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UT insert: Cirion and Eorl closure <Acathalion> [7/15 @ 20:25] (6/6)

Thank you! (No Text) <Draupne> [7/16 @ 7:44] (0/0)
Thanks, Acathalion1 (No Text) <Morwen> [7/16 @ 6:15] (0/0)
Thank you ! (No Text) <Kiskadee> [7/16 @ 4:58] (0/0)
Thanks! (No Text) <Eledhwen> [7/16 @ 4:39] (0/0)
Thank you! <Curious> [7/16 @ 3:27] (0/0)
Thank you! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 20:53] (0/0)

Limpe and Miruvor <Arador> [7/15 @ 18:19] (2/2)

I think both terms were used by elves and the Valar. <Curious> [7/16 @ 3:32] (0/0)
Not sure about Limpe, but Miruvor <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 19:28] (0/0)

Shadowfax <G> [7/15 @ 17:18] (2/38)

First, welcome! <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 19:44] (0/0)
Frequently <Watson> [7/15 @ 17:47] (2/36)

Did you ever notice how grey (or silver) seems to be Tolkien's favorite color? (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/16 @ 5:20] (5/23)

To follow up on this, what colours didn't he like? <Caleniel> [7/17 @ 1:27] (2/5)

Well, I know what hair color he didn't like!!! <Thevina Finduilas> [7/17 @ 8:08] (0/0)
Not much red, purple, orange, or brown. And black <Curious> [7/17 @ 4:57] (1/3)

There's blue in... <Caleniel> [7/17 @ 5:42] (2/2)

Perhaps the black uniforms represent <Kiskadee> [7/17 @ 10:09] (0/0)
Blue in Faramir's mother's cape worn by Eowyn. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/17 @ 7:40] (0/0)

And blue! How can anyone forget blue! (for Manwe) <woodsnake> [7/16 @ 14:50] (1/3)

Yellow and green are also <Curious> [7/16 @ 14:56] (1/2)

The Sil, "Of The Beginning of Days" <woodsnake> [7/17 @ 18:09] (1/1)

They must have used lots of bleach! (No Text) <Curious> [7/18 @ 7:00] (0/0)

Also gold / yellow, emerald / green, and white. (No Text) <Curious> [7/16 @ 9:01] (1/3)

Not really (as to gold) <Blue Wizard> [7/16 @ 17:44] (2/2)

Wow! Have to think about that one. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/17 @ 7:27] (0/0)
Ah, but golden hair, golden leaves, golden flowers, golden halls <Curious> [7/16 @ 21:09] (0/0)

Yes,and it reminds me of Yeats <Kiskadee> [7/16 @ 7:02] (2/7)

Ok, Yeats/Tolkien fans, tell me... <notlost> [7/16 @ 17:13] (1/4)

I don't recall an example of that <Kiskadee> [7/16 @ 19:24] (1/3)

No, I DO see similarities--but I was hoping someone could show me my fav. Yeats image in Tolkien (No Text) <notlost> [7/16 @ 19:34] (1/2)

The closest things I found <Kiskadee> [7/16 @ 20:42] (1/1)

Thanks...I'll keep looking <notlost> [7/17 @ 9:06] (0/0)

I think they had common inspirations. <Curious> [7/16 @ 8:57] (1/1)

Not only that <Kiskadee> [7/16 @ 21:34] (0/0)

I have noticed that many of his characters have grey eyes. (No Text) <Morwen> [7/16 @ 6:14] (0/0)

But ... <Eledhwen> [7/16 @ 4:39] (2/11)

Greys and white horses <notlost> [7/16 @ 17:24] (0/0)
It might well be, but... <Watson> [7/16 @ 6:24] (1/9)

Good point <Eledhwen> [7/16 @ 7:32] (1/8)

White horses are rare <Draupne> [7/16 @ 8:43] (1/7)

Since you appear knowledgeable... <Watson> [7/16 @ 10:20] (3/6)

I can't think off any <Draupne> [7/18 @ 8:50] (0/0)
Not necessarily a breed... <Mrs. Boromir> [7/16 @ 13:40] (0/0)
I used to be crazy about horses <Caleniel> [7/16 @ 10:53] (2/3)

There are phases, and then there are PHASES <notlost> [7/16 @ 19:29] (0/0)
I skipped the "horse" phase... <Watson> [7/16 @ 11:26] (1/1)

Me too <Eledhwen> [7/16 @ 12:38] (0/0)

Dulce et Decorum Est <notlost> [7/15 @ 13:46] (6/26)

May I contribute this part of a poem? <nina_glyndwr> [7/17 @ 0:57] (1/1)

Thanks for this excerpt. The more I think about it, Tennyson and Tolkien have a lot in common! (No Text) <notlost> [7/17 @ 8:45] (0/0)

I'm coming late to this, <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 19:14] (0/0)
It is signifigant to me... <Reverend> [7/16 @ 6:56] (2/2)

Nice connections <notlost> [7/16 @ 19:52] (0/0)
I very much agree <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 18:27] (0/0)

Meep! Hey, I wrote a lengthy exposition on this poem a year ago... <Laith�liel the Sea-elf> [7/16 @ 6:11] (1/1)

Isn't it great when your English classes can help your Tolkien? :-) (No Text) <notlost> [7/16 @ 19:36] (0/0)

Here is an excellent essay on how WWI influenced Tolkien. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:29] (2/10)

Did Tolkien then possibly feel <woodsnake> [7/15 @ 17:58] (1/2)

Perhaps he felt like Frodo <Reverend> [7/17 @ 20:36] (1/1)

Then both, perhaps, because the Elves <woodsnake> [7/18 @ 14:40] (0/0)

It IS excellent. Thanks for the link! (No Text) <notlost> [7/15 @ 15:06] (1/6)

It is written by one of the Reading Room denizens, <Curious> [7/15 @ 15:34] (1/5)

I wrote that essay <Idril Celebrindal> [7/16 @ 8:38] (3/4)

It is a wonderful essay. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 18:21] (0/0)
Thanks for the great essay! <notlost> [7/16 @ 17:38] (1/1)

You're welcome! <Idril Celebrindal> [7/17 @ 6:37] (0/0)

Thanks. <Curious> [7/16 @ 8:54] (0/0)

My rather lengthy thoughts... <Silverlode> [7/15 @ 14:28] (1/6)

Ambivalence <notlost> [7/15 @ 15:33] (2/5)

Offenive vs defensive war <Silverlode> [7/15 @ 16:38] (1/1)

Um..that should be "Offensive". (No Text) <Silverlode> [7/15 @ 16:39] (0/0)

WWI was not so clear. <Curious> [7/15 @ 15:39] (2/2)

"On Fairy Stories" <notlost> [7/16 @ 17:43] (0/0)
Some modern factors contributing to "blurriness" <woodsnake> [7/15 @ 17:33] (0/0)

Radagast and the War of the Ring <Oakenshield> [7/15 @ 12:48] (4/21)

Radagast's fate is similar to Treebeard's: <Curious> [7/16 @ 8:50] (1/1)

Better than... <Watson> [7/16 @ 12:03] (0/0)

Of the five Istari/Wizards <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 20:51] (4/9)

A wild idea about Blue Wizards <Stanislaus Bocian> [7/17 @ 11:36] (2/2)

You really need to post these things .... <Reverend> [7/18 @ 5:26] (0/0)
This will take a bit of sifting, <NZ Strider> [7/17 @ 13:20] (0/0)

I blame Yavanna, really.. <PhantomS> [7/16 @ 20:41] (1/1)

Hah! You may be right! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 22:01] (0/0)

Valinor <Oakenshield> [7/16 @ 5:46] (1/1)

It didn't happen quickly <Watson> [7/16 @ 6:34] (0/0)

A friend and I have speculated... <Watson> [7/16 @ 3:07] (1/1)

I like it <Temujin> [7/16 @ 5:41] (0/0)

Some new info... <Oakenshield> [7/15 @ 14:13] (2/6)

Unfortunately, Radagast was a drunk. <Reverend> [7/15 @ 14:40] (2/3)

His addiction was far worse than drink <Kiskadee> [7/17 @ 10:32] (1/1)

You may be right. <Reverend> [7/17 @ 16:54] (0/0)

Hmm... <Oakenshield> [7/15 @ 16:03] (0/0)

Well as the friend to the flora and fauna <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:18] (1/1)

I like that! <Karen> [7/16 @ 11:43] (0/0)

Radagast didn't save Frodo, he saved Gandalf. <Curious> [7/15 @ 12:59] (1/1)

What we do know... <Watson> [7/15 @ 13:09] (0/0)

Fate of a Simaril <kingunderthemountain> [7/15 @ 11:25] (1/1)

No, but there is a resemblance. <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:38] (0/0)

How does ROTK end? (has spoilers dont open if you havent read book) <Neo_007> [7/15 @ 11:03] (13/13)

Frodo.... <Legolas'Girl> [7/16 @ 11:50] (0/0)
Ha! Ha! Funny joke, that. (No Text) <Nimrodel > [7/16 @ 5:20] (0/0)
so? <Arathorn> [7/16 @ 4:52] (0/0)
Tsk, tsk! Read it, read it! You can;t trust people on the Net anyway, we might fib! =0) (No Text) <Smokering> [7/16 @ 3:42] (0/0)
this type of post is not appropriate (No Text) <hobbitfoot> [7/15 @ 21:33] (0/0)
Oh, but I IM many avid Tolkien fans! <Heaven's Songbird> [7/15 @ 20:22] (0/0)
read the thing (No Text) <Ehtemir> [7/15 @ 19:56] (0/0)
and miss the point of the story? <Arador> [7/15 @ 18:14] (0/0)
denoument <notlost> [7/15 @ 13:27] (0/0)
The ending is extremely important <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:26] (0/0)
No way!! <Oakenshield> [7/15 @ 12:16] (0/0)
To help you read it, not to tell you <kingunderthemountain> [7/15 @ 11:33] (0/0)
If you are an avid fan, read the book!! <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:28] (0/0)

UT: Quest of Erebor -- Chance or Fate? <Idril Celebrindal> [7/15 @ 10:37] (2/4)

Yes, this has come up before. <Curious> [7/15 @ 16:54] (1/1)

The only logic... <Watson> [7/15 @ 17:59] (0/0)

I take Gandalf's words... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 15:23] (1/1)

Nicely put. <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 21:58] (0/0)

UT: Quest of Erebor -- Thorin and Bilbo <Idril Celebrindal> [7/15 @ 10:33] (5/7)

my opinions <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/16 @ 23:43] (0/0)
Tolkien always describes the Dwarves <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 21:52] (0/0)
Changes in perspective <Acathalion> [7/15 @ 20:55] (1/1)

very nice <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/16 @ 23:51] (0/0)

Tolkien retells The Hobbit from the perspective of LotR. <Curious> [7/15 @ 16:52] (0/0)
Dwarfs are cut off <Eledhwen> [7/15 @ 12:59] (1/1)

Interesting that this is one of the rare times <woodsnake> [7/15 @ 18:13] (0/0)

Flame of Udun <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/15 @ 9:49] (3/5)

I found a link for the quote I saw <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/16 @ 3:46] (0/0)
HoME, in whatever volume deals with this passage... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 17:12] (0/0)
Several translations are offered <Watson> [7/15 @ 9:54] (1/2)

Plus, it seems to function <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:58] (1/1)

Just so. (No Text) <Watson> [7/15 @ 13:10] (0/0)

A question for the experts? <Legolas'Girl> [7/15 @ 9:17] (1/3)

Celebrian was their mother <Altaira> [7/15 @ 9:23] (1/2)

thanks <Legolas'Girl> [7/15 @ 10:26] (1/1)

Yes <Altaira> [7/15 @ 10:44] (0/0)

More signs of those mysterious half-orcs. <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:35] (4/9)

How specific is the word "orc"? <Caleniel> [7/16 @ 10:27] (1/1)

Except that Treebeard says <Curious> [7/16 @ 15:00] (0/0)

Sounds like my wife's people <Temujin> [7/16 @ 5:43] (0/0)
there definitely seems to be a distinction between... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 9:38] (1/1)

As I noted below, the Nazgul fell <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:24] (0/0)

It makes sense <Altaira> [7/15 @ 9:17] (1/3)

