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Marquette Conference Discussions--John Garth #2 <galadhremmin> