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Gandalf and the Balrog <A man> [9/15 @ 20:27] (5/8)

He didn't know, but... <Watson> [9/16 @ 5:26] (0/0)
Yes and No <Altaira> [9/15 @ 21:14] (0/0)
1. He wasn't expecting it... <Nimrodel > [9/15 @ 20:36] (0/0)
reply <Bboy486> [9/15 @ 20:34] (0/0)
I believe... (Story Spoiler - FOTR (and possibly others)) <Celanthriel> [9/15 @ 20:30] (2/3)

Thanks, but we don't bother with spoilers here... <Nimrodel > [9/15 @ 21:31] (0/0)
i knew this would happen <Ehtemir> [9/15 @ 20:52] (1/1)

Movie and Book <A man> [9/16 @ 11:00] (0/0)

Alternate endings: What if Sauron got the ring? Gandalf did not fall in Moria? etc (No Text) <iowaboy> [9/15 @ 18:45] (3/5)

Tolkien had an alternate ending, <Curious> [9/16 @ 10:32] (1/1)

Thanks curious-- <iowaboy> [9/16 @ 15:35] (0/0)

Everybody dies. <Reverend> [9/16 @ 5:02] (1/1)

My ideas on alternate futures/endings <iowaboy> [9/16 @ 8:19] (0/0)

things would be different. (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/15 @ 20:48] (0/0)

Questions, questions, questions... <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 15:27] (4/10)

Oh good, <Reverend> [9/15 @ 16:15] (1/1)

I feel so enlightened!!! <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 16:27] (0/0)

answers, answers, and theories <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/15 @ 15:51] (1/4)

Stone giants... <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 16:05] (1/3)

Regarding giants: <Kimi> [9/15 @ 18:26] (1/2)

Believe it or not, it was... <Silverlode> [9/15 @ 22:39] (1/1)

Ah, thank you! That rings a bell. (No Text) <Kimi> [9/15 @ 22:40] (0/0)

and as for Elves... <Nimrodel > [9/15 @ 15:43] (0/0)
female dwarves, <Eruviell> [9/15 @ 15:35] (1/1)

Thanks! <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 15:44] (0/0)

Istar - Maiar - rings <Bboy486> [9/15 @ 11:41] (1/4)

Well... <Watson> [9/15 @ 12:03] (1/3)

to try and rephrase <Bboy486> [9/15 @ 12:09] (1/2)

More answers... <Silverlode> [9/15 @ 13:19] (1/1)

Also... <Watson> [9/15 @ 16:14] (0/0)

Araman <BJ> [9/15 @ 8:21] (1/2)

do you mean the helcaraxe? <Ehtemir> [9/15 @ 8:25] (1/1)

Yes, yes! Must be! <BJ> [9/15 @ 14:08] (0/0)

Ents and Entwives.... <Arwen_2 > [9/15 @ 6:21] (3/4)

I like to think... <Sangwaelen> [9/15 @ 20:14] (0/0)
Apparently Tolkien wasn't sure. <Morwen> [9/15 @ 11:48] (1/1)

Maybe it is implied that they do... <Arwen_2 > [9/16 @ 6:20] (0/0)

I don't think so.... <BJ> [9/15 @ 8:19] (0/0)

Is Ceremony out there? <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:50] (1/8)

Not to worry Curious. Inferno has it taken care of. (No Text) <Patty> [9/14 @ 19:16] (1/7)

Did you see Eowyn Shieldmaiden's <Curious> [9/15 @ 5:40] (2/6)

I'll deal with this on Monday. <Inferno> [9/15 @ 11:19] (2/3)

Question <Galathien> [9/15 @ 20:08] (1/1)

Of course <Altaira> [9/15 @ 20:25] (0/0)

OK. (No Text) <Curious> [9/15 @ 17:52] (0/0)

we wants it, we wants it!!! <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/15 @ 11:19] (1/1)

Yikes - I spoke too soon <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/15 @ 11:20] (0/0)

wierd observation... <Astaldo> [9/14 @ 18:08] (8/11)

I've always wondered... <iowaboy> [9/15 @ 18:37] (0/0)
I always thought it akin to Snow White's coffin, actually.... (don't ask why!) (No Text) <Celanthriel> [9/15 @ 10:12] (0/0)
Ah HA! <BJ> [9/15 @ 8:25] (0/0)
I note.... <Reverend> [9/15 @ 2:14] (1/3)

Yes, although... <Silverlode> [9/15 @ 13:59] (1/2)

It also says... <Astaldo> [9/15 @ 15:53] (1/1)

You might want to read.... <Reverend> [9/15 @ 16:21] (0/0)

Umm...a glass bottom boat. (No Text) <Arwen_2 > [9/14 @ 20:47] (0/0)
A ship that could withstand <quickbeam2002> [9/14 @ 19:55] (0/0)
Earendil, rocket man! <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:32] (0/0)
A symbolic one, IMHO. ;-) (No Text) <Nimrodel > [9/14 @ 18:09] (0/0)

Sauron's title of Necromancer. Anyone know its true meaning? <Bloody_Barnabas> [9/14 @ 16:36] (1/6)

A "necromancer" is, strictly, speaking someone <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 16:54] (2/5)

Necromancer, during his low-lying in mirkwood, used his "magic and conjuring" to ally mirkwood creatures with himself, right? (No Text) <Ri elwen> [9/15 @ 11:24] (0/0)
Then they are in "limbo"? <FattyLumpkin79> [9/14 @ 20:29] (1/3)

Depends on what exactly you mean <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 21:43] (1/2)

Attachment to Middle-earthly things <FattyLumpkin79> [9/14 @ 22:10] (1/1)

Addendum <FattyLumpkin79> [9/14 @ 22:25] (0/0)

Truth or Typo?? <Nimfarra_Baggins> [9/14 @ 14:51] (2/5)

It's very common for younger cousins <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 17:06] (1/1)

Unless of course you are a part of my family... <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 16:17] (0/0)

I'd say "truth in a matter of speaking" <Nimfalma Took> [9/14 @ 15:11] (2/2)

completely OT, but.... <BJ> [9/15 @ 14:24] (0/0)
Hm. That makes sense!!! (No Text) <Nimfarra_Baggins> [9/14 @ 15:17] (0/0)

do any of you believe? <S�lmari�n> [9/14 @ 14:07] (13/41)

Hmmm, no <Draupne> [9/16 @ 0:43] (0/0)
Silmarien, Tolkien said that <Kimi> [9/16 @ 0:18] (2/2)

And he also said <Blue Wizard> [9/16 @ 5:29] (0/0)
*points up* What she said. (No Text) <Ataahua> [9/16 @ 4:35] (0/0)

I don't believe in the actual existence of ME, but I do believe <Ataahua> [9/15 @ 22:48] (0/0)
I would like to but <Leto> [9/15 @ 18:14] (0/0)
I wanted to believe very, very much. <Seillib> [9/15 @ 16:24] (2/5)

I don't mean to be smart....... (Story Spoiler) <Silmaril #3> [9/15 @ 18:05] (1/1)

Not really IMHO (Story Spoiler) <Kimi> [9/15 @ 18:13] (0/0)

you love Narnia too? <Eliadora> [9/15 @ 17:24] (2/2)

Doesn't everyone? <Seillib> [9/16 @ 8:40] (0/0)
The only website I know is www.narnia.com (No Text) <Silmaril #3> [9/15 @ 18:06] (0/0)

hope... <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 15:35] (0/0)
truly believe? <Eruviell> [9/15 @ 15:31] (0/0)
purity and hope <Eliadora> [9/15 @ 13:18] (1/18)

You know... <Arwen_Undomiel> [9/15 @ 15:47] (1/17)

really? <Eliadora> [9/15 @ 17:21] (12/16)

I apologize if the Truth of the Bible offends anyone (No Text) <Eliadora> [9/16 @ 17:13] (3/4)

It definitly doesn't <Draupne> [9/17 @ 5:51] (0/0)
the Bible doesn't offend me <burma> [9/16 @ 18:37] (1/1)

oh and speaking of Bible Truth.... <burma> [9/16 @ 18:40] (0/0)

Eliadora, listen, and try to keep an open mind... <Nimrodel > [9/16 @ 17:54] (0/0)

Personally.... <Reverend> [9/16 @ 9:31] (0/0)
Tolkien's Roman Catholic faith was an integral part of his identity <Idril Celebrindal> [9/16 @ 7:29] (0/0)
one reason I love LOTR <Annael> [9/16 @ 6:17] (0/0)
Not a prayer <Blue Wizard> [9/16 @ 5:37] (0/0)
eliadora... <burma> [9/16 @ 0:11] (0/0)
This post <burma> [9/15 @ 23:44] (0/0)
Eliadora, your post was moderated by me... <Patty> [9/15 @ 20:32] (0/0)
Congratulations <Altaira> [9/15 @ 19:28] (0/0)
Excuse me, but I'm Catholic. <Nimrodel > [9/15 @ 18:32] (0/0)
*Butting in* I'd like you to consider <Kimi> [9/15 @ 18:03] (0/0)
Not the only ones by far, I'd expect <Tharangil> [9/15 @ 17:40] (0/0)

Yes <Lasselanta of Mirkwood> [9/15 @ 10:33] (1/1)

I think I believe that to <S�lmari�n> [9/16 @ 7:43] (0/0)

Part of the purpose of fairy tales is <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:10] (0/0)
I believe in Santa Claus.. <Nimrodel > [9/14 @ 18:02] (0/0)
Part of the appeal... <Loey> [9/14 @ 17:34] (1/1)

Beliefs and more beliefs <A man> [9/15 @ 20:33] (0/0)

I'd like to... <Nimfarra_Baggins> [9/14 @ 14:43] (1/1)

Re: Do you believe? <A man> [9/14 @ 17:26] (0/0)

elvish <S�lmari�n> [9/14 @ 12:17] (2/2)

Hmm...� Two questions: <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 17:20] (0/0)
I is Amin <ElfLordNick> [9/14 @ 12:52] (0/0)

Samwise is the " hero", not frodo! <S�lmari�n> [9/14 @ 11:20] (7/28)

Think Kipling <Reverend> [9/15 @ 4:56] (0/0)
Sam may be the one who is truly rewarded. <Arwen_2 > [9/14 @ 20:55] (2/6)

arwen 2, you might be right <S�lmari�n> [9/16 @ 8:03] (0/0)
Sam doesn't desire power? Did we not witness <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 7:06] (2/4)

I think the purpose.. <Eruviell> [9/15 @ 15:17] (1/1)

Yes, gardening, but that comes after <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 18:54] (0/0)

I guess reading LOTR 12 times is not enough... <Arwen_2 > [9/15 @ 9:52] (1/1)

I've read it about the same number of times, <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 19:07] (0/0)

Many people agree with you. Tolkien offers us <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 17:22] (1/2)

I think the lesson here is.... <Nimrodel > [9/14 @ 18:03] (1/1)

Yes. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 18:33] (0/0)

Tolkien was very fond of the common man, <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/14 @ 17:20] (3/6)

I dont know about the pedestal... <Eruviell> [9/15 @ 15:47] (1/1)

Yes, I agree, I just sometimes feel like <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 19:16] (0/0)

I think this fits in nicely with my theory above. (No Text) <Arwen_2 > [9/14 @ 20:57] (0/0)
You make a nice distinction <Merryk> [9/14 @ 19:14] (1/2)

Ty! Since you ask, I think Sam did grumble <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 6:49] (1/1)

Somewhere between central and north, I think. <Merryk> [9/15 @ 17:08] (0/0)

Umm... <Nimfarra_Baggins> [9/14 @ 13:06] (1/2)

nimfarra, hi! <S�lmari�n> [9/14 @ 13:11] (1/1)

hereing it that way, I guess your right. :) (No Text) <Nimfarra_Baggins> [9/14 @ 14:29] (0/0)

I always thought so but ... <Luthien's Mama> [9/14 @ 12:34] (1/2)

maybe your right <S�lmari�n> [9/14 @ 13:06] (1/1)

Well, he got <Curious> [9/14 @ 14:32] (0/0)

Tolkien agreed with you. <Curious> [9/14 @ 11:42] (2/3)

yes! <Eruviell> [9/14 @ 12:57] (1/1)

<tears> the epilogue... <jadeshadow> [9/14 @ 17:40] (0/0)

I agree <S�lmari�n> [9/14 @ 12:02] (0/0)

:) <BJ> [9/14 @ 10:00] (4/4)

Hi ;) <Galathien> [9/14 @ 20:30] (0/0)
Welcome -- please do not hesitate to ask us <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 17:23] (0/0)
hi. I tried to Sil (No Text) <Eliadora> [9/14 @ 12:22] (0/0)
*hands BJ a drink* Welcome! <Caitie-the-Slightly-Ecru> [9/14 @ 10:29] (0/0)

Q. JRR Tolkien was Christian in spirit and heart... <Nemain> [9/13 @ 22:37] (7/18)

Tolkien used the narrative material <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 18:31] (2/2)

This helps tremendously. Thankyou NZS. (No Text) <Nemain> [9/14 @ 21:43] (0/0)
How do you do this? <Merryk> [9/14 @ 19:36] (0/0)

The story is *partly* Christian, at least <Loey> [9/14 @ 17:30] (2/3)

Welcome! <Silverlode> [9/14 @ 19:54] (0/0)
Welcome, Loey! <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/14 @ 18:31] (1/1)

Thanks! <Loey> [9/14 @ 20:43] (0/0)

not THE defining factor... <Astaldo> [9/14 @ 9:53] (1/3)

A Corollary to that <Nimfalma Took> [9/14 @ 14:58] (1/2)

Nim... <Astaldo> [9/14 @ 15:05] (1/1)

Thanks :-) <Nimfalma Took> [9/14 @ 15:13] (0/0)

oh boy. <EldersisofMerry> [9/14 @ 9:52] (0/0)
If one reads... <Watson> [9/14 @ 4:59] (1/2)

Yes ... <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/14 @ 7:24] (1/1)

Incredibly incoherent that was. <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/14 @ 12:01] (0/0)

Can't we just take his word for it? (No Text) <Reverend> [9/14 @ 2:16] (0/0)
Welllll...... <Silverlode> [9/14 @ 1:08] (1/1)

A very good, clear response on a often-debated topic! And... <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/14 @ 17:36] (0/0)

Anything that made you howl with laughter? <FattyLumpkin79> [9/13 @ 22:17] (3/3)

No. I smiled often, and <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:40] (0/0)
Bilbo and Bombadil <Astaldo> [9/14 @ 9:44] (0/0)
what line (No Text) <bilbojohnstone> [9/13 @ 22:24] (0/0)

Q. Is the main theme of LOTR hope... <Nemain> [9/13 @ 21:15] (6/11)

I suggest reading "On Fairy Stories" in <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:44] (0/0)
Yes along with faith and love. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/14 @ 8:18] (1/2)

And self-sacrifice... (No Text) <Galathien> [9/14 @ 15:27] (1/1)

And death. <Silverlode> [9/14 @ 19:58] (0/0)

There are so many themes <Feagil> [9/14 @ 8:03] (0/0)
Tolkien once said.... <Reverend> [9/14 @ 2:14] (0/0)
Many lessons learned <FattyLumpkin79> [9/13 @ 22:02] (2/3)

To a certain extent, yes... <FrodoFan17> [9/14 @ 7:29] (0/0)
do you think Sam was the strongest of the three? (No Text) <Nemain> [9/13 @ 22:17] (1/1)

of the four hobbits? i believe so. <FattyLumpkin79> [9/13 @ 22:23] (0/0)

Oh wow. Picking *one* theme as the main one? <Ataahua> [9/13 @ 21:29] (0/0)

Sauron non-corporeal?? <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 20:43] (5/8)

If he had no physical form at all what would he put the ring onto ????? (No Text) <StormCrowTheGrey> [9/16 @ 6:23] (0/0)
I thought the ring was <TuathaDeDanann> [9/14 @ 19:41] (1/1)

Sauron's soul if you will <Jackstere> [9/15 @ 0:54] (0/0)

He has lost physical form before <iowaboy> [9/14 @ 5:19] (0/0)
there are some hints... <Reverend> [9/14 @ 2:24] (1/2)

and gollum mentions that he does have 9 fingers... (No Text) <huorn> [9/14 @ 15:22] (1/1)

This is the strongest (and most horrifying) hint that Sauron has taken corporeal form. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 16:59] (0/0)

Good question... <Nemain> [9/13 @ 21:25] (0/0)

Where is the book discussion schedule....list.....thing? <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/13 @ 19:23] (2/6)

We need someone of intelligence... ;) (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/14 @ 8:13] (1/2)

Well that would <Curious> [9/14 @ 11:40] (1/1)

Where are we going? (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/15 @ 5:13] (0/0)

Here's the link (No Text - Link Inside) <Morwen> [9/13 @ 19:48] (1/2)

thank you, Morwen -- I'd like to sign up for the Council of Elrond, since it's not taken <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/13 @ 19:59] (1/1)

Inferno <Altaira> [9/13 @ 20:05] (0/0)

Q. Do you think that JRRT saw technology as modern magic <Nemain> [9/13 @ 17:50] (1/2)

Hmm. He wouldn't like.... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 18:21] (1/1)

Thankyou. I am trying to work on the magic ideal. <Nemain> [9/13 @ 18:24] (0/0)

Is the lecture JRR Tokien gave "On Fairy-Stories" available on line? (No Text) <Nemain> [9/13 @ 17:45] (1/2)

Note that it really goes with "Leaf by Niggle," <Curious> [9/13 @ 18:33] (1/1)

many thanks Curious. I will look at that. (No Text) <Nemain> [9/13 @ 18:39] (0/0)

The Nazgul:Powerful or Wimps?? <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 17:42] (5/20)

I'd suggest <Nimfalma Took> [9/14 @ 15:03] (0/0)
good question :-) <Nemain> [9/13 @ 21:20] (0/0)
Tolkien explains <Curious> [9/13 @ 19:33] (3/3)

Good Question <Feagil> [9/14 @ 8:23] (0/0)
Actually <Altaira> [9/14 @ 6:11] (0/0)
Reply to Curious <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 20:18] (0/0)

The Fear Factor <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 18:10] (3/7)

I think I agree with that... <irpacynot> [9/13 @ 19:00] (1/1)

More on the Nazgul <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 19:10] (0/0)

Reply to Iowaboy <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 18:30] (2/2)

Even more... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 20:29] (0/0)
Correction <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 20:27] (0/0)

the Witch-king does... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 18:24] (1/1)

You're right about the Ford <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 19:00] (0/0)

My take... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 18:09] (2/5)

*grinning* Peter Jackson obviously <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 19:43] (1/1)

Serves him right for <Curious> [9/13 @ 19:51] (0/0)

Hmmm...(Reverend) <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 18:24] (1/2)

Sigh. <Reverend> [9/13 @ 18:30] (1/1)

<On the floor laughing!> <irpacynot> [9/13 @ 18:52] (0/0)

Slighly OT: My great Ebay purchase! <KUHNDOG81> [9/13 @ 17:33] (3/6)

Congratulations! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/14 @ 16:55] (0/0)
That is great! <Galathien> [9/14 @ 15:23] (0/0)
Curious... <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 17:55] (1/3)

Folio Society <KUHNDOG81> [9/13 @ 18:11] (1/2)

A few more questions... <Jackstere> [9/13 @ 18:26] (1/1)

answers <KUHNDOG81> [9/14 @ 6:20] (0/0)

Just something out of Carpenter's biography of Tolkien <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 16:42] (6/10)

That's so interesting! Want to read the book <Galathien> [9/15 @ 19:35] (0/0)
Inspiring <Altaira> [9/13 @ 20:15] (0/0)
that's good stuff, thanks (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/13 @ 18:45] (0/0)
truly heart wrenching... I should buy this book (No Text) <KUHNDOG81> [9/13 @ 18:20] (1/1)

Yes, do. Good book, good insights. (No Text) <Nimrodel > [9/14 @ 18:08] (0/0)

wow. Thanks NZS. Is the biography worth getting. <Nemain> [9/13 @ 17:53] (1/3)

Absolutely! Along with <RosieLass> [9/13 @ 19:17] (1/2)

thanks Rosie. One question though... <Nemain> [9/13 @ 21:29] (1/1)

As far as I know, he supported the biography. <RosieLass> [9/14 @ 10:11] (0/0)

Thanks, NZS... <notlost> [9/13 @ 17:47] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 28 � Summary. <Curious> [9/13 @ 12:53] (18/20)

Thanks for your specific point about Tolkien comparing Sam <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/14 @ 17:54] (1/1)

Keep bringing up the references <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:47] (0/0)

Thanks! Wow! Great work! (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/14 @ 8:29] (0/0)
Thanks Curious!!! Great discussion (No Text) <Galathien> [9/13 @ 22:03] (0/0)
you led a fabulous discussion <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/13 @ 19:20] (0/0)
Nice work <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 19:04] (0/0)
thanks, Curious <Entmaiden> [9/13 @ 18:26] (0/0)
awesome posts Curious. Many thanks! (No Text) <Nemain> [9/13 @ 16:24] (0/0)
Thanks for the thought-provoking questions, Curious (No Text) <The Lady of the Woods> [9/13 @ 15:20] (0/0)
No-no it can't be true! The week is too young! (No Text) <Reverend> [9/13 @ 14:32] (0/0)
Excellent....... thanks Curious!!! (No Text) <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 14:20] (0/0)
Let me go ahead and thank you even before <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 14:14] (0/0)
that was great, thanks (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/13 @ 13:48] (0/0)
Wow! <JewelTook> [9/13 @ 13:40] (0/0)
I love the way this chapter ends <sherlock> [9/13 @ 13:35] (0/0)
Thankyou. <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/13 @ 13:31] (0/0)
Curious, you and Inferno have set a high bar for the rest of us. Thanks! (No Text) <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:24] (1/1)

I'll second that ! (No Text) <Kiskadee> [9/13 @ 16:34] (0/0)

thanks! great questions & discussion! (No Text) <Froda> [9/13 @ 13:22] (0/0)
*a bit breathless* Thanks so much, Curious! <Morwen> [9/13 @ 13:06] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 27 � Frodo, Gollum & Sam. <Curious> [9/13 @ 12:02] (16/42)

Maid, mother and crone <Kimi> [9/15 @ 1:49] (1/1)

Artemis, Persephone, and Hecate? <Curious> [9/15 @ 5:17] (0/0)

A few thoughts/answers/suggestions... <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/14 @ 18:13] (1/2)

Isn't it interesting that Gollum <Curious> [9/14 @ 18:27] (1/1)

And that shows Frodo's real desire to see the good <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 7:22] (0/0)

A (No Text) <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/14 @ 17:59] (0/0)
Sorry I'm late. Quick answers on #1,3 <Galathien> [9/13 @ 21:50] (1/2)

I'm also intrigued that <Curious> [9/14 @ 4:11] (1/1)

They had to divert the Eye from Frodo... <Galathien> [9/14 @ 15:04] (0/0)

I like the second anology <Nemain> [9/13 @ 19:07] (1/1)

I think it was brilliant to <Curious> [9/14 @ 4:09] (0/0)

Or maybe it's all just a big pizza! <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 18:03] (3/4)

I would much prefer it if it was <Draupne> [9/16 @ 2:11] (0/0)
Sure, every applicable image is valid. (No Text) <Reverend> [9/13 @ 18:10] (0/0)
Um, <Curious> [9/13 @ 18:09] (1/1)

Not at all! Just felt like a little levity... (No Text) <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 18:13] (0/0)

Late answers... <Kiskadee> [9/13 @ 16:26] (1/1)

As I said somewhere <Curious> [9/14 @ 4:06] (0/0)

Maybe it's like "2001 a Nietsche Odyssey" <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 15:25] (1/1)

I vote for <Curious> [9/13 @ 16:01] (0/0)

I respectfully kick your shins. <Reverend> [9/13 @ 14:28] (3/3)

Rev.... <notlost> [9/13 @ 17:26] (0/0)
Oh dear. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 16:13] (0/0)
Even after the Fellowship <Curious> [9/13 @ 15:10] (0/0)

Some (incomplete) thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 13:28] (1/1)

Yes, I think Aragorn's tale <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:57] (0/0)

I don't really see it as a trio. <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/13 @ 13:25] (1/1)

I can see that. <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:34] (0/0)

mebbe later <Froda> [9/13 @ 13:21] (2/2)

You are right... <notlost> [9/13 @ 17:27] (0/0)
True. Sam only <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:26] (0/0)

Another thought about #1 <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:05] (1/1)

In legal circles, there is <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:23] (0/0)

The Tale grew in the telling <Morwen> [9/13 @ 12:51] (1/1)

Oh, I like <Curious> [9/13 @ 12:56] (0/0)

Three stooges/muskateers <notlost> [9/13 @ 12:46] (1/3)

I don't know about <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:15] (1/2)

Yikes, that sounds like... <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:26] (1/1)

Well, it did <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:33] (0/0)

Re #3 <Draupne> [9/13 @ 12:15] (2/2)

Agreed! <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:42] (0/0)
For those who <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:02] (0/0)

what did actually happen to the Book of Mazarbul? <SauronLover> [9/13 @ 11:31] (1/1)

in the book Gandalf gives it to Gimli (No Text) <huorn> [9/13 @ 11:43] (0/0)

How old do you think Aragorn was when he married Arwen? My guess.... <Luthien888> [9/13 @ 11:14] (2/2)

88 (No Text) <Feagil> [9/14 @ 8:34] (0/0)
he was 88 (No Text) <Dryhten> [9/13 @ 11:27] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 26 � Sam Joins Frodo. <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:47] (7/23)

Some (really belated) thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 16:12] (1/1)

I certainly don't mean <Curious> [9/14 @ 3:37] (0/0)

Let's stick with #4 <Reverend> [9/13 @ 15:24] (1/3)

So do you think <Curious> [9/13 @ 16:03] (1/2)

I don't hink he's supposed to HAVE a transformation. <Reverend> [9/13 @ 16:18] (1/1)

Personally, I think that <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 16:48] (0/0)

Gandalf's insight (Tokien's wisdom) <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:00] (1/2)

Something really crazy <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:31] (1/1)

you know... <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:36] (0/0)

Thoughts about Sam <Morwen> [9/13 @ 12:21] (1/1)

I like <Curious> [9/13 @ 12:34] (0/0)

A passing thought. <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/13 @ 11:43] (2/2)

Interesting! <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 12:22] (0/0)
I'm not so sure <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:54] (0/0)

Answers <The Lady of the Woods> [9/13 @ 11:36] (1/1)

Bilbo was the exception. <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:52] (0/0)

Hmm lets see <Hengist> [9/13 @ 11:08] (1/6)

Gandalf made his <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:31] (1/5)

That can't have been the first time Gandalf met in Sam? <Draupne> [9/13 @ 11:40] (1/4)

True. But still, <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:45] (1/3)

And perhaps because <Draupne> [9/13 @ 11:55] (1/2)

If Sam <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:59] (1/1)

Yes, and Gandalf probably knew that <Draupne> [9/13 @ 12:06] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 25 � Sam the Sneak. <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:54] (4/16)

Some thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 14:37] (1/1)

Nicely put. <Curious> [9/13 @ 15:12] (0/0)

thoughts.... <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:14] (1/4)

You're <Curious> [9/13 @ 13:52] (1/3)

I agree... <notlost> [9/13 @ 17:38] (1/2)

Gollum is <Curious> [9/14 @ 11:38] (1/1)

Gosh you two are funny! Gollum is also described with "spider-like" <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/15 @ 7:38] (0/0)

I never thought of that! <Morwen> [9/13 @ 9:19] (2/5)

I think Sam was playing dumb in this scene <Uitlander> [9/13 @ 9:38] (3/3)

Well, he <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:10] (0/0)
Good point about Merry and Pippin. <Morwen> [9/13 @ 9:53] (0/0)
Interesting! <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 9:45] (0/0)

I like that point <Curious> [9/13 @ 9:32] (0/0)

No, no, no. <Reverend> [9/13 @ 9:19] (1/2)

You are <Curious> [9/13 @ 9:25] (1/1)

And Gollum was a Hobbit ... lo those many years ago. (No Text) <Luthien's Mama> [9/13 @ 9:51] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 24 � Sam the Gardener. <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:13] (8/28)

Some thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 14:28] (1/3)

And it is Sam who later utters <Curious> [9/13 @ 15:15] (1/2)

A Elbereth Gilthoniel <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 16:23] (1/1)

Or this version: <Seillib> [9/14 @ 19:06] (0/0)

Some thoughts <Kiskadee> [9/13 @ 9:48] (1/5)

Thanks for the lawnmower <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:27] (1/4)

Yes - mow was used <Hengist> [9/13 @ 10:43] (2/3)

Good point <Kiskadee> [9/13 @ 15:35] (0/0)
Well, <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:55] (1/1)

Agree about Victorian england <Hengist> [9/13 @ 11:10] (0/0)

Ah, the home stretch. <Reverend> [9/13 @ 9:38] (2/4)

It may not <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:17] (1/2)

Well, Gulliver's Travels <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 10:21] (1/1)

Amen--he's no Yahoo. (No Text) <notlost> [9/13 @ 13:23] (0/0)

OT: Chamber pots in fairy-stories ... <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 9:47] (0/0)

*deep breath* <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 9:30] (2/4)

Nicely reasoned! (No Text) <notlost> [9/13 @ 17:40] (0/0)
I do think that <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:37] (2/2)

Tolkien did do the gardening... <Kiskadee> [9/13 @ 15:08] (0/0)
Ha ha! Quite! (No Text) <Lottelita> [9/13 @ 11:07] (0/0)

Taking care of business <JewelTook> [9/13 @ 9:07] (1/1)

On #4, <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:31] (0/0)

Sam the spy <Morwen> [9/13 @ 9:00] (1/1)

I, too, <Curious> [9/13 @ 9:20] (0/0)

Repsonse to #1 and another question. <Luthien's Mama> [9/13 @ 9:00] (1/1)

In the appendices <Curious> [9/13 @ 9:14] (0/0)

Enter Sam. <septembrist> [9/13 @ 8:42] (1/1)

You definitely <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:51] (0/0)

THANKS YOU GUYS FOR GREAT SUGGESTIONS ON FANTASY BOOKS!!!! I am not against time travel.....but........ <Luthien888> [9/13 @ 7:50] (2/2)

I agree, but the Time Machine by HG Wells.. <Nemain> [9/13 @ 16:37] (0/0)
I agree....... time travel fantasy is kinda cheesy ;-) (No Text) <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 14:16] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 23 � Frodo's Dilemma. <Curious> [9/13 @ 4:49] (6/18)

Frodo's responsibility.... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/13 @ 14:15] (1/1)

I agree, although <Curious> [9/13 @ 15:18] (0/0)

Some thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 14:05] (1/2)

A work about faith is also <Curious> [9/13 @ 15:18] (1/1)

Very true. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 16:17] (0/0)

Well <Draupne> [9/13 @ 10:44] (1/3)

I guess the <Curious> [9/13 @ 10:59] (1/2)

Umm, that depends <Draupne> [9/13 @ 11:31] (1/1)

Fair enough. <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:58] (0/0)

You keep asking questions.... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 8:02] (1/1)

You did a pretty <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:19] (0/0)

Frodo must decide <Morwen> [9/13 @ 7:28] (1/1)

It is the paradox <Curious> [9/13 @ 7:40] (0/0)

Frodo is the ring bearer. <septembrist> [9/13 @ 5:21] (2/4)

I suppose there <Curious> [9/13 @ 7:28] (0/0)
Gandalf didn't...if memory serves me right <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 5:26] (1/2)

In this scene... <septembrist> [9/13 @ 5:30] (1/1)

Forgive me <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 5:32] (0/0)

Beorns Ancestary - My argument - Big Paper <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 1:58] (3/18)

my contentions to this theory <Ehtemir> [9/13 @ 13:45] (0/0)
What do you think <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:20] (1/1)

Tis fun to theorize, but <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 6:29] (0/0)

While I don't agree with your conclusion <Blue Wizard> [9/13 @ 6:09] (2/14)

How do Balrogs <sundering_c> [9/13 @ 8:35] (1/3)

Of course Balrogs change form <Blue Wizard> [9/13 @ 8:51] (1/2)

changes appearance <sundering_c> [9/13 @ 13:10] (1/1)

But it would be funny if it did turn into a pumpkin ;-) (No Text) <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 15:37] (0/0)

Radagast - When first mentioned <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 6:15] (2/9)

How about Radagast <Curious> [9/13 @ 7:44] (2/7)

Next <sundering_c> [9/13 @ 8:38] (0/0)
I do not <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 7:59] (3/5)

I suppose I should... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 10:14] (1/1)

Absolutely correct <Blue Wizard> [9/13 @ 10:37] (0/0)

Neither did Melian. <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:22] (0/0)
Because he fell in love? <Eledhwen> [9/13 @ 8:22] (1/1)

... and then there was......... <beren_boy> [9/13 @ 15:31] (0/0)

Forgot to add sorry <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 6:20] (0/0)

Just an observation from a second time reader of LOTR <StormCrowTheGrey> [9/13 @ 1:36] (2/4)

Ha! <Curious> [9/13 @ 11:01] (0/0)
Never picked up on it...I guess <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 3:25] (1/2)

Um, no, it's a pun.... <Nimrodel > [9/13 @ 5:39] (1/1)

To quote Dr. Zimmerman <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 5:49] (0/0)

Tom Bombadil <Ogion The Silent> [9/13 @ 1:16] (2/3)

Quote from Tolkien Reader <Nimfalma Took> [9/14 @ 15:28] (0/0)
Welcome, I found the Encyclopedia of Arda invaluable for this type of question <StormCrowTheGrey> [9/13 @ 1:48] (1/1)

I never joined this topic before <Nightfall> [9/13 @ 9:02] (0/0)

THANK-YOU!!! <Trina Casey> [9/12 @ 22:12] (0/0)

Hey <Trina Casey> [9/12 @ 21:54] (1/1)

those flet thingies <Ehtemir> [9/12 @ 22:08] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 22 � Pity. <Curious> [9/12 @ 17:25] (9/26)

Some thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 13:47] (1/4)

Good point about Gandalf's <Curious> [9/13 @ 15:23] (1/3)

Hey, you may be on to something! <Reverend> [9/13 @ 15:46] (1/2)

And who better to feel pity <Curious> [9/13 @ 16:06] (1/1)

Ah, the voice of reason... <Reverend> [9/13 @ 16:45] (0/0)

About #2 <JewelTook> [9/13 @ 8:51] (1/1)

The orcs never <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:58] (0/0)

sorry, dont know if this makes sense <bilbojohnstone> [9/13 @ 7:57] (1/1)

Guiltless killing <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:35] (0/0)

Torture and orcs. <septembrist> [9/13 @ 5:04] (1/1)

I am sure <Curious> [9/13 @ 7:23] (0/0)

On #3 <Eledhwen> [9/12 @ 23:53] (1/1)

Unfortunately, <Curious> [9/13 @ 7:20] (0/0)

Poor Gollum <Morwen> [9/12 @ 20:59] (1/1)

On #2, <Curious> [9/12 @ 21:22] (0/0)

on points 2&5 <Galathien> [9/12 @ 19:59] (3/4)

In Re #2, you understand.... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 21:36] (1/1)

This truly is! (No Text) <Galathien> [9/13 @ 10:04] (0/0)

And the Wood-elves <Curious> [9/12 @ 21:25] (0/0)
*blushes* Gee, thanks (No Text) <The Lady of the Woods> [9/12 @ 20:47] (0/0)

Here goes... <The Lady of the Woods> [9/12 @ 19:22] (1/1)

On #2, <Curious> [9/12 @ 21:30] (0/0)

It's a pity ... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 19:04] (1/3)

A thought on #2... <Silverlode> [9/12 @ 22:57] (1/2)

Absolutely <Reverend> [9/13 @ 7:39] (1/1)

The splinter theory <Curious> [9/13 @ 8:44] (0/0)

The Ring leaving its owner � My little observation� <Galathien> [9/12 @ 15:53] (1/4)

Good observations <iowaboy> [9/12 @ 18:46] (1/3)

I suppose that's mainly because <Galathien> [9/12 @ 19:18] (1/2)

yeah but <Eliadora> [9/13 @ 15:01] (1/1)

Well, I think so too, <Galathien> [9/13 @ 21:35] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 21 � Stray Words. <Curious> [9/12 @ 13:33] (8/25)

Some thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 2:04] (2/3)

Another Power, yes, but <Curious> [9/13 @ 7:16] (1/1)

*chuckles* Well, I did say "finesse": <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 13:30] (0/0)

Yes. I like "another power finessing variables." (No Text) <Reverend> [9/13 @ 5:20] (0/0)

Gollum the clumsy <Morwen> [9/12 @ 20:28] (1/1)

Radagast might <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:59] (0/0)

Dangerous thoughts, these. <Reverend> [9/12 @ 19:13] (1/1)

I think <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:54] (0/0)

wings in... <Nemain> [9/12 @ 18:30] (1/1)

I think I agree <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:52] (0/0)

Flaw in Sauron's logic. <Luthien's Mama> [9/12 @ 14:05] (2/7)

Good point! <Curious> [9/12 @ 14:18] (0/0)
Did Frodo betray us in the end? <iowaboy> [9/12 @ 14:16] (4/5)

Thoughts on Frodo <JewelTook> [9/13 @ 8:32] (0/0)
Some thoughts on this <NZ Strider> [9/13 @ 4:02] (1/1)

Fascinating stuff! <iowaboy> [9/13 @ 11:00] (0/0)

I thought so for many years. <Luthien's Mama> [9/12 @ 14:26] (0/0)
Check out <Curious> [9/12 @ 14:21] (0/0)

On with the faucets <Ufthak> [9/12 @ 13:51] (1/2)

The Encyclopedia <Curious> [9/12 @ 14:13] (1/1)

That's the doozie. <Ufthak> [9/12 @ 14:40] (0/0)

With regard to number 2 and 3 <iowaboy> [9/12 @ 13:51] (1/1)

Some Elves are <Curious> [9/12 @ 14:09] (0/0)

With regard to No.1 <beren_boy> [9/12 @ 13:42] (1/1)

I agree that <Curious> [9/12 @ 14:03] (0/0)

who else was in shock at the end? <Eliadora> [9/12 @ 13:28] (9/10)

This happens to me every time I read LOTR <Entmaiden> [9/13 @ 18:30] (0/0)
It's so long ago, <SauronLover> [9/13 @ 7:55] (0/0)
I wouldn't say shock, but boy, I was depressed for days.. <Seillib> [9/13 @ 5:27] (1/1)

hey, where is your footer from? i like it. (No Text) <Eliadora> [9/13 @ 14:53] (0/0)

Not shock, but... <notlost> [9/12 @ 19:14] (0/0)
Not really <Watson> [9/12 @ 18:13] (0/0)
I did. I had to read the end three times to make sure I wasn't misinterpreting it (No Text) <BrambleroseBrandybuck> [9/12 @ 17:10] (0/0)
Going through that again now. <Luthien's Mama> [9/12 @ 14:12] (0/0)
I was! <The Lady of the Woods> [9/12 @ 13:55] (0/0)
Tolkien did say <Curious> [9/12 @ 13:36] (0/0)

Just finished Aldarion & Erendis (The Mariner's Wife)! It made me cry. (No Text) <Rohwen> [9/12 @ 11:17] (2/5)

Good story <quickbeam2002> [9/12 @ 13:45] (1/1)

for those that say Tolkien can't write realistic romance <Arador> [9/12 @ 15:16] (0/0)

Your reaction is not atypical. <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 11:20] (2/2)

not exactly "atypical" of modern marriage-mess-ups. (No Text) <Ri elwen> [9/13 @ 13:19] (0/0)
Yes, but it was still a good read. (No Text) <Rohwen> [9/12 @ 11:28] (0/0)

Re: Sauron-what is he? <SauronLover> [9/12 @ 9:31] (2/8)

not on previous threads about this but... <Ehtemir> [9/12 @ 13:40] (0/0)
your view? <Froda> [9/12 @ 10:04] (2/6)

My thoughts <SauronLover> [9/13 @ 7:48] (0/0)
Sauron what is he <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 11:15] (2/4)

Beorn and Eol? <Groovicles> [9/12 @ 11:44] (0/0)
I wonder Sauron to Beron and Eol (that old chestnut) <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 11:33] (1/2)

Um...A couple of things. <DownfallenWest> [9/12 @ 11:49] (1/1)

Incase you haven't <Villordsutch> [9/13 @ 3:36] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 20 � Is Gollum Undead? <Curious> [9/12 @ 9:09] (8/22)

Gollum can die...sort of <Kiskadee> [9/12 @ 19:47] (1/1)

I'm not sure it <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:48] (0/0)

Thought about #4 <Morwen> [9/12 @ 19:44] (2/2)

There is <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:42] (0/0)
That's right he ate baby orcs in the Hobbit (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/12 @ 23:05] (0/0)

*cracks knuckles* OK, you're gonna love these <Ufthak> [9/12 @ 13:40] (1/3)

Fair enough! <Curious> [9/12 @ 13:54] (1/2)

the opposite of "undead" isn't necessarily "alive" <iowaboy> [9/12 @ 14:06] (1/1)

Yes, it <Curious> [9/12 @ 14:23] (0/0)

Is cannibalism an unforgivable crime? <cabbage'n'taters> [9/12 @ 13:01] (2/4)

In our society it's certainly viewed as fairly horrible. <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 23:17] (1/2)

What's interesting is... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/13 @ 7:53] (1/1)

Indeed, some say <Curious> [9/13 @ 12:42] (0/0)

I had forgotten <Curious> [9/12 @ 13:24] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 11:59] (1/1)

I suppose <Curious> [9/12 @ 12:22] (0/0)

Gollum is unnatural, not undead <Idril Celebrindal> [9/12 @ 11:45] (1/2)

Maybe undead is <Curious> [9/12 @ 12:10] (1/1)

The Ringwraiths ARE undead. <Ufthak> [9/12 @ 13:55] (0/0)

nosferatu <Froda> [9/12 @ 10:01] (1/1)

As someone noted <Curious> [9/12 @ 10:10] (0/0)

No. <Reverend> [9/12 @ 9:56] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 19 � Hope. <Curious> [9/12 @ 7:12] (8/22)

Some belated thoughts... <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 23:52] (1/2)

As to #3, <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:38] (1/1)

Another note on #3 <Kiskadee> [9/13 @ 7:39] (0/0)

Hopeful thoughts <notlost> [9/12 @ 19:09] (1/1)

I like your <Curious> [9/13 @ 6:28] (0/0)

More answers. <Morwen> [9/12 @ 12:13] (2/3)

More than that -- the Ring <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 23:09] (0/0)
And as NZ Strider <Curious> [9/12 @ 12:34] (1/1)

wow...that's just kinda funny (No Text) <Faerie23> [9/12 @ 12:44] (0/0)

Thoughts on hope <Thevina Finduilas> [9/12 @ 12:00] (1/1)

I like the idea <Curious> [9/12 @ 12:31] (0/0)

more UURT <Faerie23> [9/12 @ 11:54] (1/1)

In case <Curious> [9/12 @ 12:00] (0/0)

Don't try this at home <Reverend> [9/12 @ 9:53] (1/1)

As to #4, <Curious> [9/12 @ 10:00] (0/0)

on 3. Would Bilbo have passed the ring to Frodo if Gandalf had not been there..... <Nemain> [9/12 @ 9:08] (1/2)

I agree that <Curious> [9/12 @ 9:15] (1/1)

sure thing :-) (No Text) <Nemain> [9/12 @ 9:38] (0/0)

The light I think was his former Smeagol self, of young... <Nemain> [9/12 @ 8:42] (1/3)

They did not abandon <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:54] (1/2)

on this, I do wonder, what happened.... <Nemain> [9/12 @ 9:00] (1/1)

Under the rubble <Curious> [9/12 @ 9:05] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 18 � Gollum. <Curious> [9/12 @ 7:08] (8/20)

thoughtssssss.... <notlost> [9/12 @ 18:51] (1/1)

As to #3, <Curious> [9/12 @ 20:08] (0/0)

Little scroll of answers <Galathien> [9/12 @ 14:51] (1/2)

Gollum's life <Curious> [9/12 @ 17:19] (1/1)

And he suggests the idea <Galathien> [9/12 @ 18:53] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 11:43] (1/1)

That vision <Curious> [9/12 @ 11:54] (0/0)

Homicidal hobbits <Morwen> [9/12 @ 11:39] (1/1)

I agree, and, <Curious> [9/12 @ 11:49] (0/0)

Well now... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 9:39] (1/1)

Tolkien does <Curious> [9/12 @ 9:54] (0/0)

Some answers <Eledhwen> [9/12 @ 8:35] (1/1)

Yes, Bilbo <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:41] (0/0)

Is there a theme for the reason of Smeagol-Gollum. <Nemain> [9/12 @ 8:26] (1/4)

I guess we <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:37] (1/3)

I must say that for a hobbit to like the underground or dark places so much... <Nemain> [9/12 @ 9:03] (1/2)

I <Curious> [9/12 @ 9:07] (1/1)

*nods* makes good sense :-) (No Text) <Nemain> [9/12 @ 9:14] (0/0)

Ansswerrs, yesss, my preciousss <iowaboy> [9/12 @ 8:23] (1/1)

Yes, Bilbo was caught! <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:32] (0/0)

melkor <bilbojohnstone> [9/12 @ 6:22] (2/14)

bilbo...I feel dumb but...I don't really understand your footer... <Rohwen> [9/12 @ 11:21] (1/4)

well <bilbojohnstone> [9/12 @ 11:27] (2/3)

I think it is <Curious> [9/12 @ 11:35] (0/0)
Thanks...(sorry this is way off topic) <Rohwen> [9/12 @ 11:33] (1/1)

probably <bilbojohnstone> [9/12 @ 11:47] (0/0)

Yes. <Reverend> [9/12 @ 6:59] (2/8)

Thanks for that Reverend <Weige> [9/12 @ 7:47] (1/3)

That latter comment <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:01] (1/2)

confused <bilbojohnstone> [9/12 @ 8:16] (1/1)

You have it right. <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:43] (0/0)

wow <bilbojohnstone> [9/12 @ 7:10] (1/3)

T�rin <Eledhwen> [9/12 @ 8:29] (1/2)

HOME in libraries <sundering_c> [9/12 @ 10:18] (1/1)

British libraries ... <Eledhwen> [9/12 @ 10:43] (0/0)

Elves -possible fertility issues....... <Luthien888> [9/12 @ 6:22] (2/3)

Immortals with big families... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 6:47] (0/0)
The theory is... <Nimrodel > [9/12 @ 6:40] (1/1)

Quite right <PhantomS> [9/12 @ 23:23] (0/0)

Gandalf - Dire Magic <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 1:54] (2/4)

quest of the hobbit pales in comparison to TLOTR <Luthien888> [9/12 @ 6:32] (0/0)
It's more what happened to Tolkien <Eledhwen> [9/12 @ 4:08] (1/2)

I read the Hobbit sometime... <irpacynot> [9/12 @ 4:17] (1/1)

Sauron isn't mentioned by name <Moriel> [9/12 @ 4:24] (0/0)

Other Tolkien characters keen on astronomy? <FattyLumpkin79> [9/11 @ 21:53] (3/7)

Good answers below, and <Curious> [9/12 @ 11:28] (2/2)

thanks for the links! <FattyLumpkin79> [9/12 @ 12:10] (0/0)
Meza finks U is well read...Ta BTW (No Text) <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 11:35] (0/0)

The N�men�reans... <Kiskadee> [9/12 @ 5:05] (0/0)
Dwarves too also <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 1:50] (1/2)

Also in the Hobbit... <Morwen> [9/12 @ 10:47] (1/1)

You be right (me finks) (No Text) <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 11:24] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 17 � Sm�agol. <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:01] (9/31)

Only a couple minor points to add <Morwen> [9/12 @ 10:41] (1/1)

Oooh! And so <Curious> [9/12 @ 11:45] (0/0)

what lies downwards, shadows and darkness perhaps? <Nemain> [9/12 @ 7:55] (1/3)

It also <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:05] (1/2)

the Gaffer, oh yes but did he go to the extent of Smeagol.. <Nemain> [9/12 @ 8:20] (1/1)

I think <Curious> [9/12 @ 8:45] (0/0)

A few thoughts <notlost> [9/12 @ 5:46] (1/1)

Ah! Another <Curious> [9/12 @ 7:04] (0/0)

I don't have a lot to add... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 5:42] (1/1)

Fair enough! <Curious> [9/12 @ 7:02] (0/0)

spot on! <Froda> [9/12 @ 5:34] (1/1)

Tolkien wrote <Curious> [9/12 @ 6:58] (0/0)

Smeagol <The Lady of the Woods> [9/11 @ 23:01] (1/2)

Good point about <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:44] (1/1)

burrowing as shelter? <huorn> [9/12 @ 5:45] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 21:57] (3/8)

On philologists.... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 5:29] (1/2)

Thanks for that! (One really wonders who <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 11:07] (1/1)

I guess... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 18:40] (0/0)

Smeagol No Leave - No expert but... <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 3:07] (1/2)

Quite right. I stretched a point. <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 11:11] (1/1)

NZ Strider... <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 11:17] (0/0)

I am also reminded of Plato's <Curious> [9/12 @ 0:06] (1/1)

Tolkien meant his book <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 1:49] (0/0)

Scientist not poet.... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/11 @ 21:32] (1/2)

Yes, your memory <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:32] (1/1)

and yet... <notlost> [9/12 @ 5:58] (0/0)

Am I the first one? <Galathien> [9/11 @ 21:31] (2/3)

About the words .... <Kiskadee> [9/12 @ 4:51] (1/1)

Thanks (No Text) <Galathien> [9/12 @ 15:23] (0/0)

There certainly are contrasts <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:26] (0/0)

Flashback to Chapter 1 discussion - An Anachronism <Entmaiden> [9/11 @ 19:09] (4/5)

My thoughts on all the anachronisms. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/12 @ 7:20] (0/0)
My opinion <Galathien> [9/11 @ 20:13] (0/0)
And perhaps Tolkien wanted us to read the Hobbit as he did. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 19:33] (0/0)
He meant "rocket" in the sense of a firework! <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 19:28] (1/1)

express trains does work I think <Arador> [9/11 @ 19:57] (0/0)

I have a few questions... <PrincessArwen241> [9/11 @ 16:47] (3/3)

And as for the TT leak... <Nimrodel > [9/12 @ 5:32] (0/0)
Hmm... There's really no "right" way <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 17:45] (0/0)
First, a suggestion <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 17:21] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 16 � The Seven. <Curious> [9/11 @ 14:40] (6/23)

Yay, Dwarves!! <Thevina Finduilas> [9/12 @ 11:23] (1/1)

Dragons might <Curious> [9/12 @ 11:42] (0/0)

Dwarf-kings could refer to the status of those who received them... <Nemain> [9/11 @ 18:50] (1/1)

Interesting theory about <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:17] (0/0)

Obviously, there is much we do not know... <Reverend> [9/11 @ 17:46] (1/1)

You are of course free <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:11] (0/0)

I think that you have to resign yourself to the fact <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 15:44] (3/10)

I can't deny <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:05] (0/0)
While Tolkien may have been inconsistent, <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 17:25] (1/4)

And I would note <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:08] (1/3)

As someone who himself frequently capitalises <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 1:41] (1/2)

This begs the question... <Kiskadee> [9/12 @ 5:47] (1/1)

Unfortunately, I've never <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 11:03] (0/0)

Fie! Everything Tolkein did had a reason! <Ufthak> [9/11 @ 17:01] (1/3)

Of course there was a reason <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 17:22] (2/2)

In the foreword he only says that he couldn't type ten-fingered! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 1:38] (0/0)
And had lousy handwriting <Eledhwen> [9/12 @ 0:27] (0/0)

I'll throw my ring in the hat... <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 15:20] (1/1)

Yes, he did <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:03] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 15:10] (1/3)

Tolkien said, in <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:59] (1/2)

Interesting. Cf. letter Nr. 228: <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 2:34] (1/1)

I think <Curious> [9/12 @ 6:49] (0/0)

What do elves eat, how do they trade, do they have money? (No Text) <Rohwen> [9/11 @ 12:21] (2/9)

My take... <Astaldo> [9/11 @ 16:57] (1/1)

Well, the Elves did have <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 17:15] (0/0)

Answers <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 12:38] (2/6)

Thanks...I am sure your answers are more fun then Martinez' (No Text) <Rohwen> [9/12 @ 11:26] (0/0)
why Blue Wizard, How Witty!!!!! <Nimfarra_Baggins> [9/11 @ 14:01] (1/4)

If that was sarcastic... <Ufthak> [9/11 @ 17:05] (1/3)

Does Blue <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 2:55] (1/2)

The Wildhearts have had so many guitarists <Ufthak> [9/12 @ 9:25] (1/1)

Tis <Villordsutch> [9/12 @ 11:23] (0/0)

A thought on Gandalf and Chapter 2. <Inferno> [9/11 @ 11:58] (3/10)

No apologies necessary. <Curious> [9/12 @ 6:41] (0/0)
Wizards have powers that others do not know anything about. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 19:46] (0/0)
I don't remember where I read it... <huorn> [9/11 @ 12:09] (2/7)

It was in UT <Watson> [9/11 @ 13:43] (0/0)
That's part of it <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 13:33] (1/5)

I think Butterbur says <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 14:10] (1/4)

I stand corrected! It IS elderly ! <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 14:16] (1/3)

Iowaboy, where are you? <Reverend> [9/11 @ 17:28] (1/2)

I'm in Iowa! (Dubuque) (No Text) <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 17:57] (1/1)

Too far! (Marshalltown) (No Text) <Reverend> [9/12 @ 5:44] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 15 � The Shadow. <Curious> [9/11 @ 11:29] (12/35)

Well <Atlas> [9/11 @ 23:01] (2/3)

One of the important things about "fantasy" <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 1:35] (1/1)

But, <Curious> [9/12 @ 6:34] (0/0)

Gollum is evil (hey, he <Curious> [9/11 @ 23:58] (0/0)

Although Tolkien himself... <Galathien> [9/11 @ 19:50] (1/1)

As I mentioned below, <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:54] (0/0)

Gandalf tends to refer to the Ring as evil more than he does Sauron. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 17:36] (1/1)

I think you are right <Curious> [9/12 @ 0:17] (0/0)

I suspect... <Reverend> [9/11 @ 17:24] (1/1)

"Dispersed, but no less potent." <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:38] (0/0)

#2 and #3 <Eruviell> [9/11 @ 15:21] (1/1)

Yes, evil <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:36] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 14:29] (1/2)

As I mentioned below, <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:32] (1/1)

There is a very good book, <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 1:03] (0/0)

3 and 4 <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 14:09] (1/1)

I agree about Gollum. <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:26] (0/0)

Such thought-provoking questions! <Thevina Finduilas> [9/11 @ 13:14] (2/4)

The Elves are, <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:19] (0/0)
Well met, TF! <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 13:50] (2/2)

Thanks, iowaboy! <Thevina Finduilas> [9/12 @ 5:48] (0/0)
He did seem to imply <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:23] (0/0)

My rather long-winded answers <Morwen> [9/11 @ 13:01] (1/1)

No and yes? <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:09] (0/0)

excellent questions, all... <Froda> [9/11 @ 12:14] (1/2)

I agree about Gollum. <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:05] (1/1)

got it... <Froda> [9/12 @ 5:22] (0/0)

on 2 and 3... <huorn> [9/11 @ 12:10] (2/5)

Note that the ruffians <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:56] (0/0)
I don't think there are orcs out there. <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/11 @ 12:42] (2/3)

I had not made <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:58] (0/0)
Having irredeemable antagnists <Merryk> [9/11 @ 15:06] (1/1)

Yes, the monsters <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:01] (0/0)

Sauron the Great <Moriel> [9/11 @ 11:49] (1/1)

St. Paul's Cathedral, <Curious> [9/11 @ 14:32] (0/0)

Magic Trees Anyone-Can someone Please clear up the story of all the different magic trees? <Luthien888> [9/11 @ 7:46] (1/2)

Have you read the Silmarillion? (minor Sil spoilers) <Moriel> [9/11 @ 8:07] (1/1)

Tree talk <PhantomS> [9/12 @ 23:38] (0/0)

Can anyone suggest other excellent fantasy novels??? P.S.� � NO TIME TRAVEL OR MODERN DAY THROW INS <Luthien888> [9/11 @ 7:14] (15/20)

Not sure what you mean by "time travel" <RosieLass> [9/12 @ 12:31] (0/0)
The Innkeeper's Song by Peter S. Beagle <Razanur Tuc> [9/11 @ 19:18] (0/0)
Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn <Simple_Radagast> [9/11 @ 18:49] (0/0)
Fantasy novels <Pukel-man> [9/11 @ 17:46] (1/1)

Make sure you get a good translation in verse, though. <RosieLass> [9/12 @ 12:32] (0/0)

No modern-day throw-ins would rule out Harry Potter, but here are some other things <PrincessArwen241> [9/11 @ 16:29] (0/0)
"Sabriel" by Garth Nix... anything by Diana Wynne Jones although some of hers are a little young... <PippinsGirl05> [9/11 @ 15:11] (0/0)
OK, this is time travel.... but........ <beren_boy> [9/11 @ 14:15] (0/0)
Without a doubt - George R.R. Martin <MrCere> [9/11 @ 13:47] (0/0)
Others <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 11:06] (1/1)

I need to write these down too... (No Text) <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/11 @ 11:41] (0/0)

The Moon and the Sun by Vonda McIntyre.. <Nimrodel > [9/11 @ 10:29] (1/1)

TMaTS is very good, I recommend it too... <Idril Celebrindal> [9/11 @ 10:55] (0/0)

in addition to what has already been mentioned <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/11 @ 10:25] (1/1)

I agree! <Ufthak> [9/11 @ 10:49] (0/0)

Dragonlance (Aut,Win,Spring) <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 10:24] (0/0)
A few more that I highly recommend <Idril Celebrindal> [9/11 @ 10:17] (0/0)
My favorites... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/11 @ 8:41] (0/0)
yes.... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/11 @ 8:22] (1/1)

some ideas <Buckshee > [9/11 @ 9:12] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 14 � The One Ring. <Curious> [9/11 @ 7:00] (10/38)

I think the inscription was of a magical purpose of the ring. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 17:22] (2/3)

Orcs and Trolls prefer darkness. <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:50] (0/0)
The Rings were all for the Elves, initially <Moriel> [9/11 @ 19:13] (1/1)

many thanks Moriel. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 19:21] (0/0)

breif thought on 3 <Eruviell> [9/11 @ 15:24] (1/1)

I wonder <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:44] (0/0)

Some thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 13:57] (1/1)

Good catch, but <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:43] (0/0)

Back to the salt mines.... <Reverend> [9/11 @ 11:11] (1/5)

Celebrimbor heard <Curious> [9/11 @ 11:21] (1/4)

Ah, but when did he "hear" them? <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 11:55] (1/3)

I lean toward Sauron <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:39] (1/2)

I have a hard time... <Reverend> [9/12 @ 5:50] (1/1)

Sometimes an <Curious> [9/12 @ 7:50] (0/0)

My speculation about the Ring Verse <Idril Celebrindal> [9/11 @ 10:42] (2/3)

Gandalf gives the answer in "The Council of Elrond" <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 11:47] (1/1)

Right! <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:37] (0/0)

I like <Curious> [9/11 @ 11:11] (0/0)

very brief <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/11 @ 10:35] (1/1)

The choice of <Curious> [9/11 @ 10:41] (0/0)

I'll toss some out. <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 10:10] (2/3)

For more on <Curious> [9/11 @ 10:35] (0/0)
Morgoth didn't need a ring <Idril Celebrindal> [9/11 @ 10:34] (1/1)

Morgoth's taint <Curious> [9/11 @ 10:37] (0/0)

Rather scattered thoughts today... <Morwen> [9/11 @ 10:09] (1/1)

I had not thought <Curious> [9/11 @ 10:26] (0/0)

Well now <Ufthak> [9/11 @ 9:16] (2/8)

Actually, English used to have <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 12:09] (2/4)

*sniffs haughtily* And what would an American know of *English*!? <Ufthak> [9/11 @ 16:51] (2/2)

As George Bernard Shaw once remarked, <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 19:36] (0/0)
In America, they haven't spoken it in years.. (No Text) <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 17:08] (0/0)

Both German and English shared the "long s." <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 14:03] (0/0)

Here is a quote <Curious> [9/11 @ 10:04] (1/2)

So, if you know this <Ufthak> [9/11 @ 10:37] (1/1)

Sorry, I <Curious> [9/11 @ 11:25] (0/0)

Scripts <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 7:36] (2/2)

Wasn't it Sauron who taught the Elves? <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 10:15] (0/0)
Appendix E says: <Curious> [9/11 @ 8:37] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 13 � Ring and Cloud. <Curious> [9/11 @ 6:54] (9/25)

Once more into the breach... <Atlas> [9/11 @ 22:16] (1/1)

I can't <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:50] (0/0)

The Ring was made by Sauron and had some of his will embedded into it... <Nemain> [9/11 @ 17:10] (1/4)

The Lord of the Rings <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:33] (1/3)

that is an interesting point. <Nemain> [9/12 @ 7:50] (1/2)

Although <Curious> [9/12 @ 7:56] (1/1)

no, just coolly analytical :-) so cool posts you are doing. (No Text) <Nemain> [9/12 @ 8:47] (0/0)

Some quick thoughts <notlost> [9/11 @ 14:21] (1/1)

The Ring as fool's gold. <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:28] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 13:17] (1/2)

Have you seen "Duel"? <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:18] (1/1)

Afraid I missed that one. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/12 @ 0:42] (0/0)

Musings- just question #5 for now... <Thevina Finduilas> [9/11 @ 12:22] (1/1)

What also <Curious> [9/11 @ 21:10] (0/0)

Beauty can be treacherous... <Morwen> [9/11 @ 9:44] (2/3)

I Like... <Reverend> [9/11 @ 10:56] (1/1)

Yes! <Curious> [9/11 @ 11:08] (0/0)

You remind me of <Curious> [9/11 @ 10:15] (0/0)

my thoughts <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/11 @ 9:13] (1/2)

I like <Curious> [9/11 @ 9:33] (1/1)

oh no - not too deep.... <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/11 @ 10:20] (0/0)

Okay, let's go... <Reverend> [9/11 @ 9:03] (1/1)

The wheel of fire <Curious> [9/11 @ 9:38] (0/0)

My brain's starting to get tired <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 7:33] (1/1)

Good catch! <Curious> [9/11 @ 8:14] (0/0)

Continuing Sauron - What is he? <Villordsutch> [9/10 @ 23:26] (3/35)

Sauron not Beorns Dad <Luthien888> [9/11 @ 7:29] (0/0)
Sauron had lost the power to change shape.... <Reverend> [9/11 @ 5:09] (1/1)

Sauron father of Beorn and Eol <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 5:28] (0/0)

No, I don't <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 1:20] (1/31)

But if... <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 1:56] (3/30)

But you're positing <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 7:27] (0/0)
Metaphorically speaking... <Watson> [9/11 @ 5:03] (1/16)

Beorn and Tom - Sauron is Beorns Father <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 5:21] (3/15)

Since this is just "theory", <SauronLover> [9/11 @ 10:06] (1/1)

Thanx though (No Text) <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 10:20] (0/0)

WHICH READINGS SAY THAT? - ARE WE READING SAME BOOK/BOOKS? <Luthien888> [9/11 @ 7:40] (2/3)

Readings <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 9:34] (0/0)
Please <Curious> [9/11 @ 8:42] (1/1)

You do realize, don't you <Blue Wizard> [9/11 @ 10:08] (0/0)

which readings? <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 6:54] (2/8)

Hama - your soo right!! <Luthien888> [9/11 @ 7:36] (0/0)
It is nothing to do with <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 6:59] (1/6)

Then you need to cite them <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 7:09] (2/5)

Agreed! cite! (No Text) <huorn> [9/11 @ 7:18] (0/0)
Not a marker just a reader <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 7:16] (1/3)

Uh-uh <Watson> [9/11 @ 8:42] (1/2)

Just to add. <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 8:56] (1/1)

I understand <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 9:37] (0/0)

Why did you think of Sauron as the father? <Ataahua> [9/11 @ 2:06] (1/11)

Radagast is good but... <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 2:10] (2/10)

I assumed he could change shape. <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/11 @ 6:25] (1/5)

Hmmm....One more for the argument, but <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 6:44] (1/4)

Um... <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/11 @ 6:53] (1/3)

Not direct mother/father <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 7:03] (1/2)

Yes I got that. <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/11 @ 7:49] (1/1)

I would say to experience <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 9:40] (0/0)

OK, I'm stretching here a bit: <Ataahua> [9/11 @ 2:17] (2/3)

Kind of <Eledhwen> [9/11 @ 9:18] (0/0)
Her hair <Villordsutch> [9/11 @ 2:21] (1/1)

but she did... <jadeshadow> [9/11 @ 15:07] (0/0)

Gollum: "I am what I am" <FattyLumpkin79> [9/10 @ 19:45] (1/3)

Sm�agol may have dived into deep pools <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 20:45] (2/2)

cool, that's a nice bit of information! <FattyLumpkin79> [9/11 @ 7:37] (0/0)
I see Gollum as a corruption and magnification <Ataahua> [9/10 @ 21:52] (0/0)

Concerning trolls <Astaldo> [9/10 @ 18:03] (2/8)

My take on Ents <iowaboy> [9/10 @ 18:12] (2/6)

Ooh� -- Iowaboy, you have stabbed into the worst of all the hornets' nests! <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 20:26] (2/3)

Yeesh! <irpacynot> [9/11 @ 14:04] (1/1)

This is why most of us have come <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 15:14] (0/0)

Thanks for the help! (No Text) <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 13:14] (0/0)

orcs immortal? <Astaldo> [9/10 @ 18:24] (1/1)

I think they just might be <iowaboy> [9/10 @ 18:36] (0/0)

Not 100% sure but <ElfLordNick> [9/10 @ 18:05] (0/0)

Little Off Topic But... <ElfLordNick> [9/10 @ 16:09] (1/2)

This post is more appropriate for Main or Movie <Silverlode> [9/10 @ 17:06] (1/1)

But it is rather cute... (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 19:51] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 12 � Saving the Shire. <Curious> [9/10 @ 14:21] (16/46)

I hate work <notlost> [9/11 @ 14:12] (1/1)

Although if the hobbits <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:46] (0/0)

Hobbit toughness. <cabbage'n'taters> [9/11 @ 10:54] (1/1)

Interesting. <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:44] (0/0)

I'm a day late, but want to add my thoughts! <Thevina Finduilas> [9/11 @ 6:27] (1/1)

I am <Curious> [9/11 @ 6:39] (0/0)

Some thoughts <Kiskadee> [9/10 @ 20:41] (1/1)

A strange innocence. <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:43] (0/0)

I always thought the Wise were the member of the council and the Istari. <Nemain> [9/10 @ 19:36] (1/2)

So you see <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:38] (1/1)

oh yes I do :-) (No Text) <Nemain> [9/11 @ 17:40] (0/0)

My thoughts <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 19:36] (1/2)

This particular chapter <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:36] (1/1)

This particular chapter really hits home today. (No Text) <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/11 @ 8:47] (0/0)

I shall try not to repeat what everyone else has said <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 19:35] (1/1)

As the Taoists say, <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:30] (0/0)

More thoughts <Morwen> [9/10 @ 19:16] (1/1)

I may be <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:17] (0/0)

Forgive my (probably) obvious comments <Faerie23> [9/10 @ 18:17] (1/2)

The hobbits have <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:12] (1/1)

each group has its moment in history <Faerie23> [9/11 @ 3:48] (0/0)

Damn good questions! <iowaboy> [9/10 @ 17:44] (2/4)

The spiritual reasons <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:09] (0/0)
Excellent comments! <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 19:46] (1/2)

A couple more things... <iowaboy> [9/11 @ 14:11] (1/1)

Actually, I'm an <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 14:47] (0/0)

Part 12 - and it's only Tuesday. <Reverend> [9/10 @ 16:57] (2/6)

Gandalf had not, <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:04] (0/0)
I feel the same way. <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 19:54] (1/4)

But they are great <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:00] (1/3)

I do think... <Reverend> [9/10 @ 21:13] (1/2)

Yes... sigh... I agree <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 22:22] (1/1)

After <Curious> [9/10 @ 22:25] (0/0)

Thoughts and opinions <Silverlode> [9/10 @ 16:55] (1/1)

Yes, it <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:57] (0/0)

re: 3 & 4, (Or Maybe I'm Crazy) <JewelTook> [9/10 @ 16:40] (1/2)

you're not crazy at all <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 19:10] (1/1)

Remember Gandalf's words: <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:51] (0/0)

Hmmmm. <Eruviell> [9/10 @ 16:33] (1/1)

And King Elessar <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:45] (0/0)

Well <stummies> [9/10 @ 15:28] (1/1)

Good point about the advice. <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:47] (0/0)

Here we go again <Ufthak> [9/10 @ 15:00] (1/3)

Hobbits do have <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:42] (1/2)

Not to be nit-picky <hisako> [9/10 @ 16:27] (1/1)

Yes, but they're in a minority <iowaboy> [9/10 @ 17:48] (0/0)

Elrond, tempted? <Mister Frodo> [9/10 @ 13:29] (4/14)

No I do think he ever was. He was the wearer of one of the 3 elven rings. <Nemain> [9/10 @ 19:28] (1/2)

Yeah but, but.... ;-) <Hama of Rohan> [9/10 @ 19:44] (1/1)

yes, but did Elrond need to be Tested like the other two. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 17:44] (0/0)

Hmm, off the top of my head <Nimfalma Took> [9/10 @ 13:56] (1/5)

I think....... <beren_boy> [9/10 @ 14:10] (3/4)

Elrond vs. Galadriel <A man> [9/10 @ 18:55] (0/0)
Excellent points <Nimfalma Took> [9/10 @ 14:23] (0/0)
excellent synopsis beren boy <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 14:13] (1/1)

I'm with ya' <iowaboy> [9/10 @ 18:03] (0/0)

Hmmmm..... <FrodoFan17> [9/10 @ 13:52] (0/0)
That's a very interesting question <Kimi> [9/10 @ 13:51] (2/3)

I agree <Glaze1> [9/10 @ 13:57] (0/0)
Also........ <beren_boy> [9/10 @ 13:57] (1/1)

O... and..... <beren_boy> [9/10 @ 14:00] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 11 � Doubt Slept. <Curious> [9/10 @ 12:23] (12/30)

Gandalf's one mistake.... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/11 @ 10:51] (1/1)

Denial sounds right. <Curious> [9/11 @ 22:42] (0/0)

Telling thru the characters. <Hama of Rohan> [9/11 @ 7:20] (1/1)

Excellent point! <Curious> [9/11 @ 8:32] (0/0)

"And then I made a great mistake... I let the matter be. <Merryk> [9/10 @ 19:30] (1/1)

He did <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:35] (0/0)

Telling the tale like a storyteller is far better than narration. <Nemain> [9/10 @ 18:56] (1/2)

As to #3, <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:28] (1/1)

Bilbo had the ring longer and I think was becoming more possessed by it. <Nemain> [9/11 @ 16:52] (0/0)

"Comapre and contrast". Gods, my English A-levels come flooding back... <Ufthak> [9/10 @ 14:33] (1/1)

In the film <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:39] (0/0)

About #4 <JewelTook> [9/10 @ 14:12] (1/1)

Something stopped him <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:37] (0/0)

You sure make us think a lot!! <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 14:09] (1/3)

Tolkien certainly considered <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:36] (1/2)

I appreciate how you read everyone's comments... <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 18:59] (1/1)

You're welcome! <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:48] (0/0)

Just a thought about #1 <Morwen> [9/10 @ 14:00] (1/1)

Yes, nothing is gradual <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:31] (0/0)

Some thoughts... <Glaze1> [9/10 @ 13:48] (1/1)

As to the lesser rings, <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:27] (0/0)

Thoughts..... <beren_boy> [9/10 @ 13:47] (1/2)

Yes, film is more visual. <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:24] (1/1)

Well. <beren_boy> [9/11 @ 13:45] (0/0)

#1, mostly <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 13:18] (1/1)

I like it too. It <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:20] (0/0)

My answers <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 12:45] (2/3)

I was hoping <Curious> [9/10 @ 13:21] (0/0)
One quick addition: <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 13:04] (1/1)

Yes. <Curious> [9/10 @ 13:10] (0/0)

Wizards / timeline <Murmuran> [9/10 @ 12:20] (2/4)

Here you go! <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 12:55] (2/2)

There is some indication... <Watson> [9/10 @ 13:33] (0/0)
Knowledge... <beren_boy> [9/10 @ 13:23] (0/0)

Some thoughts.... <Idril Celebrindal> [9/10 @ 12:49] (0/0)

Bilbo and THE Du'nadan (Aragorn) <Luthien's Mama> [9/10 @ 10:32] (2/13)

This pretty much covers my thoughts on the subject! <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 13:08] (0/0)
too young in the hobbit... <huorn> [9/10 @ 10:45] (1/11)

So where did they meet? <Luthien's Mama> [9/10 @ 10:51] (3/10)

Interesting point. <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:08] (1/6)

Aragorn's Excile ... <Luthien's Mama> [9/10 @ 11:16] (2/5)

He wasn't exactly exiled. <Morwen> [9/10 @ 11:34] (1/3)

Agreed ... I think it was a self-imposed exile <Luthien's Mama> [9/10 @ 11:56] (2/2)

I wouldn't even say.... <beren_boy> [9/10 @ 13:14] (0/0)
Well, that could have another meaning. <Morwen> [9/10 @ 13:13] (0/0)

I think <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:26] (0/0)

I think they did meet in Rivendell <Morwen> [9/10 @ 11:05] (0/0)
I have wondered that as well, and <Lottelita> [9/10 @ 10:59] (1/1)

Also an intriguing thought. (No Text) <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:09] (0/0)

Jumping ahead of the 'chapter' discussion, but I would like to know your thoughts on... <Lancelot> [9/10 @ 9:31] (6/17)

a enigmatic character to keep us readers pondering. <Nemain> [9/10 @ 18:12] (0/0)
OK, I had a breakthrough. <Curious> [9/10 @ 14:10] (1/2)

Acceptable. <Reverend> [9/10 @ 16:45] (1/1)

Nicely said, both of you. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/11 @ 8:52] (0/0)

He represents things Tolkien felt were important <Idril Celebrindal> [9/10 @ 12:07] (1/1)

Idril, I think that crystallizes my feelings about Tom <Entmaiden> [9/10 @ 18:09] (0/0)

Sorry, but <Curious> [9/10 @ 10:51] (2/5)

Yay! (That chapter's mine!) (No Text) <Lottelita> [9/10 @ 11:46] (0/0)
Why not jump in now? <Ataahua> [9/10 @ 11:14] (1/3)

Because <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:28] (1/2)

Why not do this? <Inferno> [9/10 @ 12:04] (1/1)

Sorry, I <Curious> [9/10 @ 12:36] (0/0)

From a literary standpoint, <Inferno> [9/10 @ 10:14] (1/1)

I hadn't thought of your third point before. <Ataahua> [9/10 @ 11:27] (0/0)

I think <Nimfalma Took> [9/10 @ 9:50] (1/2)

That's true <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 10:02] (1/1)

I think you can take it even further <Weige> [9/10 @ 10:26] (0/0)

Sauron - What was he? <Villordsutch> [9/10 @ 5:05] (1/1)

Maia <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 5:16] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 10 � Gandalf Reappears. <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:51] (9/29)

Okay. <Atlas> [9/10 @ 23:05] (1/1)

When in doubt, <Curious> [9/11 @ 6:32] (0/0)

Perhaps time to a wizard is kind of an inconsequence, "a year or two" <Nemain> [9/10 @ 18:07] (1/1)

What <Curious> [9/11 @ 6:27] (0/0)

The math doesn't trouble me. <Reverend> [9/10 @ 11:02] (1/4)

Also, <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:12] (1/3)

Definitely. <Reverend> [9/10 @ 16:18] (1/2)

But what about <Galathien> [9/10 @ 20:08] (1/1)

Good point. (No Text) <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:47] (0/0)

Regarding #3 <Inferno> [9/10 @ 10:21] (2/3)

Question: How do we know that Gandalf was ever in the "Shadow-world"? <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 2:51] (0/0)
Oooh! I like <Curious> [9/10 @ 10:47] (1/1)

Second that. (No Text) <Atlas> [9/10 @ 22:45] (0/0)

Additions to what others have said. <Morwen> [9/10 @ 10:21] (1/1)

What did Gandalf <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:51] (0/0)

gandalf's time <huorn> [9/10 @ 7:09] (1/1)

this is a good point <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 7:56] (0/0)

Being the third in line.... <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 5:58] (1/1)

Not 'lame' at all! <DownfallenWest> [9/10 @ 12:34] (0/0)

Having graciously let NZ Strider go first... <Kimi> [9/10 @ 4:05] (2/3)

Good point about night time. <Curious> [9/10 @ 5:08] (0/0)
Also visited Theoden a lot <StormCrowTheGrey> [9/10 @ 4:43] (1/1)

And Minas Tirith <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 4:51] (0/0)

My answers <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 3:29] (2/5)

Did Gandalf HAVE to sleep? (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/10 @ 6:50] (1/3)

I don't think he had to <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 8:55] (1/2)

What about when Pippin steals the Palantir? <Hama of Rohan> [9/10 @ 9:07] (1/1)

Agree -- the Istari had real bodies <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 12:07] (0/0)

Aha! You are first! I <Curious> [9/10 @ 3:38] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 9 � Tree-men. <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:48] (10/29)

This will make me unpopular. <Atlas> [9/10 @ 22:36] (1/4)

Heavens -- why unpopular, Altas? <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 2:29] (1/3)

I figured... <Atlas> [9/11 @ 3:01] (1/2)

Oh, well, we've joked before <NZ Strider> [9/11 @ 3:07] (1/1)

Not <Curious> [9/11 @ 6:23] (0/0)

Some answers on 2,3,4 <Galathien> [9/10 @ 19:44] (1/1)

Seems original to me. <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:19] (0/0)

It is tempting to say <Blue Wizard> [9/10 @ 13:28] (1/1)

Good point about <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:53] (0/0)

My Stabs <notlost> [9/10 @ 13:01] (2/2)

Did you notice <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:51] (0/0)
Turkey? <Kimi> [9/10 @ 13:10] (0/0)

Well, I have nothing very origional... <Reverend> [9/10 @ 10:50] (1/1)

As to #2 <Curious> [9/10 @ 11:20] (0/0)

Hal must have seen something. <Morwen> [9/10 @ 9:44] (1/1)

I agree that <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:55] (0/0)

I think he did see an Entwife <Uitlander> [9/10 @ 8:30] (1/1)

Well, <Curious> [9/10 @ 21:58] (0/0)

My turn! <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 4:48] (2/3)

This obscure reference is one of my favorites <lumpkin> [9/10 @ 6:31] (0/0)
I also think he saw an ent-wife, <Curious> [9/10 @ 5:26] (1/1)

me too! <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/10 @ 6:40] (0/0)

Thanks -- I'll go first! <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 3:12] (1/2)

Could that explain "dwarves" <Curious> [9/10 @ 3:32] (1/1)

Interesting thought. It's possible, come to think of it. <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 3:37] (0/0)

You're a great observer of details! <Kimi> [9/10 @ 3:11] (2/3)

But maybe not in the Shire. <Curious> [9/10 @ 3:26] (0/0)
Argh! You beat me by seconds! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 3:13] (1/1)

Haha! *waves arms in triumph* <Kimi> [9/10 @ 3:21] (0/0)

Is Elrond related to Earendil, Isildur's father? <NoneOfTheAbove> [9/9 @ 23:46] (4/6)

When they first meet, Arwen <Entmaiden> [9/10 @ 18:00] (0/0)
I think you may be confusing Elendil and Earendil <Kimi> [9/10 @ 0:16] (1/1)

You're right. <NoneOfTheAbove> [9/10 @ 12:28] (0/0)

Wrong! <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 0:15] (0/0)
A little confusion here... <Silverlode> [9/10 @ 0:14] (1/1)

Thanks again for both your help, Eledhwen and Silverlode. (No Text) <NoneOfTheAbove> [9/10 @ 12:41] (0/0)

Hobbits and Dwarves as friends. <cabbage'n'taters> [9/9 @ 21:44] (1/5)

Some thoughts <Silverlode> [9/10 @ 0:04] (2/4)

Maybe not close friends... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/10 @ 6:43] (0/0)
Don't forget Gandalf. <Atlas> [9/10 @ 1:33] (1/2)

From UT, part 3, The Quest of Erebor <Nimfalma Took> [9/10 @ 9:45] (1/1)

Thanks! Great! (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/10 @ 10:26] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 8 � Dwarves, No Humans. <Curious> [9/9 @ 18:27] (8/19)

Strange wanderings... <Uitlander> [9/10 @ 8:39] (1/1)

The Blue <Curious> [9/10 @ 10:25] (0/0)

A bit of trivia about 2: <Kimi> [9/10 @ 3:40] (1/2)

They were not of that "line." <Curious> [9/10 @ 3:53] (1/1)

I wondered about that, but in context <Kimi> [9/10 @ 4:11] (0/0)

Hum. <Atlas> [9/10 @ 1:26] (1/1)

Good point about Bilbo. <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:41] (0/0)

My answers <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 0:51] (1/2)

Do you suppose <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:39] (1/1)

We learn all too little about the Dwarves. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 3:00] (0/0)

Thoughts on questions 3 and 4. <Morwen> [9/9 @ 20:36] (1/1)

Good point about Aragorn! <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:31] (0/0)

here's what I got <stummies> [9/9 @ 20:30] (1/1)

I like the miner analogy! <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:27] (0/0)