Scary really... :-S <Legolas'Girl> [7/15 @ 9:20] (1/2)

The crowd at you local WWf event would be a good place to start. (No Text) <Reverend> [7/15 @ 9:40] (1/1)

LOL or maybe the wrestlers themselves. *shudder* (No Text) <Legolas'Girl> [7/15 @ 10:27] (0/0)

even though Tolkien's turning in his grave... <Balletrusse> [7/15 @ 7:50] (3/4)

Tolkien really didn't like allegory... <Faerie23> [7/16 @ 12:15] (0/0)
hmmmm ... <Legolas'Girl> [7/15 @ 9:12] (1/1)

um..... <BalrogMcBalrog> [7/17 @ 3:01] (0/0)

On the contrary, <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:15] (0/0)

Gimli's axe <Lamarne> [7/15 @ 4:56] (1/4)

We are not told the name of Gimli's axe. <Curious> [7/15 @ 5:07] (2/3)

Many dwarf names were secret... <Morwen> [7/15 @ 9:36] (1/1)

He also had a perfect opportunity to name it <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:13] (0/0)

thanks! <Lamarne> [7/15 @ 5:20] (0/0)

To mskochin regarding �Tolkien and the Spirit of Reaction.� <Curious> [7/15 @ 4:15] (0/0)

were orcs immortal? <krispykreme127 > [7/14 @ 18:32] (2/30)

Well, maybe. <Curious> [7/14 @ 19:41] (0/0)
No. <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:07] (1/28)

Or Yes, No, Sometimes, and It Depends. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 19:55] (2/27)

Orcs, Morgoth's Ring, and all that "redeemability" stuff (long!) <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 20:24] (3/25)

reincarnations of Orcs <Stanislaus Bocian> [7/15 @ 10:58] (4/13)

Repost - sorry for trouble <Stanislaus Bocian> [7/16 @ 11:09] (2/2)

Excellent post. <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 15:45] (0/0)
Not bad. <Reverend> [7/16 @ 12:30] (0/0)

You may want to change your defaults <Kiskadee> [7/15 @ 13:57] (0/0)
Quite agree on the main theological point <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:44] (0/0)
Can't read this. Are you using a weird color? (No Text) <Reverend> [7/15 @ 11:36] (2/7)

Hmm.. I'm reading it fine. Shall I cut-n-paste and repost it? (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:22] (1/4)

Please do. (No Text) <Curious> [7/15 @ 13:01] (1/3)

OK, hope it works. Stanislaus Bocian's Post from above <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 13:12] (1/2)

I seem to have half of it. <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:00] (1/1)

That was all I could read as well. <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 19:04] (0/0)

Me neither. Are you using spellcheck? (No Text) <Curious> [7/15 @ 12:19] (1/1)

Nope. Attn Stanislaus! <Eledhwen> [7/15 @ 13:56] (0/0)

A solution that Tolkien never tried... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 5:43] (2/5)

Well, I honestly believe that <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:54] (0/0)
Yes, that seems to be the explanation for dragons. <Curious> [7/15 @ 5:46] (1/3)

The problem is that dragons <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:33] (1/2)

Well, we do not see dragons breed. <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:23] (1/1)

The notion of asexual reproduction <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 19:11] (0/0)

I disagree with <Curious> [7/14 @ 20:57] (1/4)

Hmm... <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 23:06] (1/3)

Yes, of course we are having fun. <Curious> [7/15 @ 5:11] (1/2)

Thank you for that. I was <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 12:52] (1/1)

Well, more than a few edits, I would say. <Curious> [7/15 @ 13:28] (0/0)

I agree, except that no one <Curious> [7/14 @ 20:16] (0/0)

Is the sadness of Frodo at LOTR's end <woodsnake> [7/14 @ 18:31] (3/4)

Curious-you've made this even more sorrowful!. To all: thanks for the comments. (No Text) <woodsnake> [7/15 @ 16:56] (0/0)
I think the elves may have had an even sadder fate. <Curious> [7/14 @ 19:27] (1/1)

Aye... (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/15 @ 6:00] (0/0)

Very nice thoughts. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:20] (0/0)

For anyone considering reading UT... <woodsnake> [7/14 @ 17:58] (2/3)

Well said <Altaira> [7/15 @ 7:52] (0/0)
Now post this on Main and Movie <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:18] (1/1)

I can do that! And now I've caught up w/you guys I can also! (No Text) <woodsnake> [7/15 @ 16:59] (0/0)

What do you think... <Smokering> [7/14 @ 3:02] (10/70)

I think this thread illustrates the difficulty... <Reverend> [7/16 @ 9:57] (2/2)

Exactly...Smokering, please <DownfallenWest> [7/16 @ 15:20] (0/0)
That is the essence... <Watson> [7/16 @ 10:31] (0/0)

Okay, you want to hear from Christians on this? <Kyriel> [7/16 @ 9:12] (0/0)
Isn't it rather boring <Draupne> [7/16 @ 8:07] (1/1)

Sorry. <Smokering> [7/16 @ 16:43] (0/0)

Then, I fear that your cognative dissonance <Blue Wizard> [7/16 @ 6:36] (0/0)
I didn't realize that we are practicing discrimination on TORN <burma> [7/16 @ 5:33] (0/0)
Although... <Watson> [7/14 @ 15:50] (3/33)

Exactly <Arathorn> [7/16 @ 4:51] (0/0)
Wow! <Smokering> [7/15 @ 2:22] (2/25)

well actually in my tribe... <burma> [7/16 @ 15:22] (0/0)
Not precisely <Watson> [7/15 @ 10:25] (3/23)

*treading on eggshells* <Smokering> [7/16 @ 3:28] (9/19)

Oh, I know better than to do this, but here goes: <Blue Wizard> [7/16 @ 10:21] (1/1)

LOL! I've heard that one before. (No Text) <Smokering> [7/16 @ 16:32] (0/0)

If you're a literalist <Tampa Phil> [7/16 @ 9:32] (3/3)

Well I don't know if I'm a literalist or not, but <Smokering> [7/16 @ 21:10] (0/0)
it seems to me one can't be a literalist <Annael> [7/16 @ 14:28] (0/0)
*smiling quietly, but rather widely* (No Text) <Caleniel> [7/16 @ 10:16] (0/0)

You're also <Draupne> [7/16 @ 8:49] (0/0)
So what do you think . . . <Annael> [7/16 @ 7:31] (0/0)
You need not explain <Watson> [7/16 @ 6:41] (0/0)
Smokering - your post depresses me <Hengist> [7/16 @ 6:19] (1/2)

Hang on. <Smokering> [7/16 @ 16:46] (1/1)

Hmm I dont object to your <Hengist> [7/17 @ 2:46] (0/0)

Hmmm <Arathorn> [7/16 @ 5:34] (0/0)
Now I've always wondered... <Nimrodel > [7/16 @ 5:18] (2/4)

Okay... <Smokering> [7/16 @ 16:38] (1/1)

I feel I must inform you... <Nimrodel > [7/16 @ 17:53] (0/0)

In grad school there was.. <Kiskadee> [7/16 @ 5:38] (1/1)

Well, as my husband always says... <Nimrodel > [7/16 @ 6:14] (0/0)

consider yourself flamed (No Text) <burma> [7/16 @ 4:52] (0/0)

Much my own view also <Caleniel> [7/16 @ 1:51] (1/1)

Indeed... <Sangarunya> [7/16 @ 5:18] (0/0)

Yep, that's pretty much how I see it too. (No Text) <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:07] (0/0)

This is getting far afield, but <Curious> [7/14 @ 19:22] (1/5)

No... <Watson> [7/14 @ 20:06] (1/4)

Cool, although my beliefs are not too much different, <Curious> [7/14 @ 20:28] (1/3)

The teachings... <Watson> [7/15 @ 4:25] (1/2)

Well <Curious> [7/15 @ 4:41] (1/1)

I was not... <Watson> [7/15 @ 9:57] (0/0)

Further thought on this... <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 14:55] (1/3)

No, I do think... <Smokering> [7/14 @ 15:36] (1/2)

Genesis 3:22-24. <Curious> [7/14 @ 19:09] (1/1)

So I would see it also. Thank you <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:16] (0/0)

If you read the Silmarillion closely, <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:26] (0/0)
Is death a curse? <Eledhwen> [7/14 @ 9:04] (3/20)

Immortality's Curse <Lotheriel> [7/14 @ 13:45] (0/0)
The curse is immortality <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:36] (2/4)

No, not immortality, but false immortality, is a curse <Blue Wizard> [7/16 @ 6:46] (1/2)

Well, immortality is a curse <NZ Strider> [7/16 @ 15:53] (1/1)

I agree <Blue Wizard> [7/16 @ 16:34] (0/0)

Agreement with you and Lotheriel <Altaira> [7/15 @ 7:37] (0/0)

No contradiction. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 9:52] (2/13)

Can you point me towards that bit? <Eledhwen> [7/15 @ 5:02] (2/7)

Oh. <Smokering> [7/15 @ 16:59] (0/0)
Do you mean the Ainulindale? <Eledhwen> [7/15 @ 5:07] (1/5)

"Letters of JRR Tolkien" is what is needed here... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 7:30] (1/4)

Got that too <Eledhwen> [7/15 @ 7:38] (1/3)

Letter 142. <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:51] (1/2)

Thanks, Curious. <Eledhwen> [7/15 @ 12:55] (1/1)

This might help with the Letters. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:25] (0/0)

"Morgoth's Ring" seems to be <woodsnake> [7/14 @ 14:29] (1/4)

"Morgoth's Ring" contains mostly material... <Reverend> [7/14 @ 17:23] (2/3)

I'm with you, Reverend <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:13] (0/0)
Much thanks. Sounds intriguing! (No Text) <woodsnake> [7/14 @ 17:43] (1/1)

If you enjoy the most abstract posts here <Curious> [7/14 @ 18:45] (0/0)

This is treated at length in "Morgoth's Ring" <Reverend> [7/14 @ 4:44] (1/1)

My, what a long thread! (No Text) <Ugly Troll> [7/17 @ 3:23] (0/0)

Aragorn <Caitie-the-Slightly-Ecru> [7/13 @ 18:49] (5/16)

And Gandalf had a temper and Frodo was timid. <Curious> [7/14 @ 8:45] (2/2)

And don't forget... <notlost> [7/15 @ 8:17] (0/0)
Well-put. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:19] (0/0)

He had flaws? I'm getting one! <Smokering> [7/14 @ 3:31] (1/2)

Actually, he did have a sense of humor. <Morwen> [7/14 @ 8:37] (1/1)

So true. A relief indeed! (No Text) <Smokering> [7/15 @ 2:56] (0/0)

Hmm...� Our list of flaws grows thin! <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 19:33] (1/3)

The triviality of the list... <Reverend> [7/13 @ 20:05] (2/2)

Ah, but... similar backgrounds? <Caleniel> [7/16 @ 1:27] (0/0)
Yes. <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:15] (0/0)

Like Hamlet... <notlost> [7/13 @ 19:32] (1/1)

There are several passages <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:39] (0/0)

Perhaps a whiff of bitterness... <Reverend> [7/13 @ 19:05] (2/3)

He was only human! But, yes, not necessarily 100% angel of light 100% of the time. Good post, anyway. (No Text) <Legolas'Girl> [7/15 @ 10:33] (0/0)
You've run two quotes together! <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 19:19] (1/1)

Okay, make it more than a whiff then. (No Text) <Reverend> [7/13 @ 19:26] (0/0)

lothiriel -ummm... who? <orpheus> [7/13 @ 10:20] (1/2)

Imrahil <Eledhwen> [7/13 @ 10:55] (1/1)

thanks <orpheus> [7/13 @ 15:16] (0/0)

The Sil <Arwen_Undomiel> [7/13 @ 9:54] (4/4)

It gets even better. <sherlock> [7/14 @ 10:00] (0/0)
The bad news is... <Altaira> [7/13 @ 20:03] (0/0)
Yeah -- join the club! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 16:35] (0/0)
Yep. Although you have lots more pleasure ahead of you. (No Text) <Curious> [7/13 @ 10:12] (0/0)

the edain = the numenoreans? (No Text) <quipy> [7/13 @ 8:19] (1/4)

Not precisely. <Reverend> [7/13 @ 9:05] (1/3)

Yepp..you can read more on the D�nedain here on my site if you wish :) (No Text - Link Inside) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/13 @ 9:39] (1/2)

cool. <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/13 @ 14:05] (1/1)

Thanks :) Strictly amature, but fun writing it (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/13 @ 15:10] (0/0)

The sequel that Tolkien was writing <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/13 @ 5:51] (2/15)

Every time I ask a question.... <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/13 @ 9:10] (4/12)

Thanks for the advice yall...:) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/14 @ 3:14] (0/0)
Pallando's warning is well-taken; i.e. first <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 16:32] (0/0)
I might warn you otherwise ... <Pallando-II> [7/13 @ 14:53] (2/8)

book of lost tales 2 had great stuff <Ehtemir> [7/13 @ 20:51] (1/1)

That is a wonderful story. <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 0:06] (0/0)

You may overstate your case a bit! <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 16:44] (1/5)

A good point... <Pallando-II> [7/13 @ 18:43] (1/4)

Personally, I like mining for gold... <Reverend> [7/13 @ 19:30] (1/3)

So do I. <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 19:39] (1/2)

Do you care to elaborate on those tidbits? (No Text) <Curious> [7/15 @ 3:20] (1/1)

It will have to wait <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 20:56] (0/0)

Oh, it is <Eledhwen> [7/13 @ 10:53] (0/0)

The New Shadow <Eledhwen> [7/13 @ 8:13] (1/1)

That is, Tolkien disdained storytelling for the sake of the story. <Reverend> [7/13 @ 9:01] (0/0)

Question (Story Spoiler) <Tary�v�wen > [7/12 @ 21:58] (2/11)

I am married to one of them. <Reverend> [7/13 @ 3:19] (1/8)

So she has made the choice of Luthien? <Curious> [7/13 @ 4:57] (1/7)

Who said I was mortal? (No Text) <Reverend> [7/13 @ 8:30] (3/6)

Does this mean you have pointy ears? (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 19:42] (1/3)

Yes. And although Tolkien ...... <Reverend> [7/14 @ 2:11] (1/2)

What about ho....Never mind.� I don't want to know. (No Text) <Lotheriel> [7/14 @ 14:12] (1/1)

I was about to ask about clo... but decided I didn't want to know either (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 15:27] (0/0)

LOL (No Text) <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/13 @ 17:06] (0/0)
Sheesh. (No Text) <Pallando-II> [7/13 @ 15:33] (0/0)

Nothing <Eledhwen> [7/13 @ 1:26] (1/1)

Plus, Tolkien writes that Aragorn's son Eldarion <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 16:23] (0/0)

Ok I'm confused, Are Valinor, The Undying Lands and The Gray Havens and all that the same place? <�Angelica�> [7/12 @ 21:38] (4/4)

..... (No Text) <Draupne> [7/16 @ 8:37] (0/0)
Here is a map showing the Grey Havens just west of the Shire. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/13 @ 4:52] (0/0)
Noo, <EldersisofMerry> [7/12 @ 21:47] (0/0)
greetings, the Grey Havens lie in NW ME whereas the other two are in Aman. <Karmul> [7/12 @ 21:42] (0/0)

Smaug's limbs? <Keriway> [7/12 @ 15:45] (4/9)

Tolkien's illustrations of dragons <Leto> [7/14 @ 6:50] (2/2)

Tolkien distinguishes between three basic types of dragons <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:24] (0/0)
Thanks everyone! (No Text) <Keriway> [7/14 @ 7:41] (0/0)

"[U]nder all his limbs . . . lay countless piles of precious things." <Curious> [7/12 @ 21:20] (0/0)
I think this is the definition of "worm" Tolkien was using. <Curious> [7/12 @ 21:04] (0/0)
It's common in legends for dragons to be called 'worms'. <Ataahua> [7/12 @ 16:52] (1/3)

I disagree with you. Dragons from the Orient to the Celtic Dragons were not considered worms... <Karmul> [7/12 @ 21:47] (1/2)

Tolkien used an archaic definition (see above). (No Text) <Curious> [7/13 @ 4:55] (1/1)

Thanks Curious. (No Text) <Karmul> [7/13 @ 18:34] (0/0)

That stone from The Hobbit... <Keriway> [7/12 @ 15:37] (2/5)

*hits head against desk* I meant Thorin, not Gloin. (No Text) <Keriway> [7/12 @ 16:13] (0/0)
the arkenstone (Story Spoiler) <Ehtemir> [7/12 @ 15:40] (1/3)

I would also add <Altaira> [7/12 @ 18:50] (2/2)

Would you say that it's similar to a White Opal? (No Text) <Keriway> [7/14 @ 7:43] (0/0)
Interesting! <Karen> [7/13 @ 20:44] (0/0)

The History of Middle-Earth <Kwisatz()Haderach> [7/12 @ 15:16] (4/4)

The volumes of HoME vary a great deal <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 19:22] (0/0)
If you've read The Sil <Altaira> [7/12 @ 19:00] (0/0)
And The Tolkien Reader. (No Text) <Curious> [7/12 @ 16:16] (0/0)
unfinished tales (No Text) <Ehtemir> [7/12 @ 15:37] (0/0)

Middle-Earth words pronouncements <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/12 @ 13:05] (5/7)

Slavic languages are also similar in pronunciation! (No Text) <Earendil The Mariner> [7/15 @ 15:43] (1/1)

We native speakers of English seem <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 19:14] (0/0)

You do feel very lucky to be Scandinavian when reading LOTR <Tauriel> [7/15 @ 4:56] (0/0)
beeing a native lithuanian speaker also helps! (No Text) <LillyHill> [7/13 @ 6:37] (0/0)
I'm slowly getting there <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 19:25] (1/1)

I'm swedish :) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/13 @ 5:37] (0/0)

It was kind of funny <Mellaithien> [7/12 @ 13:49] (0/0)

What should I read next? <Blindleader> [7/12 @ 11:33] (4/5)

That's the path I took, but I'm no expert... <Eirhren> [7/12 @ 20:06] (0/0)
You lucky dog you! <Altaira> [7/12 @ 18:38] (0/0)
I would recommend as you said... <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/12 @ 13:08] (0/0)
Don't forget The Tolkien Reader! (No Text) <Curious> [7/12 @ 11:52] (1/1)

I'm so glad you keep bringing that up, because it's my second favorite. (No Text) <Karen> [7/13 @ 12:49] (0/0)

Beowulf <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/12 @ 10:14] (1/3)

Hehe...I hope you guys didn't mind this :) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/13 @ 5:39] (1/2)

No-one minded; but difficult to respond to. But here's a response: <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 18:10] (1/1)

Trans.: <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 19:27] (0/0)

Gollum and Aging <notlost> [7/12 @ 9:35] (5/9)

If I may reprise one the Reverend's lines, <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 19:32] (0/0)
Maybe we could add "revenge" <woodsnake> [7/12 @ 15:10] (0/0)
*does a Keanu Reeves impersonation* <Peter_Jenkins> [7/12 @ 12:36] (0/0)
I personally believe Gollum was kept alive by his obsession. <Curious> [7/12 @ 10:32] (1/3)

A relevant quote. <Curious> [7/12 @ 20:06] (1/2)

Another relevant quote (regarding Bilbo). <Curious> [7/13 @ 4:48] (1/1)

Yet another relevant quote. <Curious> [7/13 @ 5:45] (0/0)

A matter of time... <sundering_c> [7/12 @ 9:47] (1/1)

Probably because... (spoiler) <Legolas'Girl> [7/12 @ 10:05] (0/0)

how exactly do you pronounce Eowyn? <krispykreme127 > [7/11 @ 21:07] (6/16)

Curious' second post gives the right guide, though, remember, <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 18:57] (0/0)
Think of all the people... <sundering_c> [7/12 @ 9:53] (2/4)

and the embarrassment of hyper-correcting... <notlost> [7/12 @ 11:12] (0/0)
Meenas Teerith, not My-nas Tirith. (No Text) <Curious> [7/12 @ 10:17] (2/2)

Minas Tirith is the hardest for me. <Uitlander> [7/12 @ 12:22] (0/0)
Thats correct. My-nas is more English......Mee-nas is more Scandinavian. :) (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/12 @ 10:23] (0/0)

i know... <EmperorRinger> [7/12 @ 8:15] (0/0)
Alternatively, �o = ay - o (short o like in pot). (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/12 @ 5:52] (0/0)
I always thought it was 'Ayowin', more or less. I'm probably wrong though. (No Text) <Smokering> [7/12 @ 2:50] (0/0)
Approximately 'earw'in.' (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/11 @ 21:11] (1/6)

Oddly enough ... <Eledhwen> [7/12 @ 1:09] (1/5)

Well, you can hear Tolkien pronounce "Eomer" <Silverlode> [7/12 @ 1:57] (1/4)

Too bad Tolkien... <Watson> [7/12 @ 5:29] (1/3)

McKellen... <sundering_c> [7/12 @ 9:50] (2/2)

Interesting... <Watson> [7/12 @ 18:52] (0/0)
thanks guys! <krispykreme127 > [7/12 @ 10:21] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - Elendil's tomb <Acathalion> [7/11 @ 19:45] (4/4)

Brief additional point <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 19:00] (0/0)
More thoughts <Altaira> [7/12 @ 10:08] (0/0)
Some thoughts <Kiskadee> [7/12 @ 9:29] (0/0)
Blame Isildur <Eledhwen> [7/12 @ 1:14] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - Elendil's badge <Acathalion> [7/11 @ 19:06] (3/3)

Alphabetic scripts that don't have actual vowel signs <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 18:52] (0/0)
What I found interesting <Altaira> [7/12 @ 9:53] (0/0)
Hmm, do you mean heiroglyphs, or hieratic, <Ataahua> [7/11 @ 21:12] (0/0)

Repost from Main: Arne and the Troll <Karen> [7/11 @ 18:38] (5/6)

Thanks, all! Arne was a real person... <Karen> [7/13 @ 12:47] (0/0)
That's beautiful! <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 18:23] (0/0)
Very good, Karen! <Morwen> [7/12 @ 9:13] (0/0)
LOL! That was great Karen! <Altaira> [7/12 @ 8:56] (0/0)
Hehe, poor troll! <Caleniel> [7/12 @ 3:43] (1/1)

Luckily for me, my grad school days are long over. <Karen> [7/12 @ 14:09] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - noble Cirion <Acathalion> [7/11 @ 18:25] (3/3)

Brief additional point <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 18:38] (0/0)
Noble was appropriate to the story <Altaira> [7/12 @ 9:37] (0/0)
A Steward and not a king <Eledhwen> [7/12 @ 1:11] (0/0)

What of the Entwives? <B.J.C. Thomas> [7/11 @ 18:14] (1/1)

Here is a good essay on that subject. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/11 @ 21:04] (0/0)

Very convoluted ramble about Elves, Men, trees, Ents and so forth... <Smokering> [7/11 @ 15:42] (5/7)

This is something I have been pondering. <Curious> [7/12 @ 9:13] (0/0)
Depends on which trees you cut down <Temujin> [7/12 @ 7:52] (0/0)
Hunting <Caleniel> [7/12 @ 4:36] (1/1)

Eh, 'stag', not 'steed'... typo... (No Text) <Caleniel> [7/12 @ 4:51] (0/0)

Also remember that the Ents... <Watson> [7/11 @ 18:20] (1/1)

I'm impressed. <Olorin of the West> [7/12 @ 6:36] (0/0)

It depends. <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:52] (0/0)

What are the two towers <blr155> [7/11 @ 12:36] (3/6)

I've only read a couple of times but heres my impressions <StormCrowTheGrey> [7/12 @ 2:53] (1/3)

I don't think Sauron would have invited orcs to his party. ;) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/12 @ 6:44] (1/2)

Bit of a boring party with just the Nazgul and the big guy though (No Text) <StormCrowTheGrey> [7/12 @ 7:05] (1/1)

Well there would be all his prisoners. <Curious> [7/13 @ 5:48] (0/0)

Here's a good essay, with picture. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/11 @ 14:11] (0/0)
Most people think Barad Dur. (This is a FAQ. I agree he leaves it kind of vague.) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/11 @ 13:33] (0/0)

