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The Choices of Master Samwise #8: Decisions, Decisions <notlost> [7/15 @ 18:25] (8/11)

I love that poem. <Princess of Geekland> [7/18 @ 13:30] (0/0)
heart over head <nerdanel50> [7/16 @ 11:19] (1/1)

You said it all, really. (No Text) <Princess of Geekland> [7/18 @ 13:31] (0/0)

I judge that this is just Sam, reluctant <Curious> [7/16 @ 1:06] (1/1)

Amen. (No Text) <Reverend> [7/16 @ 10:36] (0/0)

Mission First! <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/15 @ 23:30] (0/0)
my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/15 @ 22:18] (0/0)
*sniff* Yes, a debate between his heart and head. <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 20:14] (0/0)
"...Nor bid the stars farewell..." <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/15 @ 18:44] (1/1)

Frodo spent several days making his decision <erather> [7/15 @ 19:30] (0/0)

Sam's pity (well, pity with a big whacking stick...) <drogo_drogo> [7/15 @ 18:34] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #7: The Great Debate <notlost> [7/15 @ 18:19] (12/30)

Perhaps <Arod the Swift> [7/17 @ 0:28] (0/0)
I don't have much to add to <Princess of Geekland> [7/16 @ 16:07] (1/10)

I find it odd... <Cressida> [7/16 @ 17:09] (1/9)

He is not at fault, but he is wrong. <Curious> [7/16 @ 17:37] (2/8)

Maybe we mean "mistaken" <Princess of Geekland> [7/18 @ 12:01] (0/0)
I guess when the word "wrong" is used... <Cressida> [7/16 @ 17:58] (1/6)

Don't mistake <Curious> [7/16 @ 19:10] (1/5)

I was commenting on the letter... <Cressida> [7/16 @ 22:44] (1/4)

I am not aware <Curious> [7/16 @ 22:51] (1/3)

I promise to look it up; I don't <Princess of Geekland> [7/18 @ 12:02] (1/2)

*egg dripping off tiara* <Princess of Geekland> [7/18 @ 21:48] (1/1)

An <Curious> [7/19 @ 0:01] (0/0)

the end of the world <nerdanel50> [7/16 @ 10:54] (0/0)
My thoughts <Kimi> [7/16 @ 1:39] (0/0)
I have been fortunate. <Curious> [7/16 @ 0:53] (2/4)

"turns out for the best?" <Merryk> [7/16 @ 9:18] (1/2)

God permits free will. <Curious> [7/16 @ 11:19] (1/1)

This is what makes <spencer> [7/16 @ 13:00] (0/0)

would he have <hatster> [7/16 @ 6:43] (0/0)

The thing that nobody's said yet <Merryk> [7/15 @ 23:58] (2/3)

What Frodo wanted <spencer> [7/16 @ 13:05] (0/0)
Conceal the body <Trixie Hobbit> [7/16 @ 8:25] (1/1)

Take the body and run <Merryk> [7/16 @ 10:44] (0/0)

internalizing the absent <hatster> [7/15 @ 21:39] (0/0)
Obla-di, Obla-da <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 19:52] (0/0)
Sam is profoundly, desperately lonely. <erather> [7/15 @ 18:49] (1/1)

Wow, Erather... <notlost> [7/15 @ 19:02] (0/0)

A time in every Hobbit's life... <Narsil Anduril> [7/15 @ 18:46] (0/0)
Poor Sam.... <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/15 @ 18:38] (0/0)
quick thoughts <drogo_drogo> [7/15 @ 18:27] (0/0)

reading beyond lotr <shady100> [7/15 @ 13:52] (1/6)

You should the read the Hobbit. <WhiteAslan> [7/15 @ 14:12] (1/5)

and.... <beren_boy> [7/15 @ 17:47] (1/4)

Great Stories in Unfinished Tales <Alveric> [7/15 @ 18:05] (1/3)

for books outside lotr i suggest <HumanHobbit1> [7/16 @ 21:03] (1/2)

or <beren_boy> [7/17 @ 17:41] (1/1)

Quintet now <Alveric> [7/17 @ 18:23] (0/0)

Bill and Ted moment while reading LOTR <Captains of Gondolin> [7/15 @ 12:13] (7/11)

Hilarious! Long live Ted of San Dimas! (No Text) <Fountain_head> [7/16 @ 12:38] (0/0)
Tolkien's original draft <kodax> [7/16 @ 1:16] (1/1)

LOL! good one (No Text) <gullygilly> [7/16 @ 8:28] (0/0)

"Bill. there are strange things afoot.... " lol (No Text) <WhiteLadyEowyn> [7/15 @ 20:01] (0/0)
Keanu Reeves as Saruman, now I can't get that image out of my head! :) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [7/15 @ 18:58] (1/1)

Whoa! (No Text) <notlost> [7/15 @ 19:04] (0/0)

That's funny. <WhiteAslan> [7/15 @ 14:05] (0/0)
I had a moment with the word 'Puissant' <Seillib> [7/15 @ 13:08] (1/1)

*snert* (No Text) <WhiteAslan> [7/15 @ 14:03] (0/0)

Haha! <piccolo> [7/15 @ 12:35] (1/1)

bill and ted... <LorienEvenstar> [7/15 @ 21:52] (0/0)

Old English <�owyn Turmavende> [7/15 @ 11:00] (2/9)

It's two syllables. <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 14:31] (1/3)

And again.... <Suni> [7/15 @ 17:46] (1/2)

Agree <Black numenorian> [7/16 @ 13:58] (1/1)

Agree on greatness to see another Finn here :) (No Text) <Suni> [7/16 @ 15:24] (0/0)

Gee, I didn't think... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 11:07] (1/4)

Yes, <Firiel50> [7/15 @ 11:45] (2/3)

Perhaps the problem... <Cressida> [7/16 @ 17:27] (1/1)

Don't blame it on the choir directors... <erather> [7/16 @ 20:49] (0/0)

About the accent <Black numenorian> [7/16 @ 14:04] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #6: Anger is an Energy <notlost> [7/15 @ 8:56] (6/11)

Anger and frustration <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/15 @ 18:26] (0/0)
Might Sam be angry at Frodo? <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:35] (1/3)

He's dead, Jim...or not <notlost> [7/15 @ 18:46] (1/2)

I cannot lie. <Curious> [7/15 @ 20:04] (1/1)

That's ok... <notlost> [7/15 @ 20:57] (0/0)

Samwise the rebel without a cause <drogo_drogo> [7/15 @ 11:41] (1/1)

I think <notlost> [7/15 @ 18:52] (0/0)

"Sometimes anger can help you survive." <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 11:35] (1/1)

What's the rest of that quote? <Merryk> [7/16 @ 0:07] (0/0)

If you're three feet high.... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 11:03] (0/0)
Stages of Mourning <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 10:42] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #5: Master, Dear Master <notlost> [7/15 @ 8:53] (12/23)

Twas like a Mailstrom, with a notch <hatster> [7/15 @ 21:12] (1/1)

Chiding as love <Cressida> [7/16 @ 12:04] (0/0)

"Don't go where I can't follow..." <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/15 @ 18:14] (1/1)

You weren't wrong about #2 <nerdanel50> [7/15 @ 18:34] (0/0)

The last moments of "La Boheme" come to mind <erather> [7/15 @ 16:10] (0/0)
A beautiful chapter in my opinion <Estel Envinyatar> [7/15 @ 14:32] (2/2)

Hey, in the 50s, readers <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:42] (0/0)
Welcome to the Reading Room <nerdanel50> [7/15 @ 14:36] (0/0)

It does seem like poetry. <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:04] (0/0)
*Sneaks into RR, throws out two cents* <Seillib> [7/15 @ 12:15] (3/3)

You are so right! <notlost> [7/15 @ 16:59] (0/0)
Please show your face more <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 16:39] (0/0)
Stick around, the best is yet to come! (No Text) <erather> [7/15 @ 15:48] (0/0)

I felt <spencer> [7/15 @ 12:10] (0/0)
Because I could not stop for Frodo he kindly stopped for me <drogo_drogo> [7/15 @ 11:34] (1/1)

psst, dd <notlost> [7/15 @ 16:48] (0/0)

Warning: Character death, no happy ending? <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 11:30] (0/0)
Hey, I was convinced. <Reverend> [7/15 @ 10:53] (0/0)
Not me <nerdanel50> [7/15 @ 10:36] (2/2)

Does it occur to you... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 10:56] (0/0)
Wow <Merryk> [7/15 @ 10:51] (0/0)

O Frodo! My Frodo! <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 10:19] (1/1)

Gee.. <notlost> [7/15 @ 16:55] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #4: Whose Scene is it Anyway? And Color My World <notlost> [7/14 @ 17:59] (8/21)

Shelob sucks more than light and life . . . <nerdanel50> [7/15 @ 10:14] (1/1)

ditto and it's not easy being green <drogo_drogo> [7/15 @ 10:57] (0/0)

color references <Luinaelin> [7/15 @ 9:41] (2/5)

Gollum Green <Brockomir> [7/15 @ 13:21] (0/0)
more thoughts <Luinaelin> [7/15 @ 9:59] (2/3)

We see a negative grey <Curious> [7/15 @ 10:48] (1/1)

There's also <notlost> [7/15 @ 18:56] (0/0)

excellent work on the colors! (No Text) <nerdanel50> [7/15 @ 10:18] (0/0)

The shifting point of view is nothing new, but <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:27] (0/0)
I'll leave the color symbolism <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 8:13] (0/0)
Green may be bad, but grey is good <erather> [7/14 @ 22:01] (1/2)

Grey eyes <Kimi> [7/15 @ 0:39] (1/1)

And Treebeard's eyes were <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:11] (0/0)

My rantings <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 19:43] (1/5)

I'll be terrified when I see it... <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 20:18] (1/4)

Good point <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 21:04] (1/3)

hehe... <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 21:28] (1/2)

Good... <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 21:39] (1/1)

Oooohhh bad puns...lol (No Text) <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 21:47] (0/0)

"Green as poison" <Kimi> [7/14 @ 18:47] (0/0)
I dunno <Reverend> [7/14 @ 18:10] (0/0)

Does anyone know the origin of the Watcher at Moria (No Text) <HumanHobbit1> [7/14 @ 17:25] (2/16)

Yes <Reddevil> [7/14 @ 18:52] (2/14)

Source! Source, we wants it!! <Weige> [7/15 @ 9:52] (1/12)

I will just type the whole text down <Reddevil> [7/15 @ 14:14] (1/11)

David Day is not reliable. <Curious> [7/15 @ 14:45] (1/10)

I am so glad... <Reverend> [7/15 @ 15:23] (1/9)

But still? <Reddevil> [7/15 @ 16:58] (1/8)

Melkor did not create <Curious> [7/15 @ 17:10] (2/7)

Nay <Reddevil> [7/16 @ 5:23] (1/5)

The evil in Arda <PhantomS> [7/16 @ 10:30] (1/4)

Orome <Reddevil> [7/16 @ 11:07] (1/3)

which war we talking about here? <PhantomS> [7/16 @ 13:11] (1/2)

Never mind <Reddevil> [7/16 @ 18:16] (1/1)

Not the werewolfs. <Djurgarden> [7/16 @ 18:33] (0/0)

Interesting though <Alveric> [7/15 @ 18:00] (0/0)

Wow. Is that in the Silmarillion somewhere? (No Text) <Linguilindale> [7/14 @ 19:35] (0/0)

No. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 18:04] (0/0)

Does anyone know <HumanHobbit1> [7/14 @ 14:52] (4/7)

he certainly could <PhantomS> [7/16 @ 13:17] (0/0)
After the fall of Numenor... <Weige> [7/14 @ 15:08] (1/1)

What they said. (No Text) <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 15:16] (0/0)

I always thought he could. <WhiteAslan> [7/14 @ 15:05] (0/0)
I Think he probably could <Alveric> [7/14 @ 15:02] (1/2)

i always <HumanHobbit1> [7/14 @ 15:09] (1/1)

Maybe influence of the Films <Alveric> [7/14 @ 15:28] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #3: Samwise the Stouthearted Hearing Voices and Speaking in Tongues <notlost> [7/14 @ 12:15] (9/20)

I can't add much, but will comment on the Sindarin... <NZ Strider> [7/15 @ 14:20] (2/2)

NZS... <notlost> [7/15 @ 17:06] (0/0)
*falls over* <JewelTook> [7/15 @ 16:44] (0/0)

I have previously resisted <erather> [7/14 @ 19:58] (1/3)

I think it's good to resist <Merryk> [7/15 @ 1:57] (1/2)

Because of free will and the fact <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 8:02] (1/1)

Exactly.� One's <Merryk> [7/15 @ 10:39] (0/0)

I judge that Sam remembers these words. <Curious> [7/14 @ 18:19] (2/4)

From "Farewell to Lorien": <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:33] (0/0)
Interesting, I agree with most <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 19:18] (1/2)

I agree that it is magic. As <Curious> [7/14 @ 22:29] (1/1)

I like your idea of devolving the <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 8:07] (0/0)

Sam <Arod the Swift> [7/14 @ 17:41] (0/0)
Do You Believe In Magic? <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 16:17] (0/0)
"I am a willing channel....." <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 15:06] (2/2)

I know I shouldn't... <notlost> [7/14 @ 16:38] (0/0)
afterthought <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 15:11] (0/0)

voices and heroes <drogo_drogo> [7/14 @ 14:29] (0/0)
Hmmm.... <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/14 @ 13:47] (0/0)
Tolkien's translation of Sam's Invocation <notlost> [7/14 @ 12:27] (0/0)

Just wondering... <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 11:38] (4/20)

Thanks all! (No Text) <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 20:20] (0/0)
Yes, <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 18:27] (1/16)

Nice cite!� Perhaps we can say <Curious> [7/14 @ 18:48] (1/15)

Oh, we're not near done yet with <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 8:25] (1/14)

Except it isn't symbolism <Curious> [7/15 @ 8:46] (1/13)

If you make a symbol literal <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 9:17] (1/12)

But <Curious> [7/15 @ 9:41] (2/11)

Not sure I fully agree here <Alveric> [7/15 @ 11:45] (1/1)

Absolutely. <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:56] (0/0)

You say po-ta-to <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 10:22] (1/8)

Can <Curious> [7/15 @ 10:34] (1/7)

Hmmm... <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 10:53] (2/6)

Not <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:25] (0/0)
I reserve the Old Testament <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 11:19] (3/4)

Very nice! (No Text) <Kimi> [7/15 @ 16:48] (0/0)
I agree, also. (No Text) <gullygilly> [7/15 @ 11:40] (0/0)
I <Curious> [7/15 @ 11:28] (1/1)

So short? <Princess of Geekland> [7/15 @ 11:37] (0/0)

Jung and Middle-earth <Alveric> [7/14 @ 14:52] (0/0)
Not intentionally or by design, but <Curious> [7/14 @ 14:18] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #2: Shelob as a WMD <notlost> [7/14 @ 11:31] (13/23)

I also had to think even your line a couple of times before realizing it now... (No Text) <Suni> [7/15 @ 17:40] (0/0)
Very briefly... <erather> [7/14 @ 20:22] (0/0)
My thoughts <Kimi> [7/14 @ 17:55] (0/0)
LOL very funny <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 15:58] (0/0)
Concerning spiders <ElanorG> [7/14 @ 15:31] (3/6)

On being stung: <Kimi> [7/14 @ 18:11] (2/3)

Great Authors and Spiders <notlost> [7/14 @ 18:28] (1/1)

Authors are weavers... <Golfimbul> [7/14 @ 20:58] (0/0)

Kimi to the rescue again! ;) (No Text) <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 18:28] (0/0)

Concerning Evil Nature <The Silent Watcher> [7/14 @ 17:22] (0/0)
Yes, I remember reading that <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 16:01] (0/0)

Hint?� What hint? <Curious> [7/14 @ 15:20] (0/0)
I found a black widow Sunday <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 14:50] (0/0)
evil spiders and she's a danger to herself and others <drogo_drogo> [7/14 @ 14:13] (0/0)
Typing quickly... <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:49] (0/0)
Natural evil... <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/14 @ 13:38] (0/0)
Good questions. <Elwen> [7/14 @ 12:50] (1/3)

Right. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 14:27] (1/2)

recap? <notlost> [7/14 @ 14:31] (1/1)

Nobody knows. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 17:55] (0/0)

WMD...ROFLMAO! <JewelTook> [7/14 @ 12:34] (0/0)
For question 1: <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 12:09] (1/1)

It does indeed make sense, and... <notlost> [7/14 @ 14:36] (0/0)

The mysterious mail shirt. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 10:41] (10/18)

But wait... <infidel> [7/15 @ 8:25] (1/2)

Tolkien is not consistant... <Reverend> [7/16 @ 10:17] (1/1)

Wouldn't go so far as that <Alveric> [7/17 @ 4:33] (0/0)

Something old, <Merryk> [7/15 @ 2:02] (0/0)
Oh, very nice! <Kimi> [7/14 @ 17:19] (0/0)
You know <notlost> [7/14 @ 17:10] (0/0)
Great UUT <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 14:28] (1/1)

That was Blue Wizard's UUT. <Curious> [7/14 @ 18:31] (0/0)

What fun. Bravo, y'all. (No Text) <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 14:13] (0/0)
Some great UUTs in this thread! <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:52] (0/0)
Nice idea, but <Alveric> [7/14 @ 11:58] (2/4)

bladorthin etymology <eldarheru> [7/14 @ 17:08] (1/1)

Going further with Bladorthin etymology <Alveric> [7/15 @ 8:49] (0/0)

The problem... <Reverend> [7/14 @ 14:20] (1/1)

True <Alveric> [7/14 @ 15:21] (0/0)

Bravo! Nice UUT... <Oss�> [7/14 @ 11:09] (0/0)
nicely done <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 10:57] (1/1)

Legolas <kodax> [7/14 @ 21:28] (0/0)

Shelob's Lair: Summary <JewelTook> [7/14 @ 10:28] (18/21)

nice summary (No Text) <Hengist> [7/16 @ 12:04] (0/0)
Thanks, great discussion! <Suni> [7/15 @ 17:24] (0/0)
Thank you, JewelTook! <Altaira> [7/15 @ 14:44] (0/0)
Bravo! Bravo! <Merryk> [7/15 @ 1:49] (0/0)
Great job! Thanks! (No Text) <Acathalion> [7/15 @ 0:54] (0/0)
thank you! (No Text) <wajeff> [7/14 @ 20:30] (0/0)
A great job, and a wonderful summary! (No Text) <Kimi> [7/14 @ 17:14] (0/0)
Thanks for the discussion Jeweltook! <Lothirienne> [7/14 @ 15:50] (1/1)

pssst, Lotherienne <Altaira> [7/15 @ 14:40] (0/0)

Thanks for a great discussion & summary! (No Text) <erather> [7/14 @ 14:17] (0/0)
Wow! Great! (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/14 @ 13:47] (0/0)
What a summary! Thanks for an enjoyable week, Jewel Took! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 13:33] (0/0)
Brilliant week, JewelTook! (No Text) <nerdanel50> [7/14 @ 11:25] (0/0)
Wonderful job, and a wonderful summary. (No Text) <Curious> [7/14 @ 11:21] (0/0)
Yea, verily. (No Text) <Reverend> [7/14 @ 10:48] (0/0)
Great job. <Oss�> [7/14 @ 10:44] (0/0)
Most Excellent! <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 10:44] (0/0)
Thanks JewelTook...and about #5 <Elwen> [7/14 @ 10:38] (1/2)

Tolkine's letter on that was quoted .... <Reverend> [7/14 @ 10:51] (1/1)

Thanks. <Elwen> [7/14 @ 11:13] (0/0)

Well, done, JewelTook, and... <notlost> [7/14 @ 10:34] (0/0)

The Most Powerful.... <Eskalona> [7/14 @ 6:59] (4/7)

Remember Tulkas. <Curious> [7/14 @ 11:37] (0/0)
Manw� of Galadriel, depending on where you mean <Alveric> [7/14 @ 11:12] (1/2)

Gandalf the White <Curious> [7/14 @ 11:42] (1/1)

Ah forgot about him <Alveric> [7/14 @ 15:32] (0/0)

The Wizard of Oz? ;-) <Nimrodel > [7/14 @ 9:49] (0/0)
That depends... <Oss�> [7/14 @ 8:12] (1/1)

outside of Valar i think <HumanHobbit1> [7/14 @ 15:17] (0/0)

The Choices of Master Samwise #1: I Heard a Fly Buzz <notlost> [7/14 @ 2:34] (10/23)

There is nothing so dangerous as a mother defending her cubs <Arod the Swift> [7/14 @ 17:29] (0/0)
At last!! <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/14 @ 13:24] (0/0)
The greatest platonic-love story <Curious> [7/14 @ 12:31] (2/3)

I really like <notlost> [7/14 @ 14:43] (1/1)

Yes, and yes. <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 15:12] (0/0)

I want to point out that Beren <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 14:22] (0/0)

first stab at a chapter analysis... <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 10:27] (1/3)

Good job <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 10:30] (1/2)

Thank you (No Text) <KT the ceiling fan> [7/14 @ 10:58] (1/1)

Love your hilarious <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 14:23] (0/0)

quick reaction <nerdanel50> [7/14 @ 10:02] (3/4)

IMHO, they're short. Feet are a close target. (No Text) <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 14:24] (0/0)
The foot-stabbing campain.... <Reverend> [7/14 @ 10:12] (1/1)

We could also stretch a bit... <Suni> [7/15 @ 17:05] (0/0)

As far as lucky foot stabbing campaigns go... <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 10:08] (0/0)

Aye matie <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 9:48] (1/1)

Argh! <notlost> [7/14 @ 10:40] (0/0)

Doves and hawks <Firiel50> [7/14 @ 8:20] (0/0)
thoughts <drogo_drogo> [7/14 @ 7:10] (0/0)
My thoughts <Kimi> [7/14 @ 6:14] (0/0)
Some (very brief) thoughts <NZ Strider> [7/14 @ 5:05] (2/2)

The image of the mother beast <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 14:38] (0/0)
Good enough (No Text) <Reverend> [7/14 @ 10:42] (0/0)

Introduction to "The Choices of Master Samwise" <notlost> [7/14 @ 1:59] (0/0)

Does anyone <HumanHobbit1> [7/13 @ 20:18] (2/4)

Answers in Gandalf's Song <Alveric> [7/14 @ 4:09] (0/0)
The palant�ri: <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 21:12] (1/2)

Just to amplify... <Reverend> [7/13 @ 21:32] (1/1)

No that's 2,342 tonnes ;) <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 21:35] (0/0)

"Undieing lands" <Scarfang> [7/13 @ 17:41] (2/14)

from what I've read here before... <Dlz> [7/13 @ 22:15] (2/2)

Time may well <Kimi> [7/14 @ 0:27] (0/0)
Or you could argue... <Nimrodel > [7/14 @ 0:17] (0/0)

yes they do <hatster> [7/13 @ 18:48] (1/10)

Letter 325 <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 19:05] (1/9)

i think he means <HumanHobbit1> [7/13 @ 20:10] (1/8)

No I think <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 20:16] (3/7)

Grey Havens are in Middle-earth <Alveric> [7/14 @ 4:17] (1/1)

Yikes! <gullygilly> [7/14 @ 9:00] (0/0)

Grey Havens... <Dlz> [7/13 @ 22:12] (2/2)

Yes, "haven" is an archaic word for "harbor." (No Text) <Nimrodel > [7/14 @ 0:15] (0/0)
That's right...at least it should be. (No Text) <KT the ceiling fan> [7/13 @ 23:20] (0/0)

I was just <HumanHobbit1> [7/13 @ 20:33] (1/1)

Hey, don't get too deep ;) <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 20:40] (0/0)

question about orcs invading Lorien <Princess of Geekland> [7/13 @ 15:07] (4/7)

Both Sauron and Saruman sent orcs <Curious> [7/13 @ 21:52] (0/0)
I Think the answer could be... <Captains of Gondolin> [7/13 @ 18:37] (1/1)

Khamul <Djurgarden> [7/13 @ 19:06] (0/0)

Sauron at least <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/13 @ 15:39] (1/1)

I agree. (No Text) <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 17:38] (0/0)

Doubt it was Saruman <Alveric> [7/13 @ 15:33] (1/1)

Well, the orcs who left Moria <Princess of Geekland> [7/13 @ 23:44] (0/0)

are the <HumanHobbit1> [7/13 @ 10:26] (3/7)

Rings <kodax> [7/14 @ 4:29] (0/0)
Ah, by the way, HumanHobbit1, since you're new here, <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 14:46] (1/1)

thanks NZ Strider (No Text) <HumanHobbit1> [7/13 @ 20:11] (0/0)

No <Alveric> [7/13 @ 11:59] (1/3)

though I do have the sense that Aragorn <hatster> [7/13 @ 12:05] (1/2)

In Letter 246 <Alveric> [7/13 @ 12:35] (1/1)

True but that depends on your defintion of successful. <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 17:34] (0/0)

Blue Wizards <HumanHobbit1> [7/12 @ 21:28] (1/14)

Unfinished Tales says... <Reverend> [7/12 @ 21:49] (1/13)

So basically <HumanHobbit1> [7/12 @ 21:53] (6/12)

Mission Impossible. <Curious> [7/13 @ 21:42] (1/2)

Right. <Reverend> [7/14 @ 10:53] (1/1)

Just as Frodo's <Curious> [7/14 @ 11:10] (0/0)

My UUT on the subject <piccolo> [7/13 @ 16:50] (0/0)
Some thoughts on the Blue Wizards <Alveric> [7/13 @ 6:58] (0/0)
They didn't... <ZG1> [7/12 @ 22:07] (0/0)
*Shrugs* <Reverend> [7/12 @ 22:05] (0/0)
Well... <Nimrodel > [7/12 @ 22:04] (1/4)

Perfect Wizardry <PhantomS> [7/12 @ 23:44] (1/3)

then how <HumanHobbit1> [7/13 @ 10:15] (2/2)

more than temptation <PhantomS> [7/13 @ 13:29] (0/0)
Sauron, and other corrupted Maiar <Alveric> [7/13 @ 13:03] (0/0)

Tom Bombadil <HumanHobbit1> [7/12 @ 19:49] (9/17)

Tom Theories <Alveric> [7/13 @ 7:14] (0/0)
I have a small theory... <Dlz> [7/12 @ 23:28] (1/1)

Actually... <gullygilly> [7/12 @ 23:36] (0/0)

There's a great discussion of the Bombadil puzzle <erather> [7/12 @ 21:42] (1/1)

If interested here are a couple more links <Alveric> [7/13 @ 15:26] (0/0)

In the letters <gullygilly> [7/12 @ 21:30] (1/2)

Agreed, but <KT the ceiling fan> [7/12 @ 21:36] (1/1)

Good theory... <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 17:49] (0/0)

tom could be maia <HumanHobbit1> [7/12 @ 21:25] (0/0)
My favourite theory... <KT the ceiling fan> [7/12 @ 20:52] (1/1)

Welcome to the Reading Room! <nerdanel50> [7/13 @ 15:41] (0/0)

We don't know <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 20:14] (0/0)
erm..... and? <beren_boy> [7/12 @ 20:07] (0/0)
Well... <ZG1> [7/12 @ 20:05] (1/3)

You know, that theory <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 20:16] (2/2)

I thought he was the 5th Beatle ;) (No Text) <gullygilly> [7/12 @ 21:21] (0/0)
Better, actually... <ZG1> [7/12 @ 20:49] (0/0)

The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 0:30] (5/9)

Wow, thanks for that! <nerdanel50> [7/13 @ 13:40] (0/0)
Great citation <Acathalion> [7/13 @ 13:19] (1/1)

I think you're very right. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 14:49] (0/0)

Interesting... <gullygilly> [7/12 @ 12:00] (0/0)
Thanks, NZ <Morwen> [7/12 @ 10:07] (0/0)
once again, the power of the oath <hatster> [7/12 @ 0:44] (2/3)

I shouldn't write stuff after midnight. BLECH <hatster> [7/12 @ 9:55] (1/1)

Don't worry; I think <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 16:40] (0/0)

Thanks <Laitaine> [7/12 @ 9:41] (0/0)

Frodo's song in Bree <pocketses> [7/11 @ 22:06] (3/8)

You may know this already but <galadhremmin> [7/13 @ 1:42] (1/2)

Tolkien's Joke <Ostadan> [7/14 @ 12:36] (1/1)

I love these in jokes and I <Princess of Geekland> [7/14 @ 15:14] (0/0)

what about all who wander are lost <Celebrian_Galadrieldil> [7/12 @ 3:00] (2/2)

I believe Tolkien invented that phrase. <Curious> [7/13 @ 21:35] (0/0)
Yes, I've wondered about this as well. (No Text) <moi> [7/12 @ 17:45] (0/0)

the nursery rhyme... <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 22:17] (1/1)

There's a theory <Kimi> [7/12 @ 17:38] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #15: Say Anything (Open Discussion) <JewelTook> [7/11 @ 20:42] (4/28)

no questions but thanks <drogo_drogo> [7/13 @ 18:37] (0/0)
Just a minor comment: <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 16:36] (3/23)

I see Shelob as inconsistent <Curious> [7/13 @ 20:48] (0/0)
Shelob is a Mother <nerdanel50> [7/13 @ 1:27] (4/20)

I really believe <Curious> [7/13 @ 21:17] (1/2)

It's not really about credence <nerdanel50> [7/13 @ 23:27] (1/1)

I have to confess <Curious> [7/14 @ 1:11] (0/0)

Skipping the Freudian... <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 11:11] (1/5)

And don't forget mates, <nerdanel50> [7/13 @ 12:02] (1/4)

What I was alluding to <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 12:37] (2/3)

I agree. Except that Shelob is sentient, <Curious> [7/13 @ 21:26] (0/0)
What I think militates against <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 14:35] (1/1)

Well, now that you mention it... <gullygilly> [7/13 @ 16:36] (0/0)

You're right -- <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 3:43] (1/3)

Yes, I almost... <JewelTook> [7/13 @ 13:05] (1/2)

On Galadriel as a "net-weaver" -- <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 14:43] (1/1)

Good stories and bad--Good weavers and bad <hatster> [7/13 @ 15:24] (0/0)

And that should cure anyone <Kimi> [7/13 @ 2:10] (1/6)

It's Cronus who devours <NZ Strider> [7/13 @ 3:29] (2/5)

Arachne is a little bit less gruesome, but also <hatster> [7/13 @ 15:13] (1/3)

Yes! <Kimi> [7/13 @ 16:23] (1/2)

ack! I'm sorry, Kimi! I skimmed but must have missed it (No Text) <hatster> [7/13 @ 16:46] (1/1)

No need to be! <Kimi> [7/13 @ 16:54] (0/0)

That one should come with a health warning! <Kimi> [7/13 @ 4:11] (0/0)

Also JRRT.... <Golfimbul> [7/12 @ 19:31] (0/0)

Spidery questions <PhantomS> [7/11 @ 23:57] (1/1)

Spidery answers <Alveric> [7/12 @ 5:08] (0/0)

*Too breathless to type right now!* (No Text) <erather> [7/11 @ 21:48] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #14: A Simple Plan <JewelTook> [7/11 @ 20:38] (6/6)

Who thought it was safe? <Curious> [7/12 @ 1:28] (0/0)
my one and a half cents... <wajeff> [7/11 @ 23:23] (0/0)
My two cents worth... <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/11 @ 22:21] (0/0)
"Stupid fat Hobbit", as gollum called him.... <WhiteLadyEowyn> [7/11 @ 21:25] (0/0)
great questions <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 21:13] (0/0)
Some (brief) thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 20:54] (0/0)

sorry, just want to confirm the astoundingly obvious <Dryhten> [7/11 @ 17:28] (4/6)

Not sure about that <PhantomS> [7/11 @ 23:50] (0/0)
As gullygilly notes, only the Three would not <Curious> [7/11 @ 22:11] (0/0)
Hmmm letter 131 <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 18:52] (0/0)
First, we don't really know <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 18:12] (1/2)

Dwarven rings... <Taedius> [7/13 @ 12:43] (1/1)

Yes, all were made for Elves only <Alveric> [7/13 @ 15:03] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #13: Eight-Legged Freaks <JewelTook> [7/11 @ 9:54] (5/8)

Creepy, indeed... <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 18:47] (1/2)

Oooh, I saw that... <JewelTook> [7/11 @ 20:31] (1/1)

A nice collection of Tolkien-inspired art is here >>> (No Text - Link Inside) <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 20:44] (0/0)

very good links. <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 16:25] (0/0)
I've had the nasty feeling <piccolo> [7/11 @ 14:21] (0/0)
this section <spencer> [7/11 @ 12:09] (1/1)

That's the opposite for me. <moi> [7/11 @ 18:46] (0/0)

Wow! Some of those would be really beautiful <nerdanel50> [7/11 @ 10:21] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #12: The Sixth Sense <JewelTook> [7/11 @ 9:37] (7/13)

my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/11 @ 20:25] (0/0)
Red for danger <Kimi> [7/11 @ 17:54] (1/3)

... or for courage. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 18:53] (1/2)

Can we say *and* rather than or? <Kimi> [7/11 @ 19:00] (1/1)

Sure. :-) (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/12 @ 16:41] (0/0)

Sam's secrecy <FantasyFan> [7/11 @ 14:18] (0/0)
Pass the Tums... <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 14:04] (0/0)
The Ring is at work. <Curious> [7/11 @ 13:12] (1/2)

thanks! <spencer> [7/11 @ 15:10] (1/1)

I did miss it, but <Curious> [7/11 @ 16:44] (0/0)

Sam's common sense <Annael> [7/11 @ 13:08] (1/1)

Good to see you over here again, Annael. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 18:53] (0/0)

Sam really comes across as a competent adventurer... <Reverend> [7/11 @ 9:51] (0/0)

What if: Gollum had repented? <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 21:45] (3/5)

What Atlas said, and.. <Alveric> [7/11 @ 5:20] (0/0)
Tolkien's answer to this question. <Atlas> [7/11 @ 2:51] (1/1)

Interesting... Gandalf said <Dryhten> [7/11 @ 7:27] (0/0)

Maybe the repentant Gollum <nerdanel50> [7/10 @ 23:17] (1/1)

good idea (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 23:35] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #11: Resident Evil <JewelTook> [7/10 @ 19:46] (6/17)

question on the pronouns <FantasyFan> [7/11 @ 14:13] (1/1)

She (a cat) doesn't admit or accept (own) that he's her master. <erather> [7/11 @ 15:01] (0/0)

Tolkien prefers to give his explanations <Curious> [7/11 @ 9:12] (3/8)

Evil in the real world, <Merryk> [7/12 @ 7:47] (1/1)

The real world is illogical <Curious> [7/12 @ 8:45] (0/0)

I go with the "no fingers" <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 14:29] (2/3)

And what about Red Riding Hood? <Curious> [7/11 @ 16:54] (1/1)

There you go... <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 17:11] (0/0)

That's why the usual mad scientist <Curious> [7/11 @ 16:08] (0/0)

A fun speculation... <Reverend> [7/11 @ 9:42] (1/1)

Both nice theories. <Curious> [7/11 @ 12:28] (0/0)

For one thing, who knew all this? <Reverend> [7/10 @ 20:48] (1/2)

Gandalf's "post-game" analysis <wajeff> [7/10 @ 21:17] (1/1)

I agree -- this looks like <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 4:03] (0/0)

my (deep) thoughts... <wajeff> [7/10 @ 20:41] (0/0)
A glut of life <Kimi> [7/10 @ 20:13] (0/0)
The bowing and worshiping..... <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 20:04] (0/0)

A question sparked by Silmarillion <Mellaithien> [7/10 @ 15:45] (3/4)

Logistics <PhantomS> [7/11 @ 5:37] (0/0)
Refuge on the Isle of Balar <Alveric> [7/11 @ 4:49] (0/0)
My understanding is... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 20:33] (1/1)

Passage from the Sil <Captains of Gondolin> [7/10 @ 22:44] (0/0)

Good Reads <Burkshifter> [7/10 @ 14:58] (7/12)

Anything by Milan Kundera, Saul Bellow or Jane Smiley (No Text) <summertime> [7/13 @ 14:08] (0/0)
Seabiscuit <Annael> [7/11 @ 13:10] (3/3)

Mrs. Fimbul loves it... <Golfimbul> [7/12 @ 12:31] (0/0)
If you can, try to catch <erather> [7/11 @ 17:52] (0/0)
I go with Annael <gullygilly> [7/11 @ 17:20] (0/0)

I am reading Long for this World and it is excellent! <Farawyn> [7/11 @ 11:05] (0/0)
Lois McMaster Bujold <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/11 @ 10:15] (0/0)
I'm reading "Moby Dick".... <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 19:14] (0/0)
My picks. . . <WhiteAslan> [7/10 @ 16:08] (1/1)

Loved The Lovely Bones. (No Text) <Farawyn> [7/11 @ 11:05] (0/0)

My favorite book... <Lairosion> [7/10 @ 15:38] (1/1)

ahh the favorite book of serial killers, heh :) (No Text) <Groovicles> [7/11 @ 0:18] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #10: The Great Escape <JewelTook> [7/10 @ 9:33] (11/13)

It was when I read those words -- <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 3:31] (0/0)
my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/10 @ 20:26] (0/0)
Frodo is wiser than Sam.� Which is why <Curious> [7/10 @ 19:12] (0/0)
Euphoria after despair <Kimi> [7/10 @ 18:23] (1/1)

I think his reactions <Merryk> [7/10 @ 23:25] (0/0)

rather normal <gullygilly> [7/10 @ 15:01] (0/0)
What would you do <eldarheru> [7/10 @ 14:56] (0/0)
Frodo summoned everything he had <erather> [7/10 @ 14:08] (0/0)
Hobbit-sense tingling <piccolo> [7/10 @ 12:49] (0/0)
Frodo is more romantic than sam <Arod the Swift> [7/10 @ 11:40] (0/0)
It seems to me... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 10:01] (1/1)

I agree plus <spencer> [7/10 @ 12:15] (0/0)

flip-flop and Sam preparing to be the Ringbearer <drogo_drogo> [7/10 @ 9:54] (0/0)

This may not be appropriate for the Reading Room, but I think I'll get the best response here... <Rider Of The Rohirrim> [7/10 @ 0:28] (6/14)

Does whistling count? I'm thinking of "The Bridge On The River Kwai" (No Text) <Advising Elf> [7/10 @ 17:43] (1/2)

Officially, that's 'Colonel Bogie.' (No Text) <Reverend> [7/10 @ 20:34] (1/1)

And here's a bit more about <NZ Strider> [7/11 @ 3:58] (0/0)

Enclosed is a link <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 2:16] (0/0)
You mean clean ones? <Reverend> [7/10 @ 1:10] (2/2)

I was going to say that! <Lothirienne> [7/10 @ 10:51] (0/0)
I should mention... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 9:05] (0/0)

The ants go marching <Merryk> [7/10 @ 1:04] (1/2)

Anybody have the link to the "Ents" version <erather> [7/10 @ 16:30] (1/1)

I also like the "Antz" version. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 19:05] (0/0)

Valderee, valderah, valderee, <nerdanel50> [7/10 @ 1:01] (2/2)

Text at link; a further link takes you to the German original. (No Text - Link Inside) <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 2:05] (0/0)
yes good one (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 1:05] (0/0)

o.k. <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 0:33] (0/0)

question <LorienEvenstar> [7/9 @ 22:33] (1/2)

"You can... <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 0:21] (1/1)

A little more detail... <Silverlode> [7/10 @ 4:36] (0/0)

The Simarillion <LorienEvenstar> [7/9 @ 22:33] (5/6)

It is worth buying, but... <Advising Elf> [7/10 @ 17:49] (1/1)

thanks <LorienEvenstar> [7/10 @ 23:46] (0/0)

Buy it. <Nimrodel > [7/10 @ 8:38] (0/0)
Amazon.com <WargWithRabies> [7/10 @ 0:02] (0/0)
It's well worth buying a copy. <Tary�v�wen > [7/9 @ 23:29] (0/0)
Hmmm.... <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/9 @ 22:42] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #9: Star Wars <JewelTook> [7/9 @ 21:05] (13/16)

I wish I could find an old thread... <Dryhten> [7/12 @ 19:21] (0/0)
Great quote! <Morwen> [7/10 @ 9:33] (0/0)
Old gray mare [or light-sucking mega-spider] she ain't what she used to be... <drogo_drogo> [7/10 @ 9:30] (1/2)

You know... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 10:12] (1/1)

E�rendil and Ancalagon the Black <Alveric> [7/10 @ 11:21] (0/0)

Ungoliant, Shelob and the light <Alveric> [7/10 @ 8:08] (0/0)
Nothing much to add... <NZ Strider> [7/10 @ 2:43] (0/0)
Small addition <notlost> [7/10 @ 0:22] (0/0)
Agree with haster <piccolo> [7/9 @ 23:57] (0/0)
The Two Trees were nearly dead when Ungoliant <Curious> [7/9 @ 23:44] (0/0)
my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/9 @ 23:08] (0/0)
Triple and oddly mixed powers <hatster> [7/9 @ 21:54] (1/1)

Great thought! <Merryk> [7/10 @ 0:14] (0/0)

Well taken. <Reverend> [7/9 @ 21:45] (0/0)
Well it seems safe to assume <Arod the Swift> [7/9 @ 21:39] (0/0)
*Savoring the passage* <erather> [7/9 @ 21:23] (0/0)

Saruman <Jus> [7/9 @ 14:31] (3/12)

Maiar yes, incarnate,no <PhantomS> [7/11 @ 5:59] (0/0)
most likely he just went poof and became one with the atmosphere <drogo_drogo> [7/9 @ 16:22] (1/3)

Explain more on Morgoth if you can <Fountain_head> [7/9 @ 16:37] (2/2)

Morgoth personally... <Reverend> [7/9 @ 17:57] (0/0)
It's in Morgoth's Ring <drogo_drogo> [7/9 @ 17:45] (0/0)

The best guess is no. <Reverend> [7/9 @ 15:19] (2/6)

He still had his Voice. <Curious> [7/10 @ 1:09] (2/4)

No doubt... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 10:06] (0/0)
Which begs the question... <Atlas> [7/10 @ 8:57] (2/2)

still some power left <eldarheru> [7/10 @ 14:28] (0/0)
Saruman's voice always seemed very human. <Curious> [7/10 @ 10:26] (0/0)

Sauroman <kodax> [7/10 @ 0:19] (0/0)

About Glorfindel <EsteBrandybuck> [7/9 @ 13:55] (5/7)

For future reference: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/10 @ 0:57] (0/0)
Uh, EsteB <Estella Brandybuck> [7/9 @ 17:48] (1/1)

Good point <EsteTook> [7/10 @ 9:06] (0/0)

In the Sil... <Reverend> [7/9 @ 15:16] (1/1)

Ah! Thank you! (No Text) <EsteBrandybuck> [7/9 @ 15:33] (0/0)

Arwen took his role in the movie. <WhiteAslan> [7/9 @ 14:13] (0/0)
'Flight to the Ford' in fotr... <Dlz> [7/9 @ 14:06] (0/0)

Modern Day Aragorn? <Denzen Drakkenshield> [7/9 @ 12:59] (2/13)

Tolkien gives us the answer to this! <Curious> [7/10 @ 0:52] (1/4)

Is there any way... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 12:09] (1/3)

I have been sadly neglecting <Curious> [7/10 @ 12:12] (1/2)

I suppose that... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 13:37] (1/1)

Or <Curious> [7/10 @ 15:45] (0/0)

less lore and more wisdom <Linguilindale> [7/9 @ 16:05] (2/7)

He'd be wearing a T-shirt on which he had scrawled <nerdanel50> [7/10 @ 1:04] (1/2)

Actually... <Atlas> [7/10 @ 8:36] (1/1)

That's pretty much what I said, <nerdanel50> [7/10 @ 10:51] (0/0)

Aragorn <kodax> [7/10 @ 0:25] (1/3)

Michael Moore is Aragorn? uuugh. (No Text) <Fisher> [7/10 @ 9:04] (1/2)

Roger Moore <kodax> [7/11 @ 3:40] (1/1)

I'm with you on Michael Moore, but . . . <nerdanel50> [7/11 @ 17:04] (0/0)

Ack... question about "magic" <iamleia2> [7/9 @ 9:48] (5/13)

You are taking Anwyn's thinking <Curious> [7/10 @ 0:34] (0/0)
Could this have been a vision for Frodo? <Dlz> [7/9 @ 14:04] (2/5)

Yes, it was a vision. <Curious> [7/10 @ 0:45] (0/0)
Almost on topic... <iamleia2> [7/9 @ 14:39] (1/3)

yes, but... <Dlz> [7/9 @ 14:45] (1/2)

True that... <iamleia2> [7/9 @ 15:30] (1/1)

Yah... <Dlz> [7/9 @ 15:53] (0/0)

Of course you are right. <Reverend> [7/9 @ 11:02] (1/1)

nice UUT on the wizards' staffs (and misc. thoughts on lembas) <drogo_drogo> [7/9 @ 16:17] (0/0)

Magical Middle-earth <Alveric> [7/9 @ 10:36] (1/2)

So many things to learn from the Sil... <iamleia2> [7/9 @ 13:30] (1/1)

Il�vatar in Middle-earth <Alveric> [7/10 @ 6:27] (0/0)

I'm not religious, but I agree with your stance on LOTR <Fountain_head> [7/9 @ 10:16] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #8: The Shining <JewelTook> [7/9 @ 9:17] (9/23)

OK, this is magic. <Merryk> [7/10 @ 0:03] (1/1)

Oh, yes! <Trixie Hobbit> [7/10 @ 19:59] (0/0)

my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/9 @ 20:20] (0/0)
I think Gladdy is giving him a nudge here. <Reverend> [7/9 @ 15:29] (1/9)

How is Galadriel able to see <Curious> [7/9 @ 23:25] (1/8)

I take Sam's... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 1:24] (1/7)

What about Tom? <Curious> [7/10 @ 10:13] (2/6)

Just another possibility <Alveric> [7/11 @ 5:51] (0/0)
Tom doesn't care. <Reverend> [7/10 @ 12:03] (1/4)

But Tom <Curious> [7/10 @ 12:15] (2/3)

Not necessarily <Acathalion> [7/13 @ 12:44] (0/0)
But Sam... <Reverend> [7/10 @ 13:42] (1/1)

Well, <Curious> [7/10 @ 15:49] (0/0)

Tolkien tells us it seemed like another voice <Curious> [7/9 @ 14:13] (0/0)
The power of prayer? <nerdanel50> [7/9 @ 13:57] (0/0)
The Purloined Star-Glass <notlost> [7/9 @ 10:40] (0/0)
Frodo <Arod the Swift> [7/9 @ 10:10] (0/0)
Some thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 10:04] (2/2)

Oh foo. <Reverend> [7/9 @ 15:33] (0/0)
I agree with this <Oss�> [7/9 @ 11:58] (0/0)

There's a light and the collective unconscious of words <drogo_drogo> [7/9 @ 9:46] (1/2)

Groan, DD <notlost> [7/9 @ 10:34] (1/1)

Yes, "...over at the Frankenstein Place" <drogo_drogo> [7/9 @ 15:42] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #7: A Beautiful Mind <JewelTook> [7/9 @ 9:11] (9/15)

night of the living hobbits! <wajeff> [7/9 @ 20:11] (2/2)

Quite right. <Curious> [7/9 @ 23:22] (0/0)
Thanks for that <erather> [7/9 @ 21:09] (0/0)

Why Sam, indeed? <erather> [7/9 @ 14:31] (0/0)
Sam's gift <nerdanel50> [7/9 @ 13:37] (1/1)

Nice thoughts <Trixie Hobbit> [7/10 @ 19:44] (0/0)

This darkness affects the mind, or else <Curious> [7/9 @ 13:36] (0/0)
Journey to the center of the ...hobbit? <notlost> [7/9 @ 10:30] (1/3)

Who caused this to happen? <Merryk> [7/9 @ 23:45] (1/2)

Gotta love "deus ex flashlight" <notlost> [7/10 @ 0:16] (1/1)

That's a nice answer (No Text) <Merryk> [7/10 @ 1:08] (0/0)

Visions while still awake? <Oss�> [7/9 @ 10:24] (0/0)
Some (quick) thoughts <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 10:20] (0/0)
"What Lies Beneath"... <drogo_drogo> [7/9 @ 9:27] (0/0)
Light in dark places. <Morwen> [7/9 @ 9:24] (0/0)

Just wondering <Reddevil> [7/9 @ 9:00] (3/4)

If you look <Thorongil2931> [7/10 @ 2:52] (0/0)
That would be... <Oss�> [7/9 @ 9:22] (0/0)
My guess is <JewelTook> [7/9 @ 9:20] (1/1)

My thought too. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/9 @ 10:58] (0/0)

Top <Reddevil> [7/9 @ 8:46] (6/9)

Hmmmm... <Thorongil2931> [7/10 @ 2:55] (0/0)
different poll, but fun... <Lorien-lover> [7/9 @ 18:31] (0/0)
They're all so good! (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/9 @ 10:57] (0/0)
Interesting... <oloin> [7/9 @ 9:25] (0/0)
Thats hard <Tomsk> [7/9 @ 9:16] (0/0)
Most of them <MotherWasAHamster> [7/9 @ 9:04] (1/3)

My favorites <Black numenorian> [7/9 @ 14:15] (1/2)

How about "hobbit"? (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/10 @ 0:19] (1/1)

My favourite <Captains of Gondolin> [7/10 @ 23:42] (0/0)

Finished the trilogy - first time reading it... <dbell1> [7/9 @ 0:01] (8/10)

their is more <Eskalona> [7/11 @ 8:48] (0/0)
Flight <spencer> [7/9 @ 16:15] (0/0)
Welcome! <Curious> [7/9 @ 13:06] (0/0)
Welcome, newblood... <Fountain_head> [7/9 @ 9:26] (1/1)

Arwen's role <Thorongil2931> [7/10 @ 3:03] (0/0)

I'm glad you enjoyed them! <WhiteAslan> [7/9 @ 8:38] (0/0)
Songs & verses:� a suggestion <Azree> [7/9 @ 0:37] (0/0)
Reading aloud <notlost> [7/9 @ 0:26] (0/0)
Hmm..I've got some thoughts. <tolkien_wings> [7/9 @ 0:15] (1/1)

Thanks everyone for responding & ROTK thoughts! (Story Spoiler - ROTK - book) <dbell1> [7/10 @ 23:31] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #6: Stand By Me <JewelTook> [7/8 @ 21:08] (11/11)

Couple of Responses <Alveric> [7/9 @ 9:58] (0/0)
Resisting evil. <Morwen> [7/9 @ 9:14] (0/0)
Frodo's will is stronger than Sam's, <Curious> [7/9 @ 3:25] (0/0)
Yet another agreement <Kimi> [7/9 @ 2:49] (0/0)
Frodo taking charge <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/9 @ 0:15] (0/0)
Free agents <notlost> [7/9 @ 0:07] (0/0)
The will of Shelob <Arod the Swift> [7/8 @ 23:40] (0/0)
other evils that don't control <hatster> [7/8 @ 23:20] (0/0)
my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/8 @ 23:11] (0/0)
My second go at this chapter... <WhiteLadyEowyn> [7/8 @ 21:31] (0/0)
Shelob doesn't have a Ring (thank goodness!) <erather> [7/8 @ 21:22] (0/0)

Question regarding Elves and their dead <piccolo> [7/8 @ 18:57] (5/9)

Elven mourning <PhantomS> [7/12 @ 11:12] (0/0)
A scene.... <Golfimbul> [7/9 @ 12:11] (0/0)
Many thanks <piccolo> [7/9 @ 11:42] (0/0)
Rituals <Azree> [7/9 @ 0:40] (0/0)
Feanor..... <Golfimbul> [7/8 @ 20:04] (2/4)

Burial mounds <Atlas> [7/9 @ 7:21] (0/0)
Um, about Arwen's mound.... <erather> [7/8 @ 20:08] (1/2)

Depending on whether you think her brothers... <Kathira> [7/8 @ 22:45] (1/1)

good theory...that would be nice (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/8 @ 23:52] (0/0)

Return of the King <LorienEvenstar> [7/8 @ 18:32] (6/8)

Agreed! <notlost> [7/9 @ 0:15] (0/0)
No question <Arod the Swift> [7/8 @ 23:47] (1/1)

me too! <LorienEvenstar> [7/9 @ 15:57] (0/0)

Like I always say... <Lairosion> [7/8 @ 22:15] (1/1)

I agree <patric44> [7/9 @ 14:56] (0/0)

I'm rereading it just now too. <hatster> [7/8 @ 20:36] (0/0)
That's how I feel every time I read it! <erather> [7/8 @ 19:25] (0/0)
Hmmm... <Narsil Anduril> [7/8 @ 18:47] (0/0)

Stupid question <smitty1707> [7/8 @ 16:37] (3/5)

less hasty answers <PhantomS> [7/11 @ 23:37] (0/0)
very hasty answers <drogo_drogo> [7/8 @ 17:04] (0/0)
Well... <Rider Of The Rohirrim> [7/8 @ 17:00] (1/2)

84? <Dlz> [7/8 @ 17:16] (1/1)

Hehe, actually, the 84... <Rider Of The Rohirrim> [7/8 @ 22:40] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #5: Wait Until Dark <JewelTook> [7/8 @ 10:17] (9/13)

spiders and snakes <spencer> [7/9 @ 12:41] (0/0)
Ahh, spiders... <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 3:55] (1/2)

And have a look at <NZ Strider> [7/9 @ 4:00] (1/1)

Oooh, soft and tickly, fuzzy and nice... <Kathira> [7/9 @ 8:30] (0/0)

Spiders <Arod the Swift> [7/8 @ 23:34] (0/0)
Creepy, crawly...creepy, crawly... <wajeff> [7/8 @ 20:22] (0/0)
Ungoliant bloated by the Light <Curious> [7/8 @ 17:31] (1/1)

E�rendil and Ungoliant <Alveric> [7/9 @ 11:36] (0/0)

The Two Spiders and Tolkien's repression <drogo_drogo> [7/8 @ 15:33] (0/0)
I hate spiders <gullygilly> [7/8 @ 15:19] (0/0)
And denial is just a river in Egypt. (No Text) <nerdanel50> [7/8 @ 11:36] (0/0)
The mysterious note... <Reverend> [7/8 @ 10:45] (1/1)

...and the eyes, don't forget the eyes! (No Text) <erather> [7/8 @ 19:51] (0/0)

The Silmarils and the Elven rings <Tary�v�wen > [7/8 @ 0:52] (1/4)

They are not identifiable <PhantomS> [7/8 @ 4:46] (2/3)

Remember that the Silmarils were specially... <Reverend> [7/8 @ 10:57] (1/1)

Silamrils-power or powerful? <PhantomS> [7/8 @ 11:59] (0/0)

Good for signaling planes <Temujin> [7/8 @ 8:53] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #4: Creep Show <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 21:33] (9/20)

True friendship <Arod the Swift> [7/8 @ 23:26] (1/1)

I agree <piccolo> [7/9 @ 12:09] (0/0)

"There's no place like home" <erather> [7/8 @ 19:47] (0/0)
Gollum is not epically horrible. <Curious> [7/8 @ 13:11] (0/0)
Horror and friendship <nerdanel50> [7/8 @ 11:21] (0/0)
My late-for-work thoughts. <Morwen> [7/8 @ 9:30] (1/3)

Kairos once again <notlost> [7/8 @ 9:46] (2/2)

pride and self-restraint <drogo_drogo> [7/8 @ 16:56] (0/0)
Aragorn is proud to *serve.* <Curious> [7/8 @ 11:19] (0/0)

Some thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/8 @ 0:23] (3/4)

Tunnels and death <Princess of Geekland> [7/9 @ 8:42] (0/0)
death journey and rebirth <drogo_drogo> [7/8 @ 15:16] (0/0)
Nice excavation <notlost> [7/8 @ 9:56] (1/1)

Sometimes a tunnel is just a tunnel? ;-) (No Text) <nerdanel50> [7/8 @ 10:55] (0/0)

my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/8 @ 0:12] (0/0)
My first time participating in the RR discussions... <WhiteLadyEowyn> [7/7 @ 22:47] (3/3)

Well said. And welcome! <Curious> [7/8 @ 11:34] (0/0)
Good to see you here! <notlost> [7/8 @ 9:35] (0/0)
Welcome! <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 23:33] (0/0)

For one thing, nasty is easier... <Reverend> [7/7 @ 21:46] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #3: Signs <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 21:17] (9/14)

My thoughts <Arod the Swift> [7/8 @ 23:13] (0/0)
thoughts <drogo_drogo> [7/8 @ 14:47] (1/1)

In Moria, Frodo had <erather> [7/8 @ 18:18] (0/0)

Tolkien involves all five senses in this description.. <Morwen> [7/8 @ 9:05] (1/1)

Four senses, anyway. <Curious> [7/8 @ 11:38] (0/0)

This darkness has a physical presence. <Curious> [7/8 @ 8:53] (1/3)

Tangible fear <notlost> [7/8 @ 10:08] (1/2)

I doubt that any ordinary light <Curious> [7/8 @ 10:56] (1/1)

Excellent point (No Text) <notlost> [7/8 @ 17:45] (0/0)

Some (quick) thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 23:48] (0/0)
The feeling of things brushing <nerdanel50> [7/7 @ 23:21] (0/0)
my thougts... <wajeff> [7/7 @ 22:47] (0/0)
Moria was a battlefield... <Reverend> [7/7 @ 21:35] (0/0)
Seriously scary! <Kimi> [7/7 @ 21:30] (0/0)

Who is 'She'? <Lairosion> [7/7 @ 21:04] (2/2)

A clue from Appendix A: <Kimi> [7/7 @ 21:11] (0/0)
According to Appendix A I (iii) <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 21:11] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #2: History of the World: Part 1 <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 8:54] (9/10)

Mordor has maintained the tunnel for <Curious> [7/7 @ 23:45] (0/0)
Secrets and shadows. <Morwen> [7/7 @ 22:22] (0/0)
tunnels and names <drogo_drogo> [7/7 @ 15:29] (0/0)
not much to add... <wajeff> [7/7 @ 15:27] (0/0)
Some of the tunnels <nerdanel50> [7/7 @ 15:20] (0/0)
Place-names tell you a lot. <erather> [7/7 @ 15:03] (0/0)
I agree with the Phantom and Reverend <Arod the Swift> [7/7 @ 14:58] (0/0)
I'm with Reverend here <PhantomS> [7/7 @ 10:46] (0/0)
Ah, and to where did Shelob retreat... <Reverend> [7/7 @ 10:12] (1/1)

Tolkien reuses that line <Curious> [7/7 @ 12:42] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair #1: Arachnophobia <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 8:52] (13/19)

French translation <Menelwyn> [7/8 @ 19:48] (0/0)
emphasis <notlost> [7/8 @ 9:30] (1/3)

Cob <spencer> [7/8 @ 16:05] (1/2)

But what I want to know.... <notlost> [7/8 @ 17:49] (1/1)

Oh, ok <spencer> [7/9 @ 9:54] (0/0)

Giving away the threat is a classic Hitchcock move. <Curious> [7/7 @ 23:24] (0/0)
I certainly didn't get much of it <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 17:09] (1/1)

Addendum: "lob"; etc. <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 22:59] (0/0)

Lob <Kimi> [7/7 @ 16:41] (0/0)
Finnish translation <Suni> [7/7 @ 15:40] (1/2)

That's interesting. <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 21:47] (1/1)

You're welcome! :-) (No Text) <Suni> [7/8 @ 8:47] (0/0)

"Lazy lob and crazy cob!" <wajeff> [7/7 @ 15:20] (0/0)
a lob by any other name... <drogo_drogo> [7/7 @ 15:12] (0/0)
No need for ambiguity <Arod the Swift> [7/7 @ 14:53] (0/0)
Nice creatures don't live in "lairs". <erather> [7/7 @ 14:28] (0/0)
Here <Estella Brandybuck> [7/7 @ 12:06] (0/0)
Well, it's been fairly clear <nerdanel50> [7/7 @ 10:04] (0/0)
I have to confess... <Reverend> [7/7 @ 9:54] (0/0)

Couple of obscure elvish questions <Alveric> [7/7 @ 4:26] (3/4)

Dorwinion is an old conundrum. <NZ Strider> [7/7 @ 7:10] (0/0)
Avari question <Kimi> [7/7 @ 7:10] (0/0)
Dorwinion <PhantomS> [7/7 @ 5:00] (1/1)

Aha! Thanks everyone. <Alveric> [7/7 @ 16:22] (0/0)

Anyone else mention this? <NoneOfTheAbove> [7/6 @ 19:37] (8/14)

I'm thinking Frodo was talking in his sleep <Bree Baggins> [7/9 @ 23:04] (0/0)
Thanks for all the great replies! (No Text) <NoneOfTheAbove> [7/8 @ 18:38] (0/0)
Gandalf sensed Frodo was wearing the Ring at Amon Hen <Altaira> [7/7 @ 2:02] (3/4)

asleep <FantasyFan> [7/9 @ 7:46] (0/0)
The ring had <oloin> [7/7 @ 9:43] (0/0)
Lead ore in the rock <Kimi> [7/7 @ 3:45] (1/1)

Perhaps Gandalf's sight worked <Curious> [7/7 @ 13:08] (0/0)

I believe... <Thorongil2931> [7/6 @ 23:46] (0/0)
Frodo had the Ring for 17 years.� It <Curious> [7/6 @ 21:53] (1/2)

You may be mistaken... <Fountain_head> [7/6 @ 22:12] (1/1)

You're both right. <Atlas> [7/7 @ 4:32] (0/0)

I think Gandalf and the elves <Entmaiden> [7/6 @ 21:16] (0/0)
I believe... <Dlz> [7/6 @ 20:54] (0/0)
Several possible answers... <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 20:25] (0/0)

Shelob�s Lair: Introduction <JewelTook> [7/6 @ 15:36] (2/4)

Open Discussion? <Curious> [7/6 @ 21:21] (1/1)

*snert* <JewelTook> [7/7 @ 2:03] (0/0)

great minds think alike... <drogo_drogo> [7/6 @ 16:25] (1/1)

then there's <Golfimbul> [7/7 @ 22:20] (0/0)

Some pronunciation help, please? <Marigold Gamgee> [7/6 @ 12:31] (3/4)

An educated guess... <Lairosion> [7/6 @ 13:55] (0/0)
Probably wrong but <Thorongil2931> [7/6 @ 13:23] (1/1)

It's not a Khuzdul name though. <Marigold Gamgee> [7/6 @ 15:39] (0/0)

Not the expert , but <PhantomS> [7/6 @ 12:52] (0/0)

"The Stairs of Cirith Ungol" Summary <drogo_drogo> [7/6 @ 10:06] (15/15)

Well done, DD.... <notlost> [7/8 @ 11:36] (0/0)
I'm ignoring a mound of laundry <Merryk> [7/7 @ 22:39] (0/0)
Thanks, drogo drogo. <Morwen> [7/7 @ 20:59] (0/0)
Wonderful discussion, drogo! <Altaira> [7/7 @ 2:08] (0/0)
Great job! Thanks! (No Text) <Acathalion> [7/6 @ 20:35] (0/0)
Great job, thanks. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/6 @ 20:18] (0/0)
A wonderful job! Thanks so much. (No Text) <Kimi> [7/6 @ 19:20] (0/0)
Cheers! (No Text) <beren_boy> [7/6 @ 18:22] (0/0)
Well done. (No Text) <Reverend> [7/6 @ 17:11] (0/0)
thank you! (No Text) <wajeff> [7/6 @ 16:46] (0/0)
Thanks for the discussion and summary! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 16:35] (0/0)
Great week! Thanks <nerdanel50> [7/6 @ 14:45] (0/0)
Thank you, great job!! I agree with hatster <Curious> [7/6 @ 13:18] (0/0)
Thanks, drogo, for a great discussion. <JewelTook> [7/6 @ 12:43] (0/0)
Wow! from memory??!! <hatster> [7/6 @ 10:14] (0/0)

pointless stupid questions <hatster> [7/6 @ 8:20] (7/14)

Gandalf doesn't *need* explosives! <Curious> [7/6 @ 13:32] (0/0)
artillery <kodax> [7/6 @ 13:31] (0/0)
stupid pointless answers <Thorongil2931> [7/6 @ 13:18] (0/0)
fireworks versus weapon of mass destruction <drogo_drogo> [7/6 @ 12:01] (1/4)

Black powder isn't "evil"... <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/6 @ 12:24] (2/3)

Gunpowder.. <Macca> [7/6 @ 15:05] (1/1)

Very good point! <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/7 @ 8:16] (0/0)

Roger Bacon <drogo_drogo> [7/6 @ 13:52] (0/0)

Well... <Reverend> [7/6 @ 11:07] (1/1)

deploring, perhaps, evils done along the way <Linguilindale> [7/6 @ 11:36] (0/0)

Pointless stupid answers? <Macca> [7/6 @ 10:07] (1/2)

This is a bit like the point of view... <beren_boy> [7/6 @ 18:26] (1/1)

It depends on what you mean as evil. <kodax> [7/6 @ 21:15] (0/0)

pointy answers <PhantomS> [7/6 @ 9:20] (0/0)

The nature of the Istari? <Macca> [7/5 @ 15:43] (6/10)

how do you know all this??? <Tomsk> [7/10 @ 8:18] (0/0)
I'm afraid not. <Atlas> [7/9 @ 7:41] (1/1)

Nice cite! <Curious> [7/9 @ 13:11] (0/0)

my take <PhantomS> [7/6 @ 9:32] (0/0)
I would say it is a stretch. <Curious> [7/5 @ 18:56] (1/2)

not just a master of lore <Linguilindale> [7/5 @ 20:02] (1/1)

Well, Nienna was not <Curious> [7/5 @ 20:43] (0/0)

It makes some sense, if... <Fountain_head> [7/5 @ 17:37] (0/0)
Yes... <Entish_FreedomFighter> [7/5 @ 17:35] (1/1)

Of course! <Macca> [7/6 @ 10:40] (0/0)

"The Stairs of Cirith Ungol": Cirith Ungol Free-for-All <drogo_drogo> [7/5 @ 8:02] (3/15)

Just picking up on a comment of wajeff's... <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 3:26] (2/3)

I was (mostly) being facetious... <wajeff> [7/6 @ 16:45] (0/0)
A quibble and an acknowledgement. <Curious> [7/6 @ 8:34] (1/1)

hypothetical Frodo/Sam p.o.v. and what might have been <drogo_drogo> [7/6 @ 10:37] (0/0)

What *does* Gollum do while the hobbits sleep? <Curious> [7/5 @ 10:17] (1/1)

Shelob isn't your average spider <erather> [7/5 @ 15:38] (0/0)

a few questions <hatster> [7/5 @ 9:53] (4/8)

Sam's jealousy <Kimi> [7/7 @ 1:39] (1/1)

jealousy is very unlike Sam <Fisher> [7/7 @ 12:49] (0/0)

playing hobbit one last time and Sam <drogo_drogo> [7/6 @ 10:15] (0/0)
It is not, I judge, that complicated. <Curious> [7/6 @ 2:00] (1/2)

repentance doen't just happen <hatster> [7/6 @ 7:18] (1/1)

A little of all of that, I suppose. <Curious> [7/6 @ 13:09] (0/0)

Sam & Gollum <nerdanel50> [7/5 @ 14:22] (1/1)

If Frodo had told Gollum his intentions... <Kathira> [7/5 @ 21:18] (0/0)

shelob <estel7> [7/3 @ 20:13] (5/6)

Wow.. I always said SHAYlob... (No Text) <Farawyn> [7/6 @ 22:04] (0/0)
Pronounciation.. <Macca> [7/6 @ 10:09] (0/0)
We will know when ROTK comes out. <Fountain_head> [7/5 @ 17:32] (1/1)

Will We? <Ostadan> [7/7 @ 10:56] (0/0)

I pronounce it... <Tomsk> [7/4 @ 8:35] (0/0)
She-lob <ZG1> [7/3 @ 20:26] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 11: Sam�s �Sneak� Attack and There�s No Turning Back Now <drogo_drogo> [7/3 @ 17:52] (12/15)

Nothing to add -- great discussion, folks! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 3:14] (0/0)
Sam is right, after all <erather> [7/4 @ 14:35] (0/0)
Who am I to blame Sam? <Curious> [7/4 @ 11:06] (0/0)
Hum. <Atlas> [7/4 @ 2:49] (0/0)
Give Sam a little credit here. <JewelTook> [7/3 @ 23:26] (0/0)
I think I'm going to have to agree with hatster... <Amrunofthesummercountry> [7/3 @ 23:04] (1/1)

And I'm going to have to agree with you <Altaira> [7/5 @ 1:25] (0/0)

Tolkien was bitten by a huge hairy spider <Marigold Gamgee> [7/3 @ 22:55] (0/0)
my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/3 @ 22:35] (0/0)
It makes me weep <Kimi> [7/3 @ 21:12] (0/0)
there age-long she had dwelt <Linguilindale> [7/3 @ 20:25] (0/0)
I find it hard to answer at length... <Reverend> [7/3 @ 18:51] (1/2)

I have to agree with Reverend. <beren_boy> [7/3 @ 21:37] (1/1)

Yup! (No Text) <Merryk> [7/7 @ 22:45] (0/0)

Sam did good darn it! <hatster> [7/3 @ 18:38] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 10: The Choices of Master Sm�agol <drogo_drogo> [7/3 @ 17:48] (8/18)

Continuing belatedly... <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 3:11] (0/0)
Gollum wonders <nerdanel50> [7/4 @ 14:33] (1/1)

What Gollum saw. <Merryk> [7/7 @ 23:10] (0/0)

The "tragedy of Gollum" (Tolkien's words, <Curious> [7/4 @ 10:48] (1/1)

That's a tidy explanation - <Merryk> [7/7 @ 22:56] (0/0)

Question 2. <Atlas> [7/4 @ 1:23] (0/0)
I just want to know... <wajeff> [7/3 @ 21:03] (1/4)

The narrator of LotR is *not* Frodo or Sam. <Curious> [7/4 @ 7:59] (1/3)

But it is sometimes interesting <nerdanel50> [7/4 @ 13:35] (1/2)

But Sam's the "editor" <erather> [7/4 @ 14:39] (1/1)

to further the game <FantasyFan> [7/5 @ 11:54] (0/0)

Gollum <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 19:04] (0/0)
Who, me? <Reverend> [7/3 @ 18:40] (2/4)

What you (and hatster) said. <Kimi> [7/3 @ 20:59] (0/0)
Yes about Sam as the tragic hero...and more than you say <hatster> [7/3 @ 18:48] (2/2)

Not only that, but <JewelTook> [7/3 @ 22:58] (0/0)
And moreover... <Reverend> [7/3 @ 18:52] (0/0)

Michelangelo's Piet� link (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [7/3 @ 17:50] (0/0)

Robin Gamgee/ Gardener (Story Spoiler - appendix) <Stephanie> [7/3 @ 13:18] (3/6)

He was named after Robin Smallburow-- a boy. (No Text) <Marigold Gamgee> [7/3 @ 22:37] (0/0)
Boy. <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 13:38] (0/0)
boy - think Robin Hood (No Text) <Fisher> [7/3 @ 13:25] (1/3)

Robin Hood's not from ME (No Text) <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 13:39] (1/2)

Stephanie seemed to be asking <Fisher> [7/3 @ 13:47] (1/1)

Yes, I was asking both <Stephanie> [7/3 @ 14:11] (0/0)

Beowolf <Nessa S�ralond� > [7/3 @ 12:07] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 9: Samwise the Stouthearted and the Famousest of the Hobbits <drogo_drogo> [7/3 @ 6:47] (6/9)

More belated thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/6 @ 2:36] (0/0)
Gollum, Second Age Superstar <Acathalion> [7/5 @ 22:28] (0/0)
Sam the astute <hatster> [7/3 @ 17:33] (0/0)
For those who know the ending, Sam's <Curious> [7/3 @ 15:00] (1/1)

It always saddened me that <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 15:16] (0/0)

First time in a discussion� :) <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 12:39] (2/2)

glad to have you <drogo_drogo> [7/3 @ 17:55] (0/0)
Welcome! <Curious> [7/3 @ 14:23] (0/0)

Is is right, but maybe for the wrong reasons. <Reverend> [7/3 @ 12:38] (0/0)

"The Stairs of Cirith Ungol" 8: Sam and the Seamless Web of Story <drogo_drogo> [7/3 @ 6:43] (5/6)

Some belated thoughts, and probably <NZ Strider> [7/5 @ 0:33] (0/0)
I hadn't read the Silmarillion <erather> [7/3 @ 18:53] (0/0)
To Tolkien, LOTR was merely a continuation <Altaira> [7/3 @ 13:30] (0/0)
Tolkien couldn't help himself. <Curious> [7/3 @ 11:32] (0/0)
Sense of Depth. <Reverend> [7/3 @ 10:04] (1/1)

the Curse of the Elf-Friends... <wajeff> [7/3 @ 22:41] (0/0)

Can someone please tell me... <patric44> [7/3 @ 2:06] (1/2)

Gandalf tells the story <NZ Strider> [7/3 @ 2:12] (1/1)

Thanks <patric44> [7/3 @ 3:24] (0/0)

a question about the chapter discussions <jadeshadow> [7/2 @ 22:29] (3/8)

You might try... <Atlas> [7/3 @ 3:09] (0/0)
I wonder..... <Golfimbul> [7/3 @ 2:29] (0/0)
Saving the discussions <Altaira> [7/3 @ 2:26] (2/5)

I think this is the link you had in mind. (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/3 @ 10:37] (0/0)
a link to the few archives <hatster> [7/3 @ 7:48] (1/3)

Thanks hatster & Curious <Altaira> [7/3 @ 12:34] (2/2)

hmmm I had tried that once <hatster> [7/3 @ 17:14] (0/0)
Now if only that valuable information could be published <erather> [7/3 @ 13:50] (0/0)

The one ring <Nessa S�ralond� > [7/2 @ 15:35] (2/6)

the one ring <Nessa S�ralond� > [7/2 @ 15:47] (0/0)
The quick answer is... <Reverend> [7/2 @ 15:42] (1/4)

Life certainly would have been a lot easier... <Nimrodel > [7/3 @ 0:05] (1/3)

Sorry if I'm being a stickler here, but <Lairosion> [7/3 @ 1:07] (1/2)

Yes, why? (No Text) <Nimrodel > [7/3 @ 9:43] (1/1)

because <Fisher> [7/3 @ 10:27] (0/0)

**July chapter discussion leaders** <Altaira> [7/2 @ 15:01] (5/10)

Just checked with Froda <Lothirienne> [7/7 @ 20:20] (0/0)
I'm still on. <Elwen> [7/3 @ 15:59] (1/1)

Great! <Altaira> [7/3 @ 16:17] (0/0)

Psst..... Altaira <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 12:44] (1/2)

Got it <Altaira> [7/3 @ 14:29] (1/1)

Thanks! ^-^ (No Text) <Estella Brandybuck> [7/3 @ 14:56] (0/0)

*Raises hand* <JewelTook> [7/2 @ 17:34] (1/1)

Duly noted <Altaira> [7/3 @ 2:31] (0/0)

Here! <notlost> [7/2 @ 16:06] (1/1)

Check <Altaira> [7/3 @ 2:29] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 7: Sam�s Speech, or There and Back Again <drogo_drogo> [7/2 @ 12:35] (7/15)

the last question and the missing sense of scale <hatster> [7/2 @ 22:46] (1/2)

playing devil's (err...PJ's) advocate <Fisher> [7/3 @ 10:05] (1/1)

which is a fault not a defense <hatster> [7/3 @ 17:12] (0/0)

my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/2 @ 20:36] (0/0)
Sam is a hero, but he realizes <Curious> [7/2 @ 20:05] (0/0)
A hero despite himself <Kimi> [7/2 @ 19:27] (0/0)
My comments <Altaira> [7/2 @ 16:39] (0/0)
Some thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 16:08] (1/1)

Another relocated idea <Merryk> [7/3 @ 0:18] (0/0)

Note that the movie version misses the point entirely. <Reverend> [7/2 @ 15:29] (3/5)

I detect a melding of the "northern spirit" <Curious> [7/8 @ 11:08] (0/0)
Very minor addition. <Atlas> [7/3 @ 3:46] (0/0)
agree, plus <spencer> [7/2 @ 16:09] (1/2)

The quote of the week: <Merryk> [7/3 @ 0:46] (1/1)

keeping faith <spencer> [7/3 @ 8:23] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 6: You Take the High Road and I�ll Take the Low Road and I�ll Be in Mordor Before Ye <drogo_drogo> [7/2 @ 6:49] (12/23)

add my thoughts... <wajeff> [7/2 @ 20:55] (0/0)
Tolkien does not make this easy. <Curious> [7/2 @ 19:44] (1/5)

My understanding is... <Reverend> [7/2 @ 21:28] (1/4)

But then how do you <Curious> [7/2 @ 21:55] (1/3)

The artificial path ... <Reverend> [7/2 @ 23:47] (1/2)

Yet another <Curious> [7/3 @ 8:18] (1/1)

Maybe Faramir and the Wise are just as shaky on the geography as we are! <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/3 @ 8:34] (0/0)

Ouch! My toes! <JewelTook> [7/2 @ 18:03] (0/0)
stairs image <drogo_drogo> [7/2 @ 15:14] (0/0)
My UUT about the pass <Altaira> [7/2 @ 14:48] (0/0)
Ah! A map! <Matthew/Ugluk> [7/2 @ 12:10] (0/0)
YOU try climbing 900' of stairs.... <Reverend> [7/2 @ 10:58] (1/3)

On stair climbing <erather> [7/2 @ 13:16] (1/2)

Thank You. <Reverend> [7/2 @ 15:34] (1/1)

Durthang is also <Curious> [7/3 @ 9:22] (0/0)

I mind where we parted in yon shady glen, on the steep steep side of "Cirith Ungol" <Lothirienne> [7/2 @ 10:41] (0/0)
The high road and putting one foot in front of another <FantasyFan> [7/2 @ 9:23] (1/1)

yes, I forgot that in the song, well the low road *is* the Wraith-road! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [7/2 @ 12:29] (0/0)

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way...and few there be that find it. <Atlas> [7/2 @ 7:48] (0/0)
But me and my true love will never meet again <NZ Strider> [7/2 @ 7:27] (1/2)

videliciet? My new word for the day! <Lothirienne> [7/2 @ 10:42] (1/1)

Videlicet: "it is clear" / clearly, plainly, namely <erather> [7/2 @ 14:34] (0/0)

A few thoughts <Kimi> [7/2 @ 7:17] (0/0)

Re-reading the Sil... <Tary�v�wen > [7/2 @ 1:05] (5/5)

Print out a map of Beleriand <Rain Queen> [7/8 @ 4:55] (0/0)
www.glyphweb.com/arda (No Text) <Reddevil> [7/7 @ 8:55] (0/0)
Make copies <Altaira> [7/2 @ 14:56] (0/0)
I know what I'm doing.... <CAhobbit> [7/2 @ 14:15] (0/0)
Read around the Silmarillion as well <Alveric> [7/2 @ 4:24] (0/0)

Newbie Question <Pbobes> [7/1 @ 19:16] (2/5)

Ooh, I can answer this! <Smokering> [7/2 @ 5:12] (1/1)

Geeky? I think not! Hehe.. (No Text) <tolkien_wings> [7/2 @ 15:25] (0/0)

After the Hobbit... <Silverlode> [7/1 @ 19:33] (1/2)

yep... I agree <ElfEarz> [7/6 @ 16:24] (1/1)

One more... <nick_orf> [7/6 @ 23:47] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 5: Other Fronts and Frodo�s Despair <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 18:16] (10/15)

How many troops *are* marching here? <Curious> [7/2 @ 10:06] (1/1)

Sauron probably threw in more troops than planned <drogo_drogo> [7/2 @ 14:18] (0/0)

I'm late to this party <hatster> [7/2 @ 7:20] (0/0)
My thoughts <Kimi> [7/1 @ 22:56] (0/0)
Frodo the selfish or Frodo the self-aggrandizing?? :-) <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 21:23] (0/0)
Frodo's lament is oddly personal... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 21:20] (0/0)
Frodo's despair <erather> [7/1 @ 21:07] (0/0)
Hope and Glory <nerdanel50> [7/1 @ 20:51] (2/2)

Maybe Frodo has not reached bottom, <Curious> [7/2 @ 10:14] (0/0)
Faramir, Aragorn, Galadriel et al. <Merryk> [7/1 @ 23:41] (0/0)

For those who don't have Fonstad: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/1 @ 18:35] (1/1)

Thanks, I was posting that link tomorrow, but consider this a preview :-) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 18:39] (0/0)

a little change of a(l)ttitude <notlost> [7/1 @ 18:30] (0/0)
Some thoughts... <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 18:26] (1/1)

Selfish temptations <notlost> [7/1 @ 18:34] (0/0)

Old English <Villordsutch> [7/1 @ 17:51] (1/1)

Don't know the site, <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 18:13] (0/0)

Aragorns Sword <strider28> [7/1 @ 16:40] (3/8)

He receives the shards of Narsil <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 16:52] (1/4)

I always hoped that Strider <erather> [7/1 @ 18:10] (1/3)

He must have had <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 18:29] (1/2)

Aragorn the Ninja <PhantomS> [7/2 @ 5:33] (1/1)

even the shards of Narsil <FantasyFan> [7/2 @ 9:28] (0/0)

IIRC, I do believe that he... <Weige> [7/1 @ 16:52] (0/0)
He shows it to Frodo in Bree <FaramirFan> [7/1 @ 16:50] (1/1)

Beat me by a minute!! : ) (No Text) <Weige> [7/1 @ 16:53] (0/0)

Which was born first? <Elfstarbrow> [7/1 @ 14:06] (5/6)

Faramir's birthday <FantasyFan> [7/2 @ 9:38] (0/0)
Boromir's birthdate... <huorn> [7/1 @ 15:20] (0/0)
Ah-hah <Elfstarbrow> [7/1 @ 15:04] (0/0)
It's always been my understanding. . . <WhiteAslan> [7/1 @ 14:49] (0/0)
Im not aware of any such reference... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 14:39] (1/1)

Well it's not me... <Elfstarbrow> [7/1 @ 15:02] (0/0)

Star of Elendil <Faramir's dream> [7/1 @ 13:27] (2/4)

Didn't he give him the Elfstone? maybe I am mistaken.... (No Text) <Orange Blossom Toadfoot> [7/3 @ 14:38] (0/0)
Again, we're stuck. <PhantomS> [7/1 @ 13:52] (1/2)

I like to think <Curious> [7/1 @ 13:59] (1/1)

Yes, and... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 14:45] (0/0)

Another Nazgul? <Lairosion> [7/1 @ 12:31] (1/12)

It makes sense.... <Golfimbul> [7/1 @ 12:40] (1/11)

Lord of the Balrogs? <dryholla> [7/1 @ 12:50] (1/10)

We have no idea <PhantomS> [7/1 @ 12:59] (2/9)

Mouth of Sauron <kodax> [7/1 @ 13:25] (3/7)

How could Mouth get WK's ring? <erather> [7/2 @ 19:04] (2/3)

Where ARE the Nine? <PhantomS> [7/3 @ 11:16] (0/0)
Almost certainly agrre with you, but... <Alveric> [7/3 @ 10:29] (1/1)

Check this out: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [7/3 @ 12:53] (0/0)

But he seems like such a wimp. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [7/1 @ 15:31] (0/0)
Sauron didn't MAKE the 3, the 7, or the 9... <Advising Elf> [7/1 @ 15:30] (1/1)

kodax is kinda right <PhantomS> [7/2 @ 5:37] (0/0)

I've always taken Gothmog to be one of the remaining 8 <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 13:14] (0/0)

�The Stairs of Cirith Ungol� 4: The Hobbit, the Witch-king, the Ring, and the Phial (sounds like a lost C.S. Lewis novel) <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 6:38] (7/21)

Is it so far fetched <Merryk> [7/1 @ 18:38] (3/7)

Frodo is not a puppet, *and* <Curious> [7/2 @ 9:33] (1/4)

We're splitting hairs, <Merryk> [7/2 @ 23:12] (1/3)

Is Sting an intervention <Curious> [7/3 @ 8:21] (1/2)

Mmmmm... <Merryk> [7/3 @ 11:33] (1/1)

And Frodo had to <Curious> [7/3 @ 13:35] (0/0)

I'm with... <spencer> [7/2 @ 8:59] (0/0)
hear hear! <wajeff> [7/1 @ 20:39] (0/0)

"Wraith-king's dark hose following him"? ;-) (No Text) <Suni> [7/1 @ 17:09] (1/3)

Water or nylon? (No Text) <Curious> [7/1 @ 17:31] (1/2)

Lederhosen... this is a Germanic legend (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 17:54] (1/1)

*snert* (No Text) <notlost> [7/1 @ 18:37] (0/0)

What is the Witch King riding? <erather> [7/1 @ 15:12] (0/0)
I don't see the disconnect yet. <Curious> [7/1 @ 14:29] (0/0)
The Witch King drew an ace of Hearts... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 10:51] (0/0)
my UUT about the phial <FantasyFan> [7/1 @ 7:52] (0/0)
Opposing wills <Kimi> [7/1 @ 6:59] (1/4)

Ooo, lovely thought! <Reverend> [7/1 @ 10:33] (1/3)

I'm not so sure about this. <Atlas> [7/2 @ 7:26] (1/2)

It's fun, not logical... <Reverend> [7/2 @ 10:42] (1/1)

I have fun with the logic. <Atlas> [7/3 @ 2:58] (0/0)

"The Stairs of Cirith Ungol" 3: The Army Departs and Multiple Storylines <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 6:25] (7/16)

Sound and fury. <Atlas> [7/2 @ 6:54] (0/0)
My UUT is that <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 16:40] (0/0)
Sauron and the mountain <erather> [7/1 @ 13:58] (0/0)
Of course Sauron manipulates Orodruin. <Curious> [7/1 @ 13:55] (1/1)

The timing <JewelTook> [7/2 @ 11:19] (0/0)

Then there's the speed of sound thing. <Reverend> [7/1 @ 10:26] (4/7)

interesting question on sound... <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 16:36] (0/0)
Well-observed on the sound. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 16:29] (0/0)
I agree that Oroduin <nerdanel50> [7/1 @ 15:20] (0/0)
No problem.... <Golfimbul> [7/1 @ 10:33] (1/3)

Correct. <Curious> [7/1 @ 13:35] (1/2)

Seriously... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 14:59] (1/1)

The sound <Curious> [7/1 @ 15:52] (0/0)

contol and suspense <FantasyFan> [7/1 @ 8:09] (1/1)

Glad I'm not the only one! <spencer> [7/1 @ 12:07] (0/0)

Sauron and Orodruin <Kimi> [7/1 @ 6:36] (0/0)

Relics from First Age <kodax> [7/1 @ 3:43] (7/24)

The Balrog = First Age Artifact. Gandalf should be... <Weige> [7/1 @ 11:38] (1/2)

Cirdan, OLD? or Older? <Sharkey's_end> [7/2 @ 2:15] (1/1)

Good point! It is very likely that he did... <Weige> [7/2 @ 10:17] (0/0)

One COULD call the planet Venus... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 11:05] (2/4)

Actually... <Reddevil> [7/1 @ 14:23] (1/2)

Aragorn gave it to Arwen... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 14:36] (1/1)

A rather nice gesture, really <ZG1> [7/1 @ 21:32] (0/0)

The Sun and the Moon <Curious> [7/1 @ 11:33] (0/0)

the phial too contains Silmaril light <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 10:04] (1/10)

Well <Reddevil> [7/1 @ 10:54] (2/9)

I like to note... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 11:07] (1/7)

I didn't quite get that? <Reddevil> [7/1 @ 14:21] (1/6)

Feanor made the palantir... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 14:49] (3/5)

Or maybe <Curious> [7/1 @ 15:27] (1/2)

I am not at all sure... <Reverend> [7/1 @ 16:10] (1/1)

It was Gandalf <Curious> [7/1 @ 17:26] (0/0)

Also <Reddevil> [7/1 @ 15:04] (0/0)
Well I don't know about that. <Reddevil> [7/1 @ 14:58] (0/0)

yeah, it's like the saint's fingernail or bone chip in a reliquary (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 11:01] (0/0)

The elves and the dwarves <Curious> [7/1 @ 7:10] (0/0)
And as far as elf leaders go... <ZG1> [7/1 @ 4:42] (0/0)
Don't forget: <NZ Strider> [7/1 @ 4:05] (0/0)
Nogrod and Belegost <Alveric> [7/1 @ 3:59] (1/1)

bones of the earth <Linguilindale> [7/1 @ 8:08] (0/0)

Beowulf - And not wanting to rip somebody off <Villordsutch> [7/1 @ 3:29] (2/3)

Have you tried <Dimmacil> [7/3 @ 9:11] (0/0)
another translation... <drogo_drogo> [7/1 @ 10:47] (1/1)

T'was an audio version I required... (No Text) <Villordsutch> [7/1 @ 14:17] (0/0)

About the Discussions <cubbyphan> [7/1 @ 0:09] (2/4)

I know it's not the same, but <Curious> [7/1 @ 7:16] (0/0)
The current discussion <Altaira> [7/1 @ 0:34] (1/2)

errr, may I have Dec. 15 <nerdanel50> [7/1 @ 1:22] (1/1)

I'd rather <Altaira> [7/2 @ 0:49] (0/0)