You make so much WORK for us... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 19:14] (2/2)

If they were from further east <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:24] (0/0)
Yes - people avoided the Elves <Galathien> [9/9 @ 20:08] (0/0)

perhaps dwarves and hobbits are too similar to men? <Arador> [9/9 @ 18:39] (1/1)

I was about to <Curious> [9/10 @ 5:19] (0/0)

The sorcerers of Middle-earth. Just who and what were they? <Bloody_Barnabas> [9/9 @ 17:02] (5/7)

I think that the rule... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 19:59] (1/1)

Isn't 'magic' different than lore, than sorcery, than spells? <Hama of Rohan> [9/10 @ 6:54] (0/0)

We know the Witch-king <Curious> [9/9 @ 18:31] (1/1)

"Neuromancer"? <Hama of Rohan> [9/10 @ 7:11] (0/0)

perhaps... <Astaldo> [9/9 @ 18:18] (0/0)
I always thought... <Glaze> [9/9 @ 18:14] (0/0)
Sorcerors <A man> [9/9 @ 17:30] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 7 � Crossing the River. <Curious> [9/9 @ 14:34] (14/41)

Read The Hero With a Thousand Faces <cubbyphan> [9/10 @ 10:24] (1/1)

It is on my list! <Curious> [9/10 @ 20:22] (0/0)

Maybe rivers are simply boundaries <Hama of Rohan> [9/10 @ 7:22] (2/2)

Yes, I saw it as a boundary much like Hama... <vedhed> [9/10 @ 14:50] (0/0)
Yes, we <Curious> [9/10 @ 10:20] (0/0)

My thoughts (belatedly) <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 1:49] (1/3)

Note that Sept 22 <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:04] (1/2)

Thou'rt up early! <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 2:14] (1/1)

Yes, it is a long <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:43] (0/0)

Water, water, everywhere <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 0:35] (1/3)

Ah but it was stated. <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:59] (1/2)

Yes, but <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 1:35] (1/1)

Fair enough. I <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:07] (0/0)

Wade in the Water... <notlost> [9/9 @ 20:58] (1/2)

You don't think it's buried? <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:57] (1/1)

I guess... <notlost> [9/10 @ 12:50] (0/0)

Rivers and Religion <Morwen> [9/9 @ 20:06] (1/1)

I also thought of "Leaf <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:51] (0/0)

image of a river <Arador> [9/9 @ 19:10] (0/0)
I never thought crossing <Ginger> [9/9 @ 18:48] (0/0)
Perhaps the river represented the beginning of a journey. <Nemain> [9/9 @ 18:42] (0/0)
Interesting questions... <Glaze> [9/9 @ 17:56] (0/0)
Rivers and other things <Kimi> [9/9 @ 16:58] (1/1)

Hey, paganism is <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:46] (0/0)

I think that Frodo meant <Galathien> [9/9 @ 15:48] (2/4)

Nice analysis <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:39] (1/1)

Thanks (No Text) <Galathien> [9/10 @ 19:18] (0/0)

Good point about the Brandywine! <Glaze> [9/9 @ 18:07] (1/1)

Good point! (No Text) <Curious> [9/9 @ 18:24] (0/0)

Crossing a river <Lottelita> [9/9 @ 15:40] (1/1)

Thanks for the support. <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:37] (0/0)

Yowza <Reverend> [9/9 @ 15:12] (2/9)

Your answer to #3 <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:09] (0/0)
I didn't know that "symbology " was a word. <Merryk> [9/9 @ 19:19] (1/7)

Want another word? <Reverend> [9/9 @ 20:28] (3/6)

Agreed, but that doesn't mean that <hisako> [9/10 @ 13:35] (0/0)
Except, <Curious> [9/10 @ 1:33] (1/3)

Of course. <Reverend> [9/10 @ 6:29] (1/2)

Tolkien <Curious> [9/10 @ 10:17] (1/1)

Or not. <Atlas> [9/10 @ 23:33] (0/0)

I couldn't agree more. (No Text) <Atlas> [9/10 @ 0:51] (0/0)

Unfinished Tales <Frodosgurl> [9/9 @ 14:24] (1/1)

They are unfinished as published. <Curious> [9/9 @ 14:41] (0/0)

A meaningless question. <Reverend> [9/9 @ 13:58] (2/2)

I suspect the Law was not Absolute but applied reasonably... <SonofElrond> [9/9 @ 20:56] (0/0)
I always did think <Curious> [9/9 @ 14:19] (0/0)

Sauron and his relation to the Ring <stummies> [9/9 @ 12:24] (9/23)

why didn't Sauron make a new ring? <Laila> [9/10 @ 0:18] (1/3)

No, he spent himself <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:36] (1/2)

Is that conjecture... <irpacynot> [9/10 @ 12:28] (1/1)

I con't give you cites, but <Curious> [9/10 @ 15:57] (0/0)

Some contradiction? <Galathien> [9/9 @ 19:47] (0/0)
I do not think that Sauron knew the One Ring could destroy him... <Nemain> [9/9 @ 18:57] (0/0)
whoops <stummies> [9/9 @ 15:16] (2/2)

Isildur is not <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:39] (0/0)
My thoughts... <Glaze> [9/9 @ 17:39] (0/0)

What timing! <Curious> [9/9 @ 14:56] (7/9)

Timing <stummies> [9/10 @ 15:03] (1/1)

Well, <Curious> [9/10 @ 16:05] (0/0)

This happened a few times the last time we discussed Lord of the Rings here <Idril Celebrindal> [9/10 @ 10:51] (0/0)
I have to agree with Eledhwen <Inferno> [9/10 @ 10:29] (0/0)
Actually, Curious ... <Eledhwen> [9/10 @ 9:55] (1/1)

OK. <Curious> [9/10 @ 16:00] (0/0)

What?! <Ufthak> [9/10 @ 9:51] (0/0)
Pardon my ignorance... <Watson> [9/10 @ 9:20] (0/0)
*slaps forehead* New? <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/9 @ 15:03] (0/0)

my theory on this subject <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/9 @ 13:50] (0/0)
perhaps they didn't know what would happen <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 13:36] (0/0)
Very good points. <Lancelot> [9/9 @ 13:06] (0/0)
"The tale grew in the telling..." <Reverend> [9/9 @ 12:35] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 6 � Frodo's Life. <Curious> [9/9 @ 10:35] (5/10)

My answers (mostly reduplicating the others') <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 2:02] (1/1)

I tried <Curious> [9/10 @ 2:10] (0/0)

The influence of culture...and stories <notlost> [9/9 @ 20:25] (1/1)

Interesting connection <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:34] (0/0)

musings upon Frodo <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 12:21] (1/1)

Yes, what would he read? <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:31] (0/0)

I think we have to assume... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 11:42] (1/1)

There is no mention, <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:27] (0/0)

Money, and dreams of mountains <Morwen> [9/9 @ 11:20] (1/1)

Maybe <Curious> [9/9 @ 11:33] (0/0)

Gandalf the White, question <Rohwen> [9/9 @ 10:15] (2/5)

I would guess that his .... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 12:42] (0/0)
Gandalf had Glamdring. <Morwen> [9/9 @ 10:32] (3/3)

Where did you last see it? <Atlas> [9/10 @ 0:39] (0/0)
that's because Gandalf is that cool <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 13:33] (0/0)
possible theme <Ehtemir> [9/9 @ 11:47] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 5 � Elves in the Shire. <Curious> [9/9 @ 7:24] (8/20)

Taking another go at this one... <NZ Strider> [9/10 @ 2:57] (1/1)

On #7, <Curious> [9/10 @ 3:43] (0/0)

Seeing things <notlost> [9/9 @ 20:12] (1/1)

I like the Morel <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:18] (0/0)

I always considered that Bilbo was an elf-friend... <Nemain> [9/9 @ 17:49] (1/2)

I like the idea that <Curious> [9/9 @ 18:23] (1/1)

I second that...or third I guess. (No Text) <Reverend> [9/9 @ 19:17] (0/0)

on # 7 <Galathien> [9/9 @ 17:24] (1/4)

Yes, organic. <Curious> [9/9 @ 18:17] (1/3)

As opposed to... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 19:06] (1/2)

Although <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:21] (1/1)

Yes - maybe that's the reason. <Galathien> [9/10 @ 19:50] (0/0)

my ideas <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 11:54] (1/1)

I like the idea of wandering Elves. <Curious> [9/9 @ 18:14] (0/0)

One answer <NZ Strider> [9/9 @ 11:51] (1/1)

Well, <Curious> [9/9 @ 11:55] (0/0)

My thoughts <Morwen> [9/9 @ 9:54] (1/1)

Great thoughts! <Curious> [9/9 @ 10:17] (0/0)

*Deep Breath* <Reverend> [9/9 @ 9:07] (1/1)

Thanks for jumping in! <Curious> [9/9 @ 9:12] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 4 � Friends and Relatives. <Curious> [9/9 @ 3:07] (6/14)

Lots of good answers here <Kimi> [9/9 @ 11:48] (0/0)
My answers <NZ Strider> [9/9 @ 11:36] (1/3)

I think Berilac <Curious> [9/9 @ 15:11] (1/2)

One good reason... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 16:05] (1/1)

Marion Berry's <Curious> [9/10 @ 0:07] (0/0)

Thoughts about questions 3 & 4. <Morwen> [9/9 @ 10:08] (1/1)

I can just imagine <Curious> [9/9 @ 10:24] (0/0)

Berilac was a stick-in-the-mud <Kiskadee> [9/9 @ 5:57] (1/1)

More good answers! <Curious> [9/9 @ 6:35] (0/0)

I would guess.... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 5:30] (2/2)

Unmarried heroes.... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/9 @ 7:28] (0/0)
Maybe not a Bolger. <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:53] (0/0)

Aaargh! Too many questions! <Eledhwen> [9/9 @ 3:34] (1/1)

I like your <Curious> [9/9 @ 6:38] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 3 � The Last Supper. <Curious> [9/8 @ 18:35] (11/22)

One influence of many, I think <JewelTook> [9/9 @ 18:04] (0/0)
when is a meal just a meal? <notlost> [9/9 @ 13:46] (0/0)
I think the word "disciple" is misapplied <huorn> [9/9 @ 5:47] (0/0)
I'm with Arador ... <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 5:16] (0/0)
No, it's "Feast in the House of Baggins" <Kimi> [9/9 @ 0:53] (2/2)

I prefer to think <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:25] (0/0)
I got the joke! <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 5:07] (0/0)

I never thought of that <EldersisofMerry> [9/8 @ 23:36] (1/1)

Thanks for the support. <Curious> [9/9 @ 3:32] (0/0)

Comments and a question... <Kiskadee> [9/8 @ 21:27] (3/3)

I just skipped over the hundredweight thing. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/9 @ 7:21] (0/0)
I never noticed either <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/9 @ 5:10] (0/0)
I certainly did not notice! <Curious> [9/9 @ 3:19] (0/0)

Hobbits can be a bit suspicious and gloomy. <Morwen> [9/8 @ 20:22] (0/0)
isn't that a bit extreme? <Arador> [9/8 @ 20:04] (0/0)
*pauses as she remembers English class...* <The Lady of the Woods> [9/8 @ 19:22] (0/0)
Sorry. <Reverend> [9/8 @ 18:47] (4/5)

Agree with Reverend totally. (No Text) <beren_boy> [9/9 @ 13:47] (0/0)
On the radio just this morning I heard a story... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/9 @ 8:02] (1/1)

On a lighter note, <Curious> [9/9 @ 8:19] (0/0)

This from the man who invented the UUT! <Curious> [9/9 @ 3:27] (0/0)
What Reverend said <Altaira> [9/8 @ 19:58] (0/0)

About the other 16 Rings... <Nimfalma Took> [9/8 @ 12:47] (1/3)

I know of no names for the other rings... <Reverend> [9/8 @ 13:17] (1/2)

Tolkien said that most of the Rings of mortal men were given either to the Haradrim or to "Black Numenoreans" who crossed the Sea to establish dominion on Middle Earth before the fall. (No Text) <Dryhten> [9/8 @ 23:25] (1/1)

Ehem. <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:30] (0/0)

on Melkor and Tulkas <Astaldo> [9/8 @ 11:20] (2/12)

A qualified disagreement. <Reverend> [9/8 @ 13:08] (2/4)

Very nicely stated, but <Curious> [9/9 @ 9:23] (1/1)

Ah yes. <Reverend> [9/9 @ 11:47] (0/0)

We can also use another very prevalent theme <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/8 @ 13:23] (1/1)

I disagree: <sundering_c> [9/8 @ 18:24] (0/0)

wow <Ehtemir> [9/8 @ 12:24] (1/6)

I would say so. <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/8 @ 12:38] (3/5)

isuppose <sundering_c> [9/8 @ 18:41] (0/0)
there's a different perspective here <Ehtemir> [9/8 @ 13:36] (1/1)

Both Ehtemir and Astaldo: <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/8 @ 15:37] (0/0)

didn't have time.... <Astaldo> [9/8 @ 13:16] (1/1)

As for how to avoid having your posts wiped out <Tauriel> [9/8 @ 13:58] (0/0)

Who else cries at Mt. Doom <Eliadora> [9/8 @ 10:23] (14/27)

When Frodo parts with Sam at the Grey Havens <Idril Celebrindal> [9/9 @ 7:28] (0/0)
it was heart-wrenching <FattyLumpkin79> [9/8 @ 20:21] (0/0)
I cry when Im finished with all three books because I wish I wasn't done! (No Text) <read2achieve> [9/8 @ 19:07] (1/1)

But it ISN'T done... <Nimrodel > [9/8 @ 19:23] (0/0)

I cry when Sam finally realises how hopeless it is... <jadeshadow> [9/8 @ 17:40] (0/0)
And there is her green grave... <Glaze> [9/8 @ 17:17] (2/4)

Is it really a sacrifice? <Lancelot> [9/9 @ 12:45] (1/2)

No offense taken... <Glaze1> [9/9 @ 13:27] (1/1)

Thank you. You reminded me of things I had forgotten. I agree and see a little more clearly. (No Text) <Lancelot> [9/10 @ 8:26] (0/0)

That IS a beautiful passage <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 18:26] (0/0)

I think Sam would make the best husband...anyone with me? (No Text) <Rohwen> [9/8 @ 17:16] (0/0)
ohhh, i cry when <Caitie-the-Slightly-Ecru> [9/8 @ 14:32] (1/1)

that part <Rain Queen> [9/8 @ 20:36] (0/0)

Oooooh gosh.... <Elf maiden of Rivendell> [9/8 @ 13:14] (0/0)
During Frodo's explanation speech to Sam <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/8 @ 13:13] (0/0)
I cry at the field of Cormallen <Morwen> [9/8 @ 12:39] (3/4)

quote from Cormallen <Eliadora> [9/9 @ 15:10] (0/0)
me too (No Text) <sundering_c> [9/8 @ 18:28] (0/0)
The Fall of Gandalf..... <beren_boy> [9/8 @ 13:15] (1/1)

You got that right <Glaze> [9/8 @ 17:23] (0/0)

Frodo makes me cry throughout the final chapters in Mordor <Dryhten> [9/8 @ 12:38] (1/1)

Yes, and he goes into the "No feel of wind, ... <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/8 @ 13:03] (0/0)

You know it <Tharangil> [9/8 @ 11:29] (0/0)
I can't make it through The Grey Havens <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 11:17] (2/2)

that last reunion <FattyLumpkin79> [9/8 @ 20:31] (0/0)
Alas, nor can I <Nimfalma Took> [9/8 @ 12:49] (0/0)

hmmm... nope <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/8 @ 10:39] (0/0)

Beorn Problem <A man> [9/8 @ 9:27] (5/32)

Since I have read Professor Shippey's book... <Glaze> [9/8 @ 17:36] (1/1)

Correct. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 19:40] (0/0)

beorn is a berserker <Dryhten> [9/8 @ 12:43] (2/2)

The shape-shifter is also well-attested in Scandinavian lore. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 19:31] (0/0)
cool stuff (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/8 @ 17:30] (0/0)

More mysterious because we know so little <L�mion> [9/8 @ 9:45] (3/10)

I was just reading about the Rohirrim in TTT... <Rohwen> [9/8 @ 16:53] (0/0)
Some of Beorn's sons took part in the War of the Ring <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 11:20] (1/7)

Maiar can have descendants <L�mion> [9/8 @ 11:37] (2/6)

She is the exception <Watson> [9/8 @ 13:20] (2/3)

Where does it say Melian is the 'exception'? <L�mion> [9/10 @ 1:13] (0/0)
Giant spiders <Buckshee > [9/9 @ 6:03] (1/1)