The Ring's effect on Hobbit-people <hipman> [7/11 @ 10:47] (1/9)

137 years? <Eledhwen> [7/11 @ 10:55] (2/8)

Sauron's search also mattered. <Curious> [7/11 @ 11:58] (2/2)

That's what Ebert said... <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/12 @ 12:44] (0/0)
Perhaps we'll see more <Eledhwen> [7/11 @ 14:04] (0/0)

Plus Bilbo isn't really tested before <Draupne> [7/11 @ 11:48] (1/4)

Nor did Bilbo or even Gollum know anything about the Ring, <woodsnake> [7/11 @ 18:47] (1/3)

Yes--in Moria <notlost> [7/12 @ 11:16] (1/2)

Yah! And his perception of people <woodsnake> [7/12 @ 16:19] (1/1)

I think it amplifies... <notlost> [7/12 @ 19:16] (0/0)

Does Tolkien equate Evil with technology and modernity? <Curious> [7/11 @ 9:08] (7/17)

Yes; and also, let's follow Sam's <woodsnake> [7/12 @ 16:10] (1/2)

Reminds me <notlost> [7/12 @ 19:24] (1/1)

Very nice poem, notlost, and reminds <woodsnake> [7/13 @ 17:19] (0/0)

Very interesting post <Caleniel> [7/12 @ 6:11] (2/3)

As with magic, that seem to be a distinction <Curious> [7/12 @ 9:18] (0/0)
Technologies vs. art <notlost> [7/12 @ 7:11] (1/1)

Tolkien did seems to have an affinity for the Arts and Crafts movement. (No Text) <Curious> [7/12 @ 10:22] (0/0)

technology and humanism <notlost> [7/11 @ 18:50] (0/0)
This requires a long well-thought out response, <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:45] (0/0)
Great. May I repost this? (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/11 @ 11:48] (1/2)

Sure. Where? <Curious> [7/11 @ 12:00] (1/1)

Usenet news:alt.fan.tolkien (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/11 @ 13:27] (0/0)

It seems to me... <Watson> [7/11 @ 9:39] (1/1)

Tolkien and the Spirit of Reaction <mskochin> [7/13 @ 12:02] (0/0)

Tolkien's problem with modernity isn't moral, it's asthetic. <Reverend> [7/11 @ 9:18] (1/2)

Also true <Watson> [7/11 @ 9:41] (1/1)

Absolutely--which would suggest <notlost> [7/11 @ 19:16] (0/0)

Ents <Vala Hwesta> [7/11 @ 3:14] (6/12)

They *are* hard to picture <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:41] (0/0)
Remember Gumby? <joannaspring> [7/11 @ 8:27] (2/2)

yes...Gumby <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/14 @ 17:11] (0/0)
That's a good description, actually... <Uitlander> [7/11 @ 10:09] (0/0)

Well, anyone play online computer games? <TheNine> [7/11 @ 7:31] (2/3)

Oh yes! <FingonOfPittsburgh> [7/11 @ 8:13] (1/1)

Oh, that's right! <TheNine> [7/11 @ 8:45] (0/0)

Sounds great! Have a link? (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/11 @ 7:54] (0/0)

I know it's silly but... <Karen> [7/11 @ 6:24] (0/0)
I find it hard to picture ents. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/11 @ 6:12] (1/1)

They certainly are the strangest of Tolkien's creatures. <Curious> [7/11 @ 6:20] (0/0)

I pretty much went by Tolkien's description. <Curious> [7/11 @ 4:00] (0/0)

I am wondering about <Narin Redpike> [7/10 @ 18:27] (1/5)

Well, he's met <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 18:33] (2/4)

And the Rohirrim (briefly) <Ataahua> [7/10 @ 19:28] (0/0)
I overlooked Lothlorien <Narin Redpike> [7/10 @ 19:10] (1/2)

Well, yes, they knew *of* Hobbits' existence <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 20:22] (1/1)

I understand <Narin Redpike> [7/10 @ 21:48] (0/0)

Ancrene Wisse & Hali Meidhhad; Silvan and Sindarin Elves' Speech <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 18:26] (1/2)

My guess about Sindarin in Mirkwood <Eledhwen> [7/11 @ 1:13] (1/1)

Yes, that's how I would see it too. Thanks. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:22] (0/0)

Tolkien's "Eschatology" <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 18:08] (6/9)

WOW what an absolutely wonderful post (do you do any work at all ;-) I'm still chew over "Do Balrogs have wings" (No Text) <StormCrowTheGrey> [7/12 @ 3:02] (0/0)
Here it is <Acathalion> [7/11 @ 19:21] (2/3)

Thanks <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 18:25] (0/0)
How about Melkor?!? (No Text) <Curious> [7/11 @ 19:47] (1/1)

I guess it comes down to repentance (No Text) <Acathalion> [7/11 @ 19:55] (0/0)

Thanks everybody. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:21] (0/0)
Another Treebeard one <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 21:19] (0/0)
"Morgoth's Ring" also contains several references to 'Arda Healed'... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 18:53] (0/0)
Galadriel to Treebeard in "Many Partings." <Curious> [7/10 @ 18:42] (0/0)

What is the Stone of Erech? And why does Tolkien describe a technological decline? <Curious> [7/10 @ 8:52] (13/32)

not an answer, but an idea <Lothirienne> [7/11 @ 6:45] (1/1)

The difference is that in LotR <Curious> [7/11 @ 9:04] (0/0)

The decline <Caleniel> [7/11 @ 0:52] (1/1)

Here's a quote from letters <Caleniel> [7/12 @ 0:09] (0/0)

A 'higher' past is common as dirt in legendary material. <Reverend> [7/10 @ 19:50] (0/0)
Here's a good website on giant stone balls, including <Curious> [7/10 @ 18:09] (2/5)

Well, I'm no math whiz myself <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 19:29] (2/3)

I'm a math teacher and it looks OK to me. <Karen> [7/11 @ 6:20] (1/1)

A 2-meter radius is MUCH bigger than a 2-meter diameter. <Curious> [7/11 @ 6:26] (0/0)

Psst... Kiskadee <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 20:43] (0/0)

Fascinating -- and if we moderns <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 18:39] (0/0)

Another thought on the Stone (from reading Kiskadee's post) <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 18:01] (0/0)
On the "technological decline" <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:55] (1/2)

Hadrians Wall <Buckshee > [7/11 @ 4:51] (1/1)

Thanks for that; I quite agree. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:23] (0/0)

The Stone of Erech and Other Things <Lotheriel> [7/10 @ 17:21] (1/1)

"Many ingenious lovely things are gone" <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 20:47] (0/0)

Some calculations.... <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 16:36] (1/3)

I always pictured their ships as much smaller. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/10 @ 21:03] (1/2)

So did I ! Did you see this ? (No Text - Link Inside) <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 21:25] (1/1)

Particularly this. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/11 @ 4:03] (0/0)

I like this - it could explain a lot! The meteor caused the downfall of Numenor <Entmaiden> [7/10 @ 14:06] (1/3)

And just how did Isildur recover the meteor that destroyed Numenor? <Curious> [7/10 @ 15:34] (2/2)

I'm having visions of a giant catcher's mitt.... (No Text) <Kiskadee> [7/11 @ 8:46] (0/0)
I never said it had to make sense! (No Text) <Entmaiden> [7/10 @ 17:22] (0/0)

I have often wondered if <lumpkin> [7/10 @ 9:50] (1/1)

Great intuituion -- at its first appearance <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:37] (0/0)

Stone of Erech always baffled me, too. As to the other question... <Uitlander> [7/10 @ 9:47] (0/0)
I'm intrigued by Karen's theory <Thevina Finduilas> [7/10 @ 9:33] (0/0)
Just a wild guess. <Karen> [7/10 @ 9:24] (2/2)

There was in Ephesus <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:44] (0/0)
Well Turin's sword was made from meteoric iron. <Curious> [7/10 @ 9:44] (0/0)

Was Carn Dum formerly a human or elven city? <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/10 @ 8:52] (2/10)

From Appendix A (iii) <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:33] (2/4)

Well I allready knew that there were evil men there (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/11 @ 3:34] (2/2)

Sorry for being obtuse in my reply. <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 15:28] (0/0)
So I really don't understand your question. (No Text) <Curious> [7/11 @ 4:05] (0/0)

Much like the Witch-king's successor city, Minas Morgul. (No Text) <Curious> [7/10 @ 17:54] (0/0)

Merry says "The men of Carn Dum came upon us unawares" <Curious> [7/10 @ 8:59] (1/4)

Well there were Evil men..but were these the same that inhabited the city? or was it outsiders? (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/10 @ 9:04] (1/3)

Why wouldn't it be the same men? <Curious> [7/10 @ 9:17] (1/2)

Beats me...was just thinking that the city laid so close to the elves and Men.. (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/10 @ 10:28] (1/1)

It could have been a war camp that got out of control <Lotheriel> [7/10 @ 17:24] (0/0)

Hope I don't sound stupid, this may have been asked before. <The White Rider> [7/9 @ 20:48] (2/4)

Gothmog was the Witch-king's lieutenant <Curious> [7/9 @ 21:14] (2/2)

I was gonna ask about him, <EldersisofMerry> [7/10 @ 2:28] (0/0)
Interesting... <Caleniel> [7/10 @ 1:43] (0/0)

I don't think <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 20:59] (0/0)

Not really a question... <Blindleader> [7/9 @ 20:25] (4/4)

*tears in eyes* Aww. (No Text) <Smokering> [7/10 @ 3:26] (0/0)
If I hadn't already seen <EldersisofMerry> [7/10 @ 2:30] (0/0)
I know what you mean. <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 20:47] (0/0)
Ah, to be reading it for the first time again! (No Text) <Curious> [7/9 @ 20:33] (0/0)

Gandalf's comment, and Frodo & Earendil <hot water nobility> [7/9 @ 20:01] (3/6)

What I always thought <Eledhwen> [7/10 @ 0:51] (0/0)
I'd never really noticed that passage before, <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 20:36] (1/1)

Other references to Frodo's "light" could be <woodsnake> [7/10 @ 18:09] (0/0)

I might add to my point... <hot water nobility> [7/9 @ 20:26] (2/2)

Remember Glorfindel, showing himself <Curious> [7/9 @ 20:44] (0/0)
We crossed, but <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 20:39] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - Cirion's oath <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 18:39] (3/6)

It's similar to Tuor <Kiskadee> [7/11 @ 8:53] (0/0)
I think it was Eru <Altaira> [7/10 @ 12:03] (1/1)

Numenor offers the clearest example of organized religion in Tolkien <Acathalion> [7/10 @ 12:24] (0/0)

The oath <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 21:25] (1/2)

From Morgoth's Ring <Acathalion> [7/10 @ 16:42] (1/1)

Thanks for that. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:24] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - Cirion's gift <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 18:12] (5/6)

more land grants <Lothirienne> [7/10 @ 6:53] (0/0)
Reputations <Eledhwen> [7/10 @ 0:46] (0/0)
Such land grants <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 21:10] (1/1)

grant land or else <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/11 @ 22:13] (0/0)

Land grants... <Kiskadee> [7/9 @ 19:48] (0/0)
I think the answer to why he did it is in your question above <Morwen> [7/9 @ 19:41] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - In the manner of the Chronicles <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 17:59] (2/6)

"Fickle in his omniscience" is a great phrase! <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 20:55] (1/1)

I agree, from his very first writings.. <Altaira> [7/10 @ 11:38] (0/0)

Tolkien could also use that to smooth over his errors and inconsistencies. <Entmaiden> [7/9 @ 19:32] (1/3)

Tolkien's inconsistencies are to his credit <Acathalion> [7/10 @ 13:02] (2/2)

It's Ralph Waldo Emerson <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:22] (0/0)
I agree - the "tale grew in the telling" (No Text) <Entmaiden> [7/10 @ 13:52] (0/0)

Is there any maps or some nice big pictures of the Gray Havens and all that? (Story Spoiler - kinda, I guess... ROTK) <�Angelica�> [7/9 @ 14:40] (5/12)

I like this picture ( and where to find more) <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 8:32] (2/4)

Now that's purty. :) <Ataahua> [7/10 @ 15:41] (1/2)

That raises the question... <Kiskadee> [7/11 @ 8:49] (1/1)

Er, I don't *think* so, <Ataahua> [7/11 @ 14:49] (0/0)

Nice! And since it is by John Howe, <Curious> [7/10 @ 9:46] (0/0)

Oh, and spoilers are assumed in the Reading Room. (No Text) <Curious> [7/10 @ 6:22] (0/0)
Here is a map. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/9 @ 21:18] (0/0)
I think Ardalambion has an atlas section <Valgalen> [7/9 @ 18:34] (0/0)
Just by the by, <Ataahua> [7/9 @ 16:29] (1/3)

tHERE mIGHT bE pEOPLE hERE wHO sTILL hAVEN't rEAD tHAT fAR iNTO tHE bOOK! <hobbit_lover> [7/10 @ 10:24] (1/2)

Dear Hobbit Lover, <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 17:19] (1/1)

I concur and... <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/10 @ 20:01] (0/0)

Gandalf's Stewardship <Eledhwen> [7/9 @ 13:58] (7/12)

Thanks all! <Eledhwen> [7/10 @ 0:42] (0/0)
The Valaquenta offers one of my favorite <lumpkin> [7/9 @ 18:21] (1/1)

And to add the missing line... <Watson> [7/9 @ 18:27] (0/0)

I love that line <Kiskadee> [7/9 @ 16:33] (1/1)

Good distinction <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 17:37] (0/0)

To get specific: <Watson> [7/9 @ 16:06] (0/0)
Gandalf is Manwe's steward. (No Text) <Curious> [7/9 @ 14:36] (1/3)

In Middle-earth, at least <Watson> [7/9 @ 16:01] (1/2)

Actually, <Valgalen> [7/9 @ 18:29] (1/1)

He was... <Watson> [7/9 @ 19:00] (0/0)

Whichever elf ring he had - i lose track. (No Text) <Ufthak> [7/9 @ 14:19] (0/0)
Well... <kingunderthemountain> [7/9 @ 14:07] (0/0)

Shoould Denethor have crowned himself king? <cabbage'n'taters> [7/9 @ 11:10] (3/10)

Agree with Acathalion; one sidenote <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 21:35] (0/0)
I don't think he felt the need to <Entmaiden> [7/9 @ 14:45] (1/1)

Gondor's heritage <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 17:25] (0/0)

He would not have done it <Watson> [7/9 @ 11:24] (2/6)

I think that... <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/9 @ 12:39] (1/1)

good point, don't get people upset (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/9 @ 12:56] (0/0)

Yes, he was proud of his humility. ;) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/9 @ 11:51] (1/3)

That reminds me of something <Kiskadee> [7/9 @ 15:50] (1/2)

Well if Aragorn is a christ figure then Denethor is a Pharisee. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/10 @ 7:07] (1/1)

I like that. <Kiskadee> [7/10 @ 8:36] (0/0)

Is the Denethor mentioned in the Sil, anything to do with 'our' Denethor? (No Text) <Smokering> [7/9 @ 4:20] (1/4)

No. (No Text) <Curious> [7/9 @ 4:37] (1/3)

Oh. (No Text) <Smokering> [7/9 @ 4:57] (1/2)

D'oh! (No Text) <sundering_c> [7/9 @ 15:50] (1/1)

Yeah. (No Text) <Smokering> [7/10 @ 3:25] (0/0)

Time-honored Treebeard question <EldersisofMerry> [7/8 @ 20:58] (3/5)

dragons and ents <kingunderthemountain> [7/9 @ 13:59] (0/0)
There is no definitive answer. <Curious> [7/9 @ 5:32] (1/2)

As always, Curious, you're right on target <Valgalen> [7/9 @ 18:46] (1/1)

The comparison with the Dwarves <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 20:44] (0/0)

Silmarillion <Caleniel> [7/9 @ 1:34] (0/0)

Was Denethor just crazy... <Blindleader> [7/8 @ 19:28] (1/10)

You do know about the palantir, right? <Curious> [7/8 @ 19:45] (2/9)

Also, he was pretty darned good <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 16:13] (1/2)

Not enough empathy for the jury, I think. (No Text) <Curious> [7/9 @ 16:17] (1/1)

There is always that... (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 16:26] (0/0)

Yes, but that said, he was crazy. <Uitlander> [7/9 @ 8:07] (2/5)

I don't think that Denethor really lost control <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 16:24] (0/0)
Oh sure, but what he saw in the palantir was real enough. <Curious> [7/9 @ 9:20] (1/3)

Do you think the palantir influenced Denethor... <Uitlander> [7/9 @ 10:11] (2/2)

I think he believed the Ring was Gondor's only hope. <Morwen> [7/9 @ 11:10] (0/0)
He had lost hope because of what he saw <Curious> [7/9 @ 11:05] (0/0)

Beardless Elves <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 17:36] (2/4)

Hm...speaking of nothing..but where does it say that Elves have pointy ears? =) (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/8 @ 22:21] (1/1)

Here. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/9 @ 4:39] (0/0)

Christopher Tolkien says it in Unfinished Tales. <Curious> [7/8 @ 18:40] (1/1)

Thanks for that (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 18:48] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - the Hill of Awe <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 16:15] (4/11)

redwood forests and natural circles of trees <Lothirienne> [7/9 @ 6:48] (2/3)

Spoken like a local <Valgalen> [7/9 @ 18:55] (1/1)

thank you for the greetings <Lothirienne> [7/10 @ 6:40] (0/0)

I imagine Tolkien's trees as being like redwoods <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 16:55] (0/0)

I've been in several ancient forests where... <Reverend> [7/8 @ 19:45] (1/1)

I have often thought about <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 23:10] (0/0)

On my rereading of LotR I have been noticing <Curious> [7/8 @ 19:14] (1/1)

Real and literary history <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 23:40] (0/0)

It's Strider of whom Frodo says that! <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 17:15] (2/2)

D'oh! and other thoughts <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 0:36] (0/0)
Mentioning the crowd reaction works when <Curious> [7/8 @ 19:15] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - the great West road <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 15:18] (1/4)

Tolkien does imply <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 16:58] (1/3)

Here's that link. <Curious> [7/8 @ 19:09] (2/2)

Thanks. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 16:04] (0/0)
Very interesting. Thanks! (No Text) <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 20:21] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl - naming conventions <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 15:01] (2/7)

There seems to have been a real power there... <Reverend> [7/8 @ 19:34] (1/1)

Perhaps the reason for the name <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 23:47] (0/0)

Some thoughts (mostly random) <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 16:48] (1/4)

Quick addendum <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 16:52] (1/3)

Hmmm - I thought the Carolinas were named after Queen Caroline <Entmaiden> [7/9 @ 10:33] (1/2)

You scared me into looking this up! <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 16:03] (1/1)

I had Caroline in my head from a vacation to the Outer Banks when I was young <Entmaiden> [7/9 @ 19:44] (0/0)

Denethor & Boromir <kingunderthemountain> [7/8 @ 12:30] (8/23)

Elements of Boromir's personality <Uitlander> [7/9 @ 10:35] (1/3)

A movie comment, but... <Caleniel> [7/10 @ 1:17] (2/2)

I agree. I payed special attention to Boromir... <Uitlander> [7/10 @ 9:56] (0/0)
and because of that sympathetic portrayal <Lothirienne> [7/10 @ 7:04] (0/0)

I think I have more sympathy for Denethor than most people <Caleniel> [7/9 @ 1:25] (2/8)

I agree. Denethor is tragic. <Morwen> [7/9 @ 5:14] (3/5)

Just wish to add my sympathy also <Caleniel> [7/10 @ 1:26] (0/0)
My sympathies <Acathalion> [7/9 @ 18:52] (0/0)
I'm very sorry <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 16:09] (1/2)

My thanks to both of you for your kind thoughts. <Morwen> [7/9 @ 19:08] (1/1)

I'm sure it was very difficult - thanks for sharing your thoughts on Denethor <Entmaiden> [7/9 @ 19:36] (0/0)

I have always pitied Denethor... <Watson> [7/9 @ 4:55] (1/1)

Modern-day Denethors <cabbage'n'taters> [7/9 @ 8:00] (0/0)

I think it all goes back to Gandalf <Entmaiden> [7/8 @ 19:52] (1/3)

Actually.... <Watson> [7/9 @ 4:44] (1/2)

True, I had forgotten about Thorongil <Entmaiden> [7/9 @ 6:00] (1/1)

Ah, I knew there was a reference... <Watson> [7/9 @ 6:41] (0/0)

Perhaps I'm just too trusting.... <Reverend> [7/8 @ 19:29] (0/0)
my opinion <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/8 @ 17:08] (0/0)
Both River-Woman and Curious <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 15:05] (0/0)
... bearing in mind that Denethor ... <River-Woman> [7/8 @ 13:14] (1/1)

Gandalf did say to Pippin that <Curious> [7/8 @ 18:28] (0/0)

Yes, why did Denethor like Boromir so much?� Not <Curious> [7/8 @ 12:58] (0/0)

UT: The Quest of Erebor -- The story behind The Hobbit <Idril Celebrindal> [7/8 @ 8:30] (2/7)

I never <Eruviell> [7/8 @ 15:01] (0/0)
Idril <Altaira> [7/8 @ 9:44] (2/5)

Sorry! <Idril Celebrindal> [7/9 @ 7:16] (1/1)

Well, look at it this way <Altaira> [7/9 @ 17:26] (0/0)

hey, I can wait, but... <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/8 @ 17:22] (1/2)

(Sorry to go "psst!" all the time...) <Caleniel> [7/9 @ 0:48] (1/1)

no problem with the "pssts" <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/9 @ 12:26] (0/0)

Eagles of Manw�, and Free Will <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/8 @ 6:32] (3/9)

In the essay to which Curious refers <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 15:00] (0/0)
The first Great Eagles may have been Maiar. <Curious> [7/8 @ 7:04] (1/6)

Well we know at least that the Mother of all spiders was a Maia..thanks for the info. (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/8 @ 7:09] (1/5)

Do we? Where does it say that Ungoliant was a Maia? (No Text) <Curious> [7/8 @ 7:17] (1/4)

Doesnt sound so impossible... <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/8 @ 7:48] (1/3)

Possibly, or possibly another enigma. (No Text) <Curious> [7/8 @ 7:52] (1/2)

Looks like it, check this out <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/8 @ 8:04] (1/1)

Nice link! (No Text) <Curious> [7/8 @ 8:24] (0/0)

It says in the Sil... <cabbage'n'taters> [7/8 @ 6:52] (0/0)

Do thunderstorms have wings . . . and skirts? <Curious> [7/8 @ 6:03] (5/10)

This gets my vote for second most intriguing subject line on TORn <Karen> [7/9 @ 7:57] (0/0)
Prof T using allusion? I think not. <Temujin> [7/9 @ 5:48] (0/0)
Perhaps so, but... <Watson> [7/8 @ 8:17] (1/4)

I certainly did not mean to pick nits. I just thought it was interesting. (No Text) <Curious> [7/8 @ 10:26] (1/3)

Fair enough, though... <Watson> [7/8 @ 10:32] (1/2)

No, it is just because I am rereading LotR. (No Text) <Curious> [7/8 @ 12:16] (1/1)

Ah, that would explain it (No Text) <Watson> [7/8 @ 14:22] (0/0)

So Now the Question is... <Lotheriel> [7/8 @ 8:13] (0/0)
Metaphorical?! <Caleniel> [7/8 @ 6:22] (1/1)

If thunderstorms can fly maybe Barogs can too. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/8 @ 6:46] (0/0)

Elven smiths <farstriker> [7/7 @ 20:39] (3/11)

I've wondered about Sting myself... <Temujin> [7/9 @ 5:54] (1/3)

Sting, like Glamdring and Orcrist, came from Gondolin. <Curious> [7/9 @ 9:25] (1/2)

Orcs may live to be VERY old <Temujin> [7/9 @ 17:59] (1/1)

Some "Orcs" may actually have been Maiar <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 21:57] (0/0)

Andruil, as Aragorn named Narsil reforged... <Reverend> [7/7 @ 21:10] (1/2)

Then why, at the beginning <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 21:21] (1/1)

Good point. Maybe Aragorn is just being lazy:P (No Text) <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/9 @ 12:56] (0/0)

i believe <Ehtemir> [7/7 @ 20:43] (1/3)

When the Elves reforge Narsil <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 20:58] (1/2)

A disagree here. <Reverend> [7/7 @ 21:13] (1/1)

Swords are often said to "flame" <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 21:23] (0/0)

Oilima Markiya -- a "Middle-earth" poem in The Monsters and the Critics <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 17:16] (6/11)

Beautiful <Eledhwen> [7/8 @ 5:26] (0/0)
Beautiful, thank you. <Caleniel> [7/8 @ 0:48] (1/1)

Tolkien's Academic Writings <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 17:41] (0/0)

Saving this for later... <notlost> [7/7 @ 20:04] (0/0)
Hauntingly beautiful and sad <Altaira> [7/7 @ 18:31] (1/2)

Now that you and Watson <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 19:17] (1/1)

He begins and ends... <Watson> [7/7 @ 20:00] (0/0)

Thanks for posting that, NZ. <Morwen> [7/7 @ 18:18] (0/0)
Fascinating poem <Watson> [7/7 @ 18:03] (1/2)

I'm not sure <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 18:18] (1/1)

Perhaps not, but <Watson> [7/7 @ 18:28] (0/0)

Veni Vene Vici� <Squatamala> [7/7 @ 15:47] (3/18)

Watson beat me... <Celandine Brandybuck> [7/7 @ 21:36] (0/0)
Pedantic Latinist chiming in: Veni, *vidi*, vici. <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 16:45] (2/15)

Weni, wene, wici? I read somewhere <Curious> [7/8 @ 7:14] (2/5)

Here you go <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 14:49] (2/3)

And speaking of John Sobieski as we were last week: <Curious> [7/8 @ 18:10] (1/1)

And very correct he was, no doubt. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 18:37] (0/0)

Or is that the Watican! (No Text) <Curious> [7/8 @ 18:07] (0/0)

Yes <Watson> [7/8 @ 8:19] (0/0)

You beat me to it <notlost> [7/7 @ 17:56] (2/8)

Stulta vitare non potes <Watson> [7/7 @ 18:30] (2/6)

um <Ehtemir> [7/7 @ 20:40] (1/4)

Here you go <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 20:55] (1/3)

Colloquially translated to <Watson> [7/8 @ 6:00] (1/2)

Oh dear. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 14:51] (1/1)

That's my feeling, too :) (No Text) <Watson> [7/8 @ 18:17] (0/0)

Another good one! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 18:34] (0/0)

Hah! Excellent! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 18:10] (0/0)

Et Earello... <Watson> [7/7 @ 16:18] (0/0)

Can I beat the time-travel dead horse one more time? <Entmaiden> [7/7 @ 13:57] (3/4)

Yes, the speaker tended to get some of his time frames mixed up <Entmaiden> [7/7 @ 15:40] (0/0)
True, and interesting. <Ufthak> [7/7 @ 15:33] (1/1)

I wouldn't exactly call <Arador> [7/7 @ 20:33] (0/0)

Cool reference! And interesting. <Curious> [7/7 @ 15:17] (0/0)

Tol Erresa *small story spoiler* <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/7 @ 2:39] (2/6)

In Letter 297, <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 16:50] (1/3)

Yes, there is that reference... <Watson> [7/7 @ 16:57] (2/2)

Well...I can only say that if Gimli <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/8 @ 4:31] (0/0)
Very curious for a Hobbit...Most unnatural! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 17:11] (0/0)

There is... <Watson> [7/7 @ 5:22] (1/1)

I seem to recall at the same time... <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/7 @ 13:04] (0/0)

of tuor and voronwe <quipy> [7/6 @ 19:58] (1/1)

I don't really know the answer <Morwen> [7/6 @ 22:21] (0/0)

Cirdan the Shipwright <cubbyphan> [7/6 @ 18:28] (5/21)

stress? <Acathalion> [7/7 @ 20:08] (1/2)

This sounds like an excellent theory to me <Caleniel> [7/8 @ 0:22] (1/1)

Hey, thanks! (No Text) <Acathalion> [7/8 @ 14:32] (0/0)

Elves do age <Blue Wizard> [7/7 @ 16:45] (0/0)
My theory is... <Reverend> [7/7 @ 2:23] (3/5)

Then would they die of old age at some time? (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/7 @ 18:08] (1/1)

No, but they could literally fade. <Curious> [7/8 @ 5:30] (0/0)

My theory too <PhantomS> [7/7 @ 6:58] (1/1)

I like that idea. <Morwen> [7/7 @ 8:14] (0/0)

I wonder: <Watson> [7/7 @ 5:23] (0/0)

Elves seem to age. <cabbage'n'taters> [7/6 @ 22:43] (0/0)
Tolkien does not explain Cirdan's beard. So <Curious> [7/6 @ 18:57] (2/9)

Interesting theory, but... <Watson> [7/6 @ 19:56] (2/7)

It is in Unfinished Tales. <Curious> [7/6 @ 20:54] (1/5)

I know about Cirdan... <Watson> [7/7 @ 5:12] (1/4)

move to a area where their distinction would not have been noticed? <Arador> [7/7 @ 11:46] (1/3)

Some place... <Watson> [7/7 @ 16:21] (1/2)

segregation? <Arador> [7/7 @ 17:23] (1/1)

Not necessarily enforced... <Watson> [7/7 @ 18:05] (0/0)

I was thinking <Arador> [7/6 @ 20:52] (0/0)

I just thought of another reason. <Curious> [7/6 @ 19:33] (0/0)

Where are the great wildfires of Middle-earth? <Curious> [7/6 @ 18:19] (9/26)

I don't have UT with me, but... <Karen> [7/8 @ 6:21] (2/6)

There were fires in France fairly recently <Kiskadee> [7/8 @ 8:07] (2/2)

You never know what you're going to learn on TORn <Karen> [7/9 @ 6:31] (0/0)
And in the eastern U.S. as well. <Curious> [7/8 @ 18:18] (0/0)

It has been a long time since they had wild forests in Europe. <Curious> [7/8 @ 7:40] (1/2)

The point of removing the dead wood <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 17:46] (1/1)

Well, there is maintenance required <Curious> [7/8 @ 18:25] (0/0)

Well there is probably no one around actively supressing forest fires either <Leto> [7/7 @ 19:20] (0/0)
Nothing new to add -- just stating my opinion <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 18:14] (0/0)
Forest fires <Auntie_Entwife> [7/7 @ 12:44] (0/0)
Awareness, Details and other stuff <Lotheriel> [7/7 @ 10:07] (0/0)
Obviously the fires burned up the animals <Reverend> [7/7 @ 2:18] (1/6)

Exactly!� How wild is Middle-earth, really? <Curious> [7/7 @ 4:21] (1/5)

Well, there be herds of Oliphaunt, somewhere down south... (No Text) <Eowynfan> [7/7 @ 5:37] (1/4)

Are there? The only ones we see are domesticated. (No Text) <Curious> [7/7 @ 6:33] (2/3)

I doubt the Haradim could breed Oliphants in captivity. (No Text) <Reverend> [7/7 @ 10:13] (1/1)

Elephants are <Draupne> [7/7 @ 11:51] (0/0)

but all domesticated animals were wild once, right? so maybe there WERE herds of Oliphaunt. (No Text) <Eowynfan> [7/7 @ 6:49] (0/0)

Distinctions and Victorian evolutionary theory <Acathalion> [7/6 @ 20:51] (0/0)
I think it much more likely... <Watson> [7/6 @ 19:58] (1/5)

Also <Altaira> [7/6 @ 20:44] (1/4)

I agree and disagree(and maybe I'm contradicting myself :S) <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/7 @ 10:27] (2/3)

Psst, Mim... <Caleniel> [7/8 @ 2:26] (1/1)

alas, <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/8 @ 17:45] (0/0)

The point at which... <Watson> [7/7 @ 16:33] (0/0)

details <notlost> [7/6 @ 19:41] (0/0)

UT The Ride of Eorl "Summary" <Draupne> [7/6 @ 9:44] (11/13)

Thanks, Draupne. Great job. What time is the fruit-fest? (No Text) <Entmaiden> [7/7 @ 13:02] (0/0)
Thank-you, Draupne. <Lotheriel> [7/7 @ 10:11] (0/0)
Thanks <notlost> [7/6 @ 19:43] (0/0)
Great job, Draupne! (No Text) <Acathalion> [7/6 @ 19:16] (0/0)
Thank you, Draupne! (No Text) <Morwen> [7/6 @ 17:42] (0/0)
Great job, Draupne <Blue Wizard> [7/6 @ 17:41] (1/1)

*throws pop-tart at Blue* (No Text) <Draupne> [7/7 @ 12:30] (0/0)

Thanks! Sorry I did not say more, but my trial and the 4th of July interfered. (No Text) <Curious> [7/6 @ 17:32] (0/0)
Thank you Draupne <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/6 @ 17:29] (0/0)
Thanks Draupne! <Altaira> [7/6 @ 16:56] (0/0)
Thanks! I'm sorry if my contributions <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 16:40] (0/0)
Blueberries? <Eledhwen> [7/6 @ 12:55] (1/1)

Blueberries <Draupne> [7/7 @ 11:38] (0/0)

UT The Ride of Eorl #5 <Draupne> [7/5 @ 8:29] (3/6)

Agree with the Reverend, but I can't withhold this <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 20:43] (0/0)
Aragorn is, of course, ... <Reverend> [7/5 @ 13:25] (2/3)

No conflict or problem <Draupne> [7/6 @ 8:52] (0/0)
you got it Rev <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/5 @ 17:43] (1/1)

Reality and poetry <Demosthenes> [7/5 @ 18:03] (0/0)

Some one is going to shut down the electricity AGAIN <Draupne> [7/5 @ 8:36] (0/0)

UT The Ride of Eorl #4 <Draupne> [7/5 @ 8:00] (4/5)

Don't forget fear <Acathalion> [7/6 @ 19:45] (0/0)
well... <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/5 @ 18:04] (0/0)
Certainly the main danger was... <Reverend> [7/5 @ 10:37] (1/1)

well put (No Text) <Ehtemir> [7/6 @ 18:37] (0/0)

I had the impression <Altaira> [7/5 @ 9:59] (0/0)

UT The ride of Eorl #3 <Draupne> [7/4 @ 5:30] (2/5)

What about the Ride of the Rohirrim? <Altaira> [7/5 @ 8:35] (0/0)
We discussed the travel schedule a couple of weeks ago. <Reverend> [7/4 @ 7:50] (1/3)

unlikely <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/4 @ 12:13] (1/2)

long rides? <Demosthenes> [7/4 @ 17:11] (1/1)

I am trying to find some statistics on this <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 0:31] (0/0)

UT The ride of Eorl #2 <Draupne> [7/4 @ 5:06] (1/7)

the Wainriders have always put me in mind of .... <Reverend> [7/4 @ 7:57] (3/6)

This is how I see it also. <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 0:36] (0/0)
logistics <Ehtemir> [7/4 @ 19:58] (1/1)

Helvet migration <Arathorn> [7/5 @ 15:29] (0/0)

good analogy <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/4 @ 12:14] (1/2)

wagons <Demosthenes> [7/4 @ 17:37] (1/1)

historical analogy <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/4 @ 18:29] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #8/The Ride of Eorl #1� (repost w/o spellcheck) <Draupne> [7/4 @ 4:15] (4/9)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [7/4 @ 18:01] (1/4)

Not all of the Kings felt that way <Lotheriel> [7/5 @ 16:59] (1/3)

superiority of Gondorians <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/5 @ 17:40] (1/2)

In Henneth Anun Faramir <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 18:13] (1/1)

very good stuff NZS <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/5 @ 18:56] (0/0)

Somewhere I read that the Eotheod didn't keep written records <Entmaiden> [7/4 @ 9:45] (0/0)
Hobbits and Rohirrim... <Reverend> [7/4 @ 4:32] (0/0)
This is interesting! <Caleniel> [7/4 @ 4:27] (1/1)

that was always my opinion. <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/4 @ 11:08] (0/0)

Wedding readings <SeeSee> [7/4 @ 1:20] (4/8)

The conversation between Faramir and Eowyn might be good. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/5 @ 21:14] (0/0)
Here are some. <Curious> [7/5 @ 8:24] (2/2)

Here is one from LotR about Beren and Luthien. <Curious> [7/7 @ 7:13] (0/0)
Beautiful. (No Text) <Telkemeniel> [7/7 @ 4:35] (0/0)

Ahem... First words that come to mind <Telkemeniel> [7/4 @ 15:32] (2/2)

I think something about true friendship. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/5 @ 21:01] (0/0)
Ha! (No Text) <Curious> [7/5 @ 8:25] (0/0)

"You've wasted a year so why wait longer." -Rosie Cotton (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/4 @ 5:16] (0/0)

Where are the great wild animal herds of Middle-earth? <Curious> [7/3 @ 21:56] (9/27)

What do you hear more about in stories? <Lotheriel> [7/5 @ 16:50] (0/0)
Hmmm... <NZ Strider> [7/4 @ 15:31] (2/13)

Deer are rare? <Lotheriel> [7/5 @ 16:48] (1/6)

That's because the highway <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 17:34] (1/5)

There are more deer now... <Kiskadee> [7/6 @ 16:08] (1/4)

There are also many more deer <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 16:20] (1/3)

Probably too late to post this-but deer live on the edge of forests <woodsnake> [7/7 @ 11:18] (1/2)

Now I'm confused... <Kiskadee> [7/7 @ 11:39] (1/1)

and to continue that story ... <Leto> [7/7 @ 19:32] (0/0)

Good arguments, but I still think <Curious> [7/5 @ 8:31] (1/5)

I agree; Tolkien clearly <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 17:37] (2/4)

The lack... <Watson> [7/6 @ 4:20] (1/1)

That was filled with information -- thanks! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 16:24] (0/0)

Those orcs may not have lived in Moria! <Curious> [7/6 @ 0:10] (1/1)

Ah; learn something every day! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 16:22] (0/0)

well... there are horses (No Text) <nina_glyndwr> [7/4 @ 15:15] (1/1)

and oliphaunts in the south <Leto> [7/7 @ 19:28] (0/0)

Birds, squirrels,umm <EldersisofMerry> [7/4 @ 13:11] (0/0)
I believe that there are vast herds out on the plains of the east. <Reverend> [7/4 @ 8:07] (0/0)
flora and fauna <Buckshee > [7/4 @ 5:19] (1/2)

Well, he spends more time on flora than fauna. :) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/4 @ 5:50] (1/1)

He spends lots of time on the fauna <Draupne> [7/5 @ 7:52] (0/0)

They could stay out of sight. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/4 @ 5:00] (0/0)
Possibly ravaged... <Watson> [7/4 @ 4:58] (1/2)

Mountain goats? <Draupne> [7/4 @ 5:10] (1/1)

We have wild elk here in Concord, California but most people never see them. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/4 @ 5:47] (0/0)

They could of course eat each other <Draupne> [7/4 @ 4:36] (0/0)

More on "Time-Travel" and modernity in the LotR <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:27] (4/27)

Charlemagne <Eledhwen> [7/4 @ 2:23] (1/1)

Yes and no <NZ Strider> [7/4 @ 16:10] (0/0)

I believe you are mixing apples and oranges. <Curious> [7/3 @ 22:25] (2/8)

Well, let's agree to disagree <NZ Strider> [7/4 @ 15:37] (1/2)

Can we agree that there are two issues? <Curious> [7/5 @ 7:53] (1/1)

All right; agreed. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 17:39] (0/0)

Isengard? <Caleniel> [7/4 @ 1:00] (1/4)

I assume you refer to Saruman's "precious machinery."� I still disagree, and here is why. <Curious> [7/4 @ 4:47] (1/3)

One item: <Watson> [7/4 @ 5:05] (1/2)

Not a cannon, I think, but a petard. As in <Curious> [7/4 @ 7:56] (1/1)

Well, that's another answer, but... <Watson> [7/4 @ 11:25] (0/0)

Great. I've often felt that Tolkien was more "modern" than his fans seem to imagine. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/3 @ 21:06] (1/5)

He is. After all, if he didn't <NZ Strider> [7/4 @ 15:45] (1/4)

Don't forget that Tolkien studied Greek, Latin, and Hebrew as well. <Curious> [7/5 @ 11:56] (1/3)

True; here's some fodder for your argument <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 17:47] (1/2)

And how about these quotes from Plato: <Curious> [7/5 @ 22:55] (1/1)

Thanks (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 16:25] (0/0)

Just to cause trouble... <Reverend> [7/3 @ 17:54] (1/9)

Very good, oh troublemaker! <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 19:01] (3/8)

despair or defiance <Arador> [7/3 @ 19:50] (2/2)

And the followers that love them... <Altaira> [7/3 @ 20:28] (0/0)
I answered <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 20:22] (0/0)

And then there's Hitler--didn't he commit suicide <woodsnake> [7/3 @ 19:46] (1/2)

I was thinking of this too, <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 20:14] (1/1)

Interesting quote <woodsnake> [7/3 @ 20:35] (0/0)

It seems to me that good fiction... <Reverend> [7/3 @ 19:35] (1/1)

Well, these spectacular suicides <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 20:01] (0/0)

Turning to Stone in daylight: The Eddaic "Alvissmal" <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:19] (0/0)

Tolkien and Appalachia (mostly for Notlost) <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:13] (1/3)

Thanks.... <notlost> [7/3 @ 17:34] (2/2)

These "stereotypes" also remind me of <woodsnake> [7/3 @ 20:15] (0/0)
You're welcome. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 19:03] (0/0)

The poem Namari� and the "ban" against Galadriel <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:10] (2/2)

Impressive work! (No Text) <Eledhwen> [7/4 @ 2:13] (0/0)
Very convincing translation and argument. Thanks for the hard work! (No Text) <notlost> [7/3 @ 17:42] (0/0)

The Ring and prophecy in Middle-Earth... (Story Spoiler) <sundering_c> [7/3 @ 14:24] (2/8)

Seems to me... <Watson> [7/3 @ 17:25] (1/3)

This is how I would see it as well <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 19:11] (2/2)

YES! I'll take cold over hot any day. <Entmaiden> [7/3 @ 19:33] (0/0)
No... <Watson> [7/3 @ 19:32] (0/0)

Did the Ring itself say that? <Ufthak> [7/3 @ 14:59] (1/3)

No, it is the Ring <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:35] (1/2)

Where <Villordsutch> [7/5 @ 3:51] (1/1)

Sorry -- just now seeing this <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 19:16] (0/0)

OT: We won our trial! (No Text) <Curious> [7/3 @ 11:16] (6/7)

Good news! Hope to see you here more often (No Text) <Entmaiden> [7/3 @ 19:34] (0/0)
Wonderful; I hope you're out celebrating but will return soon! (No Text) <notlost> [7/3 @ 17:22] (0/0)
Congratulations! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 14:58] (0/0)
Congratulations! Glad to have you back (No Text) <Morwen> [7/3 @ 13:13] (0/0)
Congratulations. (No Text) <Lotheriel> [7/3 @ 12:14] (0/0)
Congrats!! <Tauriel> [7/3 @ 11:18] (1/1)

Employment litigation. <Curious> [7/3 @ 11:22] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #8/The Ride of Eorl #1 <Draupne> [7/3 @ 9:07] (2/2)

I can't read your post either -- sorry! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:59] (0/0)
Are you using spellcheck? I am missing much of your post. (No Text) <Curious> [7/3 @ 11:21] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #7 <Draupne> [7/3 @ 9:05] (4/4)

Gondor seems to havve been remarkably sensible... <Reverend> [7/4 @ 4:25] (0/0)
My thoughts <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:57] (0/0)
It's in the job description. <Lotheriel> [7/3 @ 12:13] (0/0)
Trust in kinsmen <Eledhwen> [7/3 @ 11:02] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #6 <Draupne> [7/3 @ 9:03] (4/5)

This Faramir was very unlike his later namesake. <Reverend> [7/4 @ 4:19] (0/0)
My thoughts <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:52] (0/0)
Another disadvantage <Lotheriel> [7/3 @ 14:55] (1/1)

this is very true <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/4 @ 11:58] (0/0)

One disadvantage <Lotheriel> [7/3 @ 12:06] (0/0)

what's with ulmo and osse's disagreements? <quipy> [7/3 @ 5:06] (1/3)

Oss� is... <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/3 @ 5:22] (1/2)

"Fun" <Lotheriel> [7/3 @ 12:15] (1/1)

Everyone has his jollies, read the Silm. and you'll see that he enjoyed creating storms. (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/3 @ 12:53] (0/0)

Sauron after the Third Age *Movie Spoilers* (Story Spoiler) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/3 @ 4:39] (3/6)

According to letter 200... <Watson> [7/3 @ 7:40] (1/1)

I think the remnants of Sauron's Spirit has embedded itself in the barmaid of our local. <Ufthak> [7/3 @ 15:02] (0/0)

I'm away from my books.... <Reverend> [7/3 @ 7:35] (0/0)
He opened a coffee shop, actually <Temujin> [7/3 @ 5:42] (2/2)

Hah! In Tolkien's children's story Roverandom the evil wizard <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 15:37] (0/0)
Uhm...ok. Can I have a second opinion please! :) (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/3 @ 5:57] (0/0)

Gollum... what a queer fellow... (Story Spoiler - TTT) <Blindleader> [7/2 @ 20:26] (3/5)

OK I just finished TTT <Blindleader> [7/3 @ 9:24] (1/1)

I'm really looking forward to when <Ataahua> [7/3 @ 13:00] (0/0)

he's just crazy <Temujin> [7/3 @ 5:40] (1/1)

Temujin! <Blue Wizard> [7/3 @ 15:04] (0/0)

For me, Gollum is one of Tolkien's most delicious characters. <Ataahua> [7/2 @ 20:39] (0/0)

Was Dior (Thingol's heir) mortal? <mm's> [7/2 @ 18:53] (2/12)

This is perhaps..... <FingonOfPittsburgh> [7/2 @ 20:12] (1/3)

One interesting sidenote <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 20:25] (2/2)

I'd also like to know... <Watson> [7/3 @ 5:21] (0/0)
Eeeks! Genetics... <Caleniel> [7/3 @ 3:04] (0/0)

It was not specifically stated... <Watson> [7/2 @ 19:14] (1/7)

I was hoping someone else would know the answer, <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 19:34] (1/6)

alright, I can't resist... (warning, sacriledgeous genetics inside!) <Caleniel> [7/3 @ 3:23] (2/5)

Outstanding! - But there's another step. <Reverend> [7/3 @ 8:37] (1/2)

Ah yes! The Divine allelle! <Caleniel> [7/4 @ 0:33] (1/1)

My impression always has been that.... <Reverend> [7/4 @ 7:30] (0/0)

Great genetics lesson! <notlost> [7/3 @ 6:53] (1/1)

^_^ thanks! <mm's> [7/3 @ 9:51] (0/0)

About weaing the Ring <cubbyphan> [7/2 @ 18:48] (1/6)

This is a difficult question <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 19:05] (3/5)

Good synopsis <notlost> [7/3 @ 7:01] (0/0)
Well played, sire <Temujin> [7/3 @ 5:45] (0/0)
There is also a possibility... <Watson> [7/2 @ 19:10] (1/2)

Sam and the first use <Lothirienne> [7/2 @ 20:43] (1/1)

I think the purpose of the wearer is important <Caleniel> [7/3 @ 3:38] (0/0)

For the more learned than I... <Nianiel> [7/2 @ 16:51] (1/1)

Yes. <Reverend> [7/2 @ 17:10] (0/0)

how old were u when u first readed Lotr? (No Text) <Legolas_#_1_fan> [7/2 @ 16:03] (3/4)

Too young too remember it well. 8 years. (No Text) <Milk> [7/2 @ 17:10] (0/0)
Just last year! <Nianiel> [7/2 @ 16:50] (0/0)
Old enough <Ataahua> [7/2 @ 16:23] (1/1)

And to... <Ufthak> [7/3 @ 15:04] (0/0)

Essay, please help :) <minalth> [7/2 @ 11:46] (1/3)

i forgot to say something <minalth> [7/2 @ 12:12] (2/2)

Just a bit of advice <notlost> [7/3 @ 20:33] (0/0)
OK; here's the deal <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 18:24] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #5 <Draupne> [7/2 @ 11:09] (3/5)

feeding an army <Lothirienne> [7/3 @ 6:46] (1/1)