Tolkien never says what exactly Ungoliant was <NZ Strider> [9/9 @ 11:10] (0/0)

Not sure about Beorn's parents <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 11:47] (1/1)

Beorn's wife, a regular bear? <L�mion> [9/8 @ 11:55] (0/0)

A good theory. (No Text) <Ufthak> [9/8 @ 10:40] (0/0)

First, "beorn" in Anglo-Saxon <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 9:40] (0/0)
My utterly Unsupported Theory of the day... <Reverend> [9/8 @ 9:40] (2/14)

and mr bean begets beorn (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/8 @ 12:26] (0/0)
If he is <Draupne> [9/8 @ 10:02] (2/12)

I would guess.... <Reverend> [9/8 @ 10:15] (1/9)

OK, you lost me on the last bit. <Ufthak> [9/8 @ 10:37] (2/8)

How soon they forget <Reverend> [9/8 @ 12:54] (4/6)

Wow. I'll never look at Radagast in the same way again. (No Text) <Ataahua> [9/9 @ 0:20] (0/0)
Enough about me... <Simple_Radagast> [9/8 @ 18:30] (1/1)

Did Mauna Tiki Tia... <Reverend> [9/8 @ 18:41] (0/0)

I knew I could count on you for that link, Reverend (No Text) <Entmaiden> [9/8 @ 17:19] (0/0)
so Tolkien chose the name on purpose <Arador> [9/8 @ 17:17] (1/1)

Note that... <Reverend> [9/9 @ 6:47] (0/0)

I believe it's a reality thing <Tauriel> [9/8 @ 10:44] (0/0)

or the other bears might be his children? (No Text) <Eliadora> [9/8 @ 10:12] (1/1)

Radagast's influence <A man> [9/8 @ 11:04] (0/0)

Strange what if (happened in a dream) <Raain> [9/8 @ 9:08] (6/9)

Mask as another thing, you mean? <SauronLover> [9/9 @ 9:35] (0/0)
creepy... <Astaldo> [9/8 @ 11:26] (1/2)

on second thought... <Astaldo> [9/8 @ 11:41] (1/1)

Nay, I was in fact working on my novel <Raain> [9/8 @ 18:49] (0/0)

This may be a silly question, but... <The Lady of the Woods> [9/8 @ 10:14] (0/0)
Thrilling thought <Celebear> [9/8 @ 9:58] (0/0)
"Other evils there are that may come; <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 9:45] (0/0)
How did you feel during the dream? <Curious> [9/8 @ 9:13] (1/1)

Well, honestly I felt <Raain> [9/8 @ 18:52] (0/0)

dwarfs, where are they <harly> [9/8 @ 8:50] (3/3)

Read the Appendix to ROTK.... <SonofElrond> [9/8 @ 21:54] (0/0)
Good old Dain Ironfoot... <Reverend> [9/8 @ 9:24] (0/0)
They take part in battles <Curious> [9/8 @ 9:10] (0/0)

Barad-dur <bilbojohnstone> [9/8 @ 5:51] (2/4)

The Tower was destroyed but the foundations remained <L�mion> [9/8 @ 9:36] (0/0)
As I understand it.... <Reverend> [9/8 @ 7:43] (1/2)

I don't recall the tower or walls falling <Curious> [9/8 @ 9:17] (1/1)

the key word here is "toying" <Reverend> [9/8 @ 9:27] (0/0)

Boramir's 110 day Trek <Luthien's Mama> [9/7 @ 20:40] (5/10)

Brings me to another question <Faramira> [9/8 @ 20:59] (0/0)
I agree! <Curious> [9/8 @ 6:09] (0/0)
As Nimrodel says, Boromir probably was lost <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 22:47] (4/4)

Good clues <notlost> [9/8 @ 7:43] (0/0)
Lovely! <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/8 @ 5:26] (0/0)
That was great .... thanks. <Luthien's Mama> [9/8 @ 5:11] (0/0)
wow thanks for the analysis <Arador> [9/7 @ 22:53] (0/0)

i guess it could <Ehtemir> [9/7 @ 22:19] (0/0)
The text pretty much explains it, doesn't it? <Nimrodel > [9/7 @ 21:04] (1/1)

Not necessarily. It depends what kind <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 21:59] (0/0)

is sam black? (my friend's theory) <scullysnecklace> [9/7 @ 14:35] (7/19)

mebey he has a brown hand because.... <Elf maiden of Rivendell> [9/8 @ 13:22] (0/0)
thanks! <scullysnecklace> [9/7 @ 18:46] (1/1)

Note that the blonde hair of <Curious> [9/8 @ 9:04] (0/0)

I think your friend <Leto> [9/7 @ 18:01] (1/3)

Well, he *is* a friend <esiwmas> [9/7 @ 18:20] (1/2)

For some understanding of Sam... <Nimrodel > [9/7 @ 18:36] (1/1)

Thanks! <esiwmas> [9/7 @ 19:25] (0/0)

Also "The Harfoots <Curious> [9/7 @ 15:28] (1/1)

"Fallowhide", on the other hand... <Reverend> [9/7 @ 19:53] (0/0)

I think Tolkien used the image of Sam's brown hand <Entmaiden> [9/7 @ 15:15] (1/5)

In fact, tanned skin (far from being "in") <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 16:06] (1/4)

I still don't get the "attractive tanned" thing <Ufthak> [9/8 @ 4:40] (1/3)

wow! do you want my number?! <Ri elwen> [9/8 @ 9:14] (1/2)

Mmm... I'm in a different country. <Ufthak> [9/8 @ 10:20] (1/1)

sorry--don't take everything i say seriously. just being facetious (No Text) <Ri elwen> [9/8 @ 17:35] (0/0)

Show her... <Reverend> [9/7 @ 15:09] (0/0)
For a start.......... <beren_boy> [9/7 @ 14:41] (1/2)

yes <scullysnecklace> [9/7 @ 14:43] (1/1)

Well, <Curious> [9/7 @ 14:47] (0/0)

Opinions needed! (And I know you've got 'em! ;-D) <Gilian Serind�> [9/7 @ 12:33] (3/9)

Thingol:blonde Beren : Dark (No Text) <Elf maiden of Rivendell> [9/8 @ 13:23] (1/1)

huh? why do people think Thingol's blonde? <Arador> [9/8 @ 17:10] (0/0)

Thingol: Blonde, Beren: Dark. <Reverend> [9/7 @ 15:03] (0/0)
Re. Opinions need! <Brittni> [9/7 @ 12:56] (1/5)

Opinion....... <beren_boy> [9/7 @ 14:36] (1/4)

Thanks, all! I appreciate the input. Reverend, do you know where those descriptions might be? (No Text) <Gilian Serind�> [9/7 @ 17:59] (1/3)

The Hobbit p 152... <Reverend> [9/7 @ 19:48] (1/2)

Thingol is Thranduil? That's really odd. <Arador> [9/7 @ 20:31] (1/1)

Ahhh! Brainlock! <Reverend> [9/8 @ 2:10] (0/0)

Why are there so few mothers in LOTR <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/7 @ 5:29] (5/13)

Broken families... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/7 @ 22:36] (0/0)
a question on orcs. <BruisedLee> [9/7 @ 9:59] (1/2)

"after the manner of the Children of Illuvatar" <Reverend> [9/7 @ 10:07] (1/1)

Possibly better to show........ <beren_boy> [9/7 @ 14:33] (0/0)

A paucity of mothers implies also <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 9:31] (2/3)

Mrs Cotton and Mrs Maggot too (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/7 @ 22:30] (0/0)
with regard to the wartime years <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/7 @ 9:51] (1/1)

The end of WWII also was credited with <Entmaiden> [9/7 @ 15:07] (0/0)

We could add Ioreth... <Reverend> [9/7 @ 8:28] (1/3)

a few more <Ehtemir> [9/7 @ 11:28] (1/2)

I suppose ... <Reverend> [9/7 @ 13:53] (1/1)

just to be fair (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/7 @ 17:24] (0/0)

Galadriel, too. Also Shelob! <Curious> [9/7 @ 7:34] (0/0)

sorry if this isnt allowed <bilbojohnstone> [9/7 @ 4:08] (3/3)

Two (unfinished) versions of the "Lay of the Children of H�rin" <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 9:35] (0/0)
Narn i Hurin <Reverend> [9/7 @ 4:37] (0/0)
As for your first question... <Nimrodel > [9/7 @ 4:29] (0/0)

A really stupid question <A man> [9/6 @ 20:55] (4/11)

Hmmm... <PhantomS> [9/7 @ 7:08] (0/0)
I believe that you'd run into ... <Reverend> [9/7 @ 2:24] (1/1)

Here it is <Reverend> [9/7 @ 8:03] (0/0)

Interesting question; alas it's also one of those questions <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 21:20] (1/5)

what was he thinking?! <Ri elwen> [9/7 @ 13:30] (1/4)

Well, considering how many things <NZ Strider> [9/7 @ 16:11] (1/3)

well, i know... <Ri elwen> [9/8 @ 9:11] (1/2)

I understood -- no worries! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/8 @ 9:52] (1/1)

haha!! "no worries!" are you really new zealandish? (what a funny phrase) (No Text) <Ri elwen> [9/8 @ 17:32] (0/0)

I don't have an answer ^^;; but I must say, not a stupid question, but a very thought-provoking one (No Text) <Caitie-the-Slightly-Ecru> [9/6 @ 21:05] (1/1)

Thank you <A man> [9/7 @ 10:04] (0/0)

Can Anyone Translate this? <ElfLordNick> [9/6 @ 14:32] (1/1)

my attempt... <Nemain> [9/6 @ 18:18] (0/0)

How do you solve a problem like �owyn? <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 12:51] (12/38)

I agree with Morwen. <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 18:53] (0/0)
I see the transformation seems to relate to the Valkyries and the Queens of Irish Mythos. <Nemain> [9/6 @ 17:29] (2/2)

good lord! I need to study my mythology! (No Text) <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 19:09] (0/0)
True! <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:47] (0/0)

Heck, if *I* was marrying Faramir... <Nimrodel > [9/6 @ 16:57] (4/5)

I agree, and Faramir is a great <sherlock> [9/7 @ 9:16] (0/0)
exactly <Arador> [9/6 @ 19:54] (1/1)

Sense of humour <Faramira> [9/8 @ 21:10] (0/0)

me too, I have to agree (No Text) <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 19:09] (0/0)
Ha ha, have to concur. <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 17:12] (0/0)

I think she is sincere in her words <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 15:51] (0/0)
I buy it.. <Eruviell> [9/6 @ 15:39] (0/0)
No exact passages, but thoughts <Nimfalma Took> [9/6 @ 15:29] (0/0)
*dives for the book shelf and flips ROTK open* <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/6 @ 13:59] (2/3)

I agree, Julie otpe <Entmaiden> [9/6 @ 20:20] (0/0)
Yay for closure! <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 16:50] (1/1)

I'll drink to that! (No Text) <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 19:10] (0/0)

Tolkien said, when: <Curious> [9/6 @ 13:44] (1/1)

I'm not necessarily suggesting <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 13:50] (0/0)

At first pass ... <Luthien's Mama> [9/6 @ 13:37] (1/2)

To me, that line sounds like <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 13:39] (1/1)

Agreed ... the statement felt odd coming from <Luthien's Mama> [9/6 @ 13:44] (0/0)

It's the wonder of love - true love. <Ataahua> [9/6 @ 13:18] (1/6)

Hmmm <Dryhten> [9/6 @ 16:30] (1/5)

I don't think we saw the real Eowyn in Rohan. <Ataahua> [9/6 @ 16:47] (1/4)

I agree with both of you. <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 17:04] (2/3)

I liked your link <Merryk> [9/6 @ 19:52] (0/0)
"The gentler cage of marriage to Faramir"??? <Ataahua> [9/6 @ 17:46] (1/1)

don't agree with the essay in general <Arador> [9/6 @ 19:52] (0/0)

Actually, I do buy it. <Morwen> [9/6 @ 13:16] (2/4)

I see it more or less the same as you -- two comments: <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 14:24] (1/2)

Agreed, with two more comments. <Reverend> [9/6 @ 15:00] (1/1)

Agreed, all of you! <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:16] (0/0)

Me too <Tauriel> [9/6 @ 13:28] (0/0)

Well to be honest <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/6 @ 13:14] (1/3)

That's an easy answer! <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 13:41] (1/2)

60 kg <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/6 @ 13:56] (1/1)

how passionate do you want them to get? <Arador> [9/7 @ 21:00] (0/0)

Need info on the book. <Trina Casey> [9/6 @ 11:49] (1/2)

flets (No Text) <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:51] (1/1)

And the Elvish word is "talan" <Tauriel> [9/6 @ 13:22] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 2 � Fireside Tales. <Curious> [9/6 @ 8:52] (11/36)

Sam's comment about "hearing queer things these days..." interested me. What does he say that then retorts Ted's following remark. <Nemain> [9/6 @ 17:40] (0/0)
It's the Fool who tells the truth... <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:14] (3/7)

Yes, and don't forget the tradition of histories handed down orally <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/8 @ 13:46] (0/0)
excellent synthesis <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 19:12] (1/1)

Agreed... <notlost> [9/7 @ 14:58] (0/0)

I'm afraid <Curious> [9/6 @ 19:07] (1/3)

Darn it, Curious, <notlost> [9/7 @ 14:55] (1/2)

I like NPR too-am I to understand <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/8 @ 13:52] (1/1)

Here's a link <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:45] (0/0)

"Mad Baggins" strikes me as a tall tale <Kiskadee> [9/6 @ 15:26] (1/2)

Did you forget the link? <Curious> [9/6 @ 15:30] (1/1)

Apparently so, sorry. <Kiskadee> [9/6 @ 19:00] (0/0)

"And he lived happily ever after..." <Nimfalma Took> [9/6 @ 14:27] (1/1)

Interestingly, Tolkien <Curious> [9/6 @ 15:44] (0/0)

It is, as you say, a literary conceit <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 13:23] (1/1)

Good one! <Curious> [9/6 @ 13:47] (0/0)

old-wives remember long those things the wise once deemed useful <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 11:40] (1/2)

Yes, and <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:49] (1/1)

oh absolutely <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 12:49] (0/0)

Myths are lies? <Hama of Rohan> [9/6 @ 11:13] (2/2)

Exactly, Tolkien was emphatic that there were "true myths" <Blue Wizard> [9/6 @ 17:19] (0/0)
Isn't it interesting <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:27] (0/0)

Tolkien believed there was truth . . . <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 10:49] (2/6)

I like these quotes <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:03] (1/1)

Perhaps he's also referencing those that can't accept religious faith <mallorn_woodsnake> [9/8 @ 14:00] (0/0)

psst, Hrothgar ... <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 10:58] (1/3)

Here's hoping for straight. (No Text) <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 11:18] (1/2)

Really? <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 11:22] (1/1)

I thought you would disagree. Should we start a new thread? (No Text) <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 11:24] (0/0)

Wait! Waaaaiiiittt! <huorn> [9/6 @ 10:34] (1/1)

See? <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:39] (0/0)

I read somewhere, "Myths are stories <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 10:19] (1/1)

I had no <Curious> [9/6 @ 12:23] (0/0)

mmm...well... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/6 @ 10:15] (1/2)

Yes, Virginia, <Curious> [9/6 @ 12:25] (1/1)

No, I guess.. <cabbage'n'taters> [9/7 @ 7:46] (0/0)

FotR: The Shadow of the Past, part 1 � Pronunciation of Names. <Curious> [9/6 @ 8:02] (14/43)

As Tauriel said, being Scandinavian made it easier ;-) <Draupne> [9/8 @ 9:46] (1/1)

Excellent point <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:34] (0/0)

I'm afraid my pronunciation has a western American twang... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/8 @ 5:20] (0/0)
An interesting note on pronunciations. <RosieLass> [9/7 @ 15:09] (0/0)
I am reminded of Richard Taylor's discussion of culture <Leto> [9/6 @ 18:52] (0/0)
#3 and 4 <Eruviell> [9/6 @ 15:52] (1/1)

I learned my pronunciations from Rankin-Bass <Dryhten> [9/6 @ 16:35] (0/0)

Your post brings out <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 13:10] (1/3)

I just read <Curious> [9/6 @ 13:54] (1/2)

*snert* Quite right, by the way: <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 14:06] (1/1)

Ha! <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:22] (0/0)

Excellent summation. <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 10:09] (4/12)

Smeagol comes from the word Smeah OE for "penetrating, creeping" <Nemain> [9/6 @ 18:03] (1/3)

Related to Smaug?? <Reverend> [9/8 @ 2:12] (1/2)

Probably yes <Draupne> [9/8 @ 9:42] (1/1)

Very <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:37] (0/0)

It looks Germanic <Dryhten> [9/6 @ 16:42] (0/0)
French Pronun. <shadow baggins> [9/6 @ 12:59] (2/3)

Elen s�la l�menn' omentielvo! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 13:13] (1/1)

Maybe in NZ, <Curious> [9/6 @ 14:02] (0/0)

Well, welcome to the boards! <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 13:06] (0/0)

Not sure about "uncultured" <Lacrimae Rerum> [9/6 @ 10:37] (2/2)

Interesting. <Curious> [9/6 @ 10:46] (0/0)
Ya nailed it! <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 10:40] (0/0)

Thanks for the pronounciation tips. <sherlock> [9/6 @ 9:57] (1/3)

I would love <Curious> [9/6 @ 12:33] (1/2)

First time I read it to my boyfriend <sherlock> [9/7 @ 4:34] (1/1)

What a guy! <Curious> [9/9 @ 5:36] (0/0)

mispronounced for a long time. <greenleafphf> [9/6 @ 9:37] (1/1)

I think <Curious> [9/6 @ 12:31] (0/0)

I really care about pronunciation <Tauriel> [9/6 @ 9:36] (1/1)

I'll give that <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:16] (0/0)

Midwestern U.S. pronunciation here <Scout B> [9/6 @ 9:30] (1/1)

I'm still stuck on Smee-a-gol! (No Text) <greenleafphf> [9/6 @ 9:38] (0/0)

no corrections, and that's the problem <Ehtemir> [9/6 @ 8:59] (1/1)

Trilled Rs... <Scout B> [9/6 @ 10:03] (0/0)

pronunciation <bilbojohnstone> [9/6 @ 8:40] (2/3)

I was a (dino)SAURon, too. <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 10:56] (1/1)

Kirith in the map <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:10] (0/0)

Welcome! And thanks <Curious> [9/6 @ 8:45] (0/0)

I was shamed... <Reverend> [9/6 @ 8:21] (1/2)

Valar pronounciation <A man> [9/6 @ 11:23] (1/1)

"Eh," at least <Curious> [9/6 @ 12:28] (0/0)

FotR: Chapter One: A Long Expected Party-- Let me sum up. <Inferno> [9/6 @ 7:37] (19/19)

Thanks, Inferno :-) (No Text) <Draupne> [9/8 @ 9:54] (0/0)
Thanks, Inferno! <Aunt Dora Baggins> [9/8 @ 5:12] (0/0)
Thank you Inferno (No Text) <Leto> [9/6 @ 18:49] (0/0)
Lovely synopsis, Inferno--many thanks! (No Text) <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:23] (0/0)
Enjoyed this discussion much! Thanks again. (No Text) <Nimfalma Took> [9/6 @ 16:08] (0/0)
Learned alot, Thank you (No Text) <Shelob the Red> [9/6 @ 12:45] (0/0)
Thank you, Inferno! Well-done! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 12:38] (0/0)
Thank you, Inferno! Promising start :) (No Text) <Galathien> [9/6 @ 11:34] (0/0)
Excellent job, Inferno! (No Text) <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 10:58] (0/0)
Thanks, Inferno! <Entmaiden> [9/6 @ 10:46] (0/0)
Thanks, Inferno, for kicking us off to a great start <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 10:02] (0/0)
Thanks Inferno! That was a great start! (No Text) <Tauriel> [9/6 @ 9:55] (0/0)
many thanx... <Froda> [9/6 @ 9:48] (0/0)
Thanks for starting us off, oh learned flame! <Patty> [9/6 @ 9:41] (0/0)
Thanks, Inferno! Great discussion. <Morwen> [9/6 @ 9:38] (0/0)
From a sundry:� Brilliantly done. <lumpkin> [9/6 @ 9:28] (0/0)
Thank you Inferno - superbly done! <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/6 @ 8:53] (0/0)
Thanks Inferno, great start. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/6 @ 8:31] (0/0)
Nicely done. Thank you, Inferno! <Curious> [9/6 @ 7:54] (0/0)

a small question that's been nagging at me . . . <Annael> [9/6 @ 7:04] (4/7)

This is answered in the text... <Reverend> [9/6 @ 8:05] (1/1)

you just had to throw in that last part, didn't ya? <vedhed> [9/6 @ 8:50] (0/0)

Remember Tolkien was Roman Catholic. <Curious> [9/6 @ 7:45] (0/0)
I suspect for the same reason <Blue Wizard> [9/6 @ 7:23] (0/0)
The female is the more powerful gender... <Patty> [9/6 @ 7:22] (1/2)

a poem about this: (No Text - Link Inside) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/6 @ 8:08] (1/1)

I knew this was going to be <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 12:36] (0/0)

FotR: Chapter One: A Long Expected Party-- Open Forum <Inferno> [9/6 @ 6:31] (1/12)

OK. A comment and some questions. <Curious> [9/6 @ 7:36] (5/11)

Drowning <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:35] (1/2)

I think you have something! <Curious> [9/6 @ 19:01] (1/1)

Waiting with baited breath... <notlost> [9/7 @ 15:01] (0/0)

Brief comment <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 12:32] (0/0)
Why would the *enemy* have wanted Frodo to come to Bag End? <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 11:18] (1/2)

Well, <Curious> [9/6 @ 11:34] (1/1)

And an interesting one! <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 12:31] (0/0)

The Old Took <huorn> [9/6 @ 8:19] (0/0)
Regarding the drowning. <Inferno> [9/6 @ 7:48] (2/2)

I looked at the drowning <Entmaiden> [9/7 @ 17:59] (0/0)
And Tolkien's.. <cabbage'n'taters> [9/6 @ 8:40] (0/0)

why is the film not like the book? <Laila> [9/6 @ 1:43] (7/15)

Ever heard the word SACRILEGE? <Draupne> [9/8 @ 9:56] (0/0)
because it's how Peter Jackson sees the book <Annael> [9/6 @ 8:15] (0/0)
Some questions to ponder: <Lottelita> [9/6 @ 7:40] (0/0)
Watson said it perfectly, but I'll� just add... <Nimrodel > [9/6 @ 7:11] (1/5)

I don't think she's talking about the chase... <huorn> [9/6 @ 7:16] (1/4)

*shrug* well, you can't separate the scenes. (No Text) <Nimrodel > [9/6 @ 7:20] (1/3)

sure you can... <huorn> [9/6 @ 7:31] (1/2)

The whole point... <Nimrodel > [9/6 @ 7:58] (1/1)

ah.. true true (No Text) <huorn> [9/6 @ 9:06] (0/0)

not all changes are bad <Froda> [9/6 @ 5:52] (0/0)
Finding rationales. <septembrist> [9/6 @ 4:37] (0/0)
You've really answered your own question. <Ataahua> [9/6 @ 1:49] (2/3)

I know, but still.. <Laila> [9/6 @ 2:14] (1/1)

That is one of the biggest challenges... <Watson> [9/6 @ 5:27] (0/0)

haha! <BruisedLee> [9/6 @ 2:11] (0/0)

Sorry if I'm sounding ignorant again, but <Caitie-the-Slightly-Ecru> [9/5 @ 18:56] (1/1)

It's available at Amazon. <Atlas> [9/5 @ 23:16] (0/0)

??'s re: Elrond and the relationship between Arwen and Aragorn <Luthien's Mama> [9/5 @ 17:27] (4/19)

But it created a conflict for Elrond . . . <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 11:39] (0/0)
The word Elrond uses is "grieved" <Morwen> [9/5 @ 19:38] (2/3)

remember too that Elrond had been through this before . . . <Annael> [9/6 @ 7:01] (0/0)
Thanks ... <Luthien's Mama> [9/5 @ 19:45] (1/1)

It's a great story <Morwen> [9/5 @ 20:08] (0/0)

it's in the appendices <Julie of the pointed ears> [9/5 @ 17:44] (1/6)

i agree that Elrond wasn't mad <Eliadora> [9/5 @ 17:56] (1/5)

We don't meet Elrond in the movie. <Reverend> [9/5 @ 19:21] (2/4)

I strongly disagree... <Nimrodel > [9/6 @ 7:18] (1/2)

This was not really Weaving's fault but... <Dryhten> [9/6 @ 12:08] (1/1)

Which... <Reverend> [9/6 @ 13:47] (0/0)

At least... <Atlas> [9/5 @ 20:49] (0/0)

Here's what I think: <Lady Greenarcher> [9/5 @ 17:37] (3/6)

I only wrote the related part because my friend <Lady Greenarcher> [9/6 @ 14:51] (0/0)
Please don't saw ewww... <Nimrodel > [9/6 @ 7:24] (0/0)
You know I thought they were related ... <Luthien's Mama> [9/5 @ 17:43] (2/3)

Technically....not really <PhantomS> [9/7 @ 6:58] (0/0)
Not at sixty-odd generations it shouldn't (No Text) <Reverend> [9/5 @ 19:18] (1/1)

Indeed not <Tauriel> [9/6 @ 7:06] (0/0)

What exactly happened to Pippin when he looked into the palantir? <Seillib> [9/5 @ 15:52] (3/5)

i think that <Eliadora> [9/5 @ 18:03] (0/0)
The quote and my piont <Galathien> [9/5 @ 16:19] (0/0)
When Pippin looked into the Palant�r, <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 16:10] (1/2)

To look into the Palantir was to come into intimate contact with Sauron <Uitlander> [9/6 @ 7:29] (1/1)

Since Aragorn planned to keep using the stone after the war <Narin Redpike> [9/7 @ 20:54] (0/0)

Hobbits, Elves and Wizards. ( Has anyone read this?) <NoneOfTheAbove> [9/5 @ 15:33] (2/4)

I've read it. <Hrothgar> [9/6 @ 11:23] (1/1)

I agree <NoneOfTheAbove> [9/6 @ 16:57] (0/0)

i still recommend you read the silmarillion (No Text) <Ehtemir> [9/5 @ 17:18] (1/1)

Will do. (No Text) <NoneOfTheAbove> [9/5 @ 19:45] (0/0)

On the Valar's dithering and inability to get anything done <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 14:20] (9/34)

My thanks to all the contributors -- who turned a bit of a joke into a great thread! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 14:09] (0/0)
v. witty! but... <Froda> [9/6 @ 5:45] (1/1)

"Mr. Bean" wasn't my idea -- Acathalion came up with <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 13:35] (0/0)

How boring it would be if the gods <Leto> [9/6 @ 5:06] (0/0)
They really didn't understand... <cabbage'n'taters> [9/5 @ 20:53] (0/0)
I perceived the Valar to be proactive <Entmaiden> [9/5 @ 19:04] (0/0)
Another way of looking at it <Lotheriel> [9/5 @ 17:27] (3/4)

Nicely reasoned. <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 13:31] (0/0)
Very nicely put! <Curious> [9/6 @ 9:51] (1/1)

No, but Illuvatar was subtle from the beginning. <Lotheriel> [9/6 @ 17:26] (0/0)

Interesting, nice analogy (No Text) <sundering_c> [9/6 @ 8:55] (0/0)

This sounds like my husband's opinion <Watson> [9/5 @ 15:15] (2/6)

It may also be <sundering_c> [9/5 @ 16:38] (1/2)

Hmm... <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 16:51] (1/1)

Well... <sundering_c> [9/6 @ 8:44] (0/0)

It may well be that the Valar <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 15:58] (1/2)

Can't say as I blame him <Watson> [9/5 @ 16:40] (1/1)

But the gods of Greece <sundering_c> [9/6 @ 8:52] (0/0)

Feanor's expressed opinion here... <Reverend> [9/5 @ 15:05] (2/10)

(Also directed at Curious) Yes, precisely -- F�anor <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 15:46] (1/7)

I only find Feanor unbelievable because <Curious> [9/5 @ 20:20] (1/6)

I hardly think so. <Silverlode> [9/5 @ 20:54] (1/5)

Well, <Curious> [9/6 @ 4:14] (2/4)

I'm not saying... <Silverlode> [9/6 @ 15:03] (0/0)
I believe... <Reverend> [9/6 @ 5:22] (2/2)

Great thread (No Text) <sundering_c> [9/6 @ 8:49] (0/0)
Yep. <Curious> [9/6 @ 6:19] (0/0)

Feanor and Morgoth may express our <Curious> [9/5 @ 15:43] (1/1)

But the Alternative Does Have a Point <Lotheriel> [9/5 @ 17:05] (0/0)

As you may know, <Curious> [9/5 @ 14:34] (1/4)

I too am only joking about this! <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 14:41] (1/3)

OK. <Curious> [9/5 @ 14:43] (1/2)

Valar's lack of faith <A man> [9/6 @ 11:55] (1/1)

This is treated at some length in "Morgoth's Ring" <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 14:12] (0/0)

Shakespeare's silly songs. <Curious> [9/5 @ 14:07] (6/8)

Well done! <notlost> [9/6 @ 17:44] (0/0)
Maybe Tom is really Shakespeare. (No Text) <cabbage'n'taters> [9/6 @ 8:24] (0/0)
I should have put silly in quotes. <Curious> [9/6 @ 6:28] (1/1)

Maybe silly is the right word after all... <eavesdropper> [9/6 @ 7:13] (0/0)

None of it is silly! <eavesdropper> [9/6 @ 6:14] (0/0)
I think there's a difference between "silly" and "stylistically different" <Thevina Finduilas> [9/6 @ 5:01] (0/0)
Quite apposite. <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 14:17] (1/1)

Yes, many of the Mother Goose <Curious> [9/5 @ 14:42] (0/0)

TTT (sorry if I'm late) <InterstellarPixie> [9/5 @ 9:46] (2/14)

It's a publisher's blurb. <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 16:38] (1/6)

And which version do you prefer? (No Text) <Galathien> [9/5 @ 17:28] (1/5)

I waver between <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 17:48] (1/4)

I have seen the White Tower... <Moriel> [9/5 @ 20:36] (2/3)

Just a question <Jus> [9/6 @ 13:45] (1/1)

Minas Tirith is the name <NZ Strider> [9/6 @ 15:44] (0/0)

Interesting point! :) (No Text) <Galathien> [9/6 @ 11:09] (0/0)

Where did you find it? <Tauriel> [9/5 @ 11:22] (1/6)

It's at the end of FotR. <Curious> [9/5 @ 11:34] (2/5)

It's in three of my editions <Moriel> [9/5 @ 16:08] (0/0)
Ah! It's not in mine... <Tauriel> [9/5 @ 12:51] (1/3)

It's not in mine either <Galathien> [9/5 @ 14:56] (1/2)

I thought those were the towers as well <Tauriel> [9/5 @ 15:04] (1/1)

It goes the same with me <Galathien> [9/5 @ 15:19] (0/0)

FotR: Chapter One: A Long Expected Party-- Gifts <Inferno> [9/5 @ 7:28] (9/15)

To comment on your last question <Leto> [9/5 @ 18:21] (0/0)
One brief additional note on the "humorous" gifts <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 16:19] (0/0)
In defense of hobbits, and Book II parallel. <Curious> [9/5 @ 13:01] (1/1)

very good point :) (No Text) <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/5 @ 13:20] (0/0)

gift-giving and generosity <greenleafphf> [9/5 @ 12:22] (0/0)
Bilbo had always been very generous <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/5 @ 12:06] (0/0)
Contrast with the Ring <Morwen> [9/5 @ 11:57] (0/0)
Presenting: Bilbo the Generous <Nimfalma Took> [9/5 @ 11:53] (0/0)
The purpose of the gift giving <Tauriel> [9/5 @ 11:05] (0/0)
Well, it didn't make it harder. <Curious> [9/5 @ 8:51] (1/5)

Bilbos trips and money <Moriel> [9/5 @ 9:42] (1/4)

Don't you think <Curious> [9/5 @ 10:01] (3/3)

I agree with Eowyn_S <Moriel> [9/5 @ 15:56] (0/0)
I imagine he knew OF him <Eowyn_Shieldmaiden> [9/5 @ 12:09] (0/0)
And we know that <Lottelita> [9/5 @ 10:35] (0/0)

FotR: Chapter One: A Long Expected Party-- Three Dwarves <Inferno> [9/5 @ 7:23] (13/26)

There are four dwarves... <Atlas> [9/5 @ 23:10] (0/0)
Gloin too is ruled out <NZ Strider> [9/5 @ 15:37] (2/5)

Somewhere I got the impression that Frodo had met at least Balin? (No Text) <RosieLass> [9/5 @ 17:35] (1/3)