Good point (No Text) <Draupne> [7/3 @ 9:10] (0/0)

Hmmmmm <Lotheriel> [7/2 @ 13:00] (0/0)
whats UT ? (No Text) <moi> [7/2 @ 12:05] (1/1)

Unfinished Tales <Arador> [7/2 @ 12:17] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #4 <Draupne> [7/2 @ 10:39] (2/4)

It's not so easy <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 18:19] (0/0)
I Spy <Lotheriel> [7/2 @ 12:59] (1/2)

I think spies <Eledhwen> [7/2 @ 13:52] (1/1)

That's true enough. <Lotheriel> [7/2 @ 17:18] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #3 <Draupne> [7/2 @ 9:17] (6/19)

Tolkien and plagues <Caleniel> [7/3 @ 4:48] (1/4)

ok, not topic related, but <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/4 @ 17:43] (3/3)

Oops, got carried away listening to myself... <Caleniel> [7/5 @ 2:29] (0/0)
Interesting question! (Warning, long rant ahead!) <Caleniel> [7/5 @ 1:24] (0/0)
Interesting question... <Kiskadee> [7/4 @ 21:06] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 18:11] (0/0)
About the Men of Dale ... <Eledhwen> [7/2 @ 13:50] (0/0)
Most plauges have an animal vector. <Reverend> [7/2 @ 10:31] (2/9)

Actually, smallpox is human only <Kiskadee> [7/2 @ 12:32] (1/3)

Ah, but Smallpox is mutant cowpox... <Reverend> [7/2 @ 17:08] (2/2)

and the observations were made <Lothirienne> [7/2 @ 20:47] (0/0)
Or mutant camelpox... <Kiskadee> [7/2 @ 20:28] (0/0)

Equine encephalitis is one possibility. <Morwen> [7/2 @ 10:35] (1/4)

Other possbilities: <Blue Wizard> [7/2 @ 12:20] (2/3)

Anthrax doesn't spread that easily <Lotheriel> [7/2 @ 12:46] (1/1)

Of course <Arathorn> [7/3 @ 13:38] (0/0)

That's a good one <Kiskadee> [7/2 @ 12:34] (0/0)

Perhaps the plauge has a much more sinister and spiritual meaning in Tolkiens world. <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/2 @ 10:16] (0/0)
Where's Nenya when you need her? <Blue Wizard> [7/2 @ 9:57] (0/0)

Huan the Hound, origin and inspiration? <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/2 @ 8:14] (4/4)

There is, from memory, <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 18:14] (0/0)
well, it's certainly not cerberus <Ehtemir> [7/2 @ 18:01] (0/0)
The Hound of Baskerville? <Draupne> [7/2 @ 12:43] (0/0)
Good dog! <Idril Celebrindal> [7/2 @ 11:24] (0/0)

Hobbit I.Q. ??? <cabbage'n'taters> [7/2 @ 7:58] (2/6)

Middle England, middle earth =P maybe <f�acuivi�> [7/2 @ 15:45] (2/2)

nice point <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/5 @ 18:19] (0/0)
I live in Tolkien land... <mintymagic> [7/3 @ 6:57] (0/0)

I think Tolkien intended the hobbits to represent average people. <Morwen> [7/2 @ 10:38] (1/2)

Yes that makes sense, however.... <cabbage'n'taters> [7/2 @ 13:31] (1/1)

He is young! <Caleniel> [7/3 @ 3:43] (0/0)

Where can i get a dictionary and calendar? <mintymagic> [7/2 @ 1:50] (1/2)

The calendar... <Watson> [7/2 @ 5:13] (1/1)

ok... <mintymagic> [7/3 @ 6:48] (0/0)

Morgoth in Middle Earth? (No Text) <Ish> [7/2 @ 0:43] (1/1)

Yes indeed ... <Idril Celebrindal> [7/2 @ 7:19] (0/0)

Ungoliant <moi> [7/1 @ 21:34] (2/8)

Well...*Nianiel began in a monotonous voice...* <Nianiel> [7/2 @ 16:56] (0/0)
Shelob & Ungoliant <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 21:56] (1/6)

When you say demon, <Ataahua> [7/2 @ 16:01] (2/5)

Her origion is unspecified. <Reverend> [7/2 @ 17:17] (1/1)

True. If creepy. (No Text) <Ataahua> [7/2 @ 17:34] (0/0)

Well, a Maia gone bad, so to speak (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 17:13] (1/2)

Next TV reality show: "When Maiar Go Bad" (No Text) <Ataahua> [7/2 @ 17:35] (1/1)

That would probably be... <Watson> [7/2 @ 19:11] (0/0)

Okay, I was just reading the Hobbit, and they are several times when I think *gasp* Tolkein contradicts himself.� Are orcs and goblins the same thing?� Because I remember that on one page of the hobbit, it is talking about orcs and goblins.� Are the two different things? (No Text) <Vara> [7/1 @ 12:47] (6/9)

Everything in JRRT's world has at least 5 names! <Temujin> [7/3 @ 5:47] (0/0)
I thought he mentioned they are the same since <Arador> [7/1 @ 20:56] (0/0)
Okay, We're glad you're here in the Reading Room. Yes goblins and orcs are the same thing. There seem to be several "breeds" of orcs but it's hard to sort them out. :) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/1 @ 20:46] (0/0)
Later on I think their was an distinction between them... (Mini-Spoiler - TTT) <Blindleader> [7/1 @ 20:20] (0/0)
Okay, I was just reading the Hobbit, and they are several times when I think *gasp* Tolkein contradicts himself.� Are orcs and goblins the same thing?� Because I remember that on one page of the hobbit, it is talking about orcs and goblins.� Are the two different things? <Legolas�Green> [7/1 @ 18:57] (0/0)
The same thing <Eledhwen> [7/1 @ 12:55] (1/3)

I am sorry about the headings, but my computer won't let me post a mesage.� I can only do a subject.� Bear with me. (No Text) <Vara> [7/1 @ 13:25] (2/2)

Try this..... <notlost> [7/1 @ 20:17] (0/0)
Tell feedback about it. <Curious> [7/1 @ 14:19] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #2 <Draupne> [7/1 @ 10:57] (2/11)

"Nothing ventured, nothing gained" <Kiskadee> [7/1 @ 15:36] (1/6)

Every name in Rohan makes sense in Anglo-Saxon <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 21:21] (2/5)

The one about Grima... <Kiskadee> [7/2 @ 6:04] (0/0)
wow <Arador> [7/1 @ 22:17] (1/3)

Yeah, I realised this <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 22:32] (1/2)

thanks <Arador> [7/1 @ 23:06] (1/1)

No, it was "translated" by Tolkien into AngloSaxon <Blue Wizard> [7/2 @ 8:01] (0/0)

Gee, I always assumed that... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 15:35] (3/3)

That doesn't mean that it can't be a "joke" at the same time ;-) (No Text) <Draupne> [7/2 @ 8:41] (0/0)
Correct -- �orl in this context means "King" <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 21:14] (0/0)
Heck, (probably wrong) assumption looks pretty weak now. <Ataahua> [7/1 @ 20:35] (0/0)

UT Cirion and Eorl: The Northmen and the Wainriders #1 <Draupne> [7/1 @ 10:13] (2/7)

typical of ME/Tolkien <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/1 @ 20:48] (1/2)

Well, this same sort of thing is true <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 21:11] (1/1)

but <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/1 @ 22:11] (0/0)

Why even try to keep barbarians straight. <Reverend> [7/1 @ 10:21] (2/3)

Intellegence-its not just for intellectuals anymore. <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/1 @ 22:15] (0/0)
Agreed <Eledhwen> [7/1 @ 12:56] (1/1)

Tolkien does however claim that they were great friends <Draupne> [7/2 @ 8:48] (0/0)

UT: Cirion and Eorl and the Friendship of Gondor and Rohan: a "poll" for starters <Draupne> [7/1 @ 9:30] (10/29)

rohirrim? <Balletrusse> [7/2 @ 13:57] (0/0)
Normans <Mim the Petty Dwarf> [7/1 @ 20:54] (1/1)

And Normans are Viking descendands...tubular :) (No Text) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/2 @ 0:23] (0/0)

We had had a bit of Beowulf in school <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 19:21] (0/0)
King John III Sobieski and "Winged Horsmen" raising the Siege of Vienna! <Curious> [7/1 @ 15:03] (3/7)

Been there, seen it ;-) <Draupne> [7/2 @ 9:55] (0/0)
Thanks for the link, Curious. <Lotheriel> [7/1 @ 17:28] (1/3)

Here it is again. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/1 @ 17:39] (1/2)

Thanks again! <Lotheriel> [7/2 @ 12:19] (1/1)

Those were the Wainriders. <Curious> [7/2 @ 14:59] (0/0)

I would say Theoden's ride into the Plennor... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 15:23] (1/1)

Well the rides of Theoden and Eorl are similar, but <Curious> [7/1 @ 16:27] (0/0)

They reminded me of Vikings on Horseback <Lotheriel> [7/1 @ 14:27] (1/2)

me too - Vikings with horses instead of ships <Lothirienne> [7/1 @ 20:29] (1/1)

Sailors on Seas of� Grass... <Kiskadee> [7/2 @ 5:48] (0/0)

I would think Vikings <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/1 @ 13:34] (3/4)

I'm pretty sure they never rode to war <Draupne> [7/2 @ 9:42] (0/0)
Me too. (No Text) <Lotheriel> [7/1 @ 14:20] (0/0)
I found a VERY interesting link on Viking horses (No Text - Link Inside) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/1 @ 13:55] (1/1)

Thanks for the link! (No Text) <Kiskadee> [7/1 @ 15:49] (0/0)

Hum <Eledhwen> [7/1 @ 13:33] (0/0)
When I first met them... <Kiskadee> [7/1 @ 13:20] (0/0)
Tolkien says that he deliberately translated things... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 10:35] (1/2)

Well, personally I think it's best <Draupne> [7/1 @ 10:44] (1/1)

I first ran across the arguement... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 15:30] (0/0)

Saxons <Morwen> [7/1 @ 9:42] (1/3)

Dumb question maybe, but why <Draupne> [7/1 @ 10:14] (1/2)

Not sure. <Morwen> [7/1 @ 10:31] (1/1)

It's really annoying in a way <Draupne> [7/1 @ 11:08] (0/0)

I discovered a wonderful new old fantasy story by Howard Pyle... <Karen> [7/1 @ 7:56] (2/2)

You made me remember "Men of Iron" <Kiskadee> [7/1 @ 16:10] (0/0)
these sound right along my line, too <Balletrusse> [7/1 @ 12:04] (0/0)

What did Gandalf tell Theoden?? <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/1 @ 6:09] (5/12)

I agree with Watson, but <Curious> [7/1 @ 16:22] (1/3)

Tolkien did say... <Watson> [7/1 @ 17:48] (1/2)

an idea about the storm <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/2 @ 5:03] (1/1)

It may be the same storm, and... <Watson> [7/2 @ 7:27] (0/0)

Well, I think the part about hope lying to the East... <Morwen> [7/1 @ 9:37] (1/1)

yeah, about Aragorn... <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/1 @ 9:46] (0/0)

Quite an odd idea: <Celebear> [7/1 @ 8:41] (1/1)

but... <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/1 @ 9:06] (0/0)

He may have told him... <Watson> [7/1 @ 8:13] (1/1)

yeah that fits... <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/1 @ 9:08] (0/0)

You're as much of an expert as anyone on this. :) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/1 @ 7:19] (1/1)

No! Don't tell me that! I know there are real experts out there!! (No Text) <arrowroot son of arrowshirt> [7/1 @ 7:42] (0/0)

Tolkien and his dwarves, (along with some other stuff) <Gil-galad Of L�ndon> [7/1 @ 4:24] (2/2)

Well, we learn rather more about Dwarves <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 21:47] (0/0)
Maybe someone else has to write that. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [7/1 @ 6:01] (0/0)

gand and frodo knew of the ring? <quipy> [7/1 @ 0:35] (2/2)

Merry and Pippin knew of the ring too <Lothirienne> [7/1 @ 7:01] (0/0)
I think you've remembered things correctly. <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 0:53] (0/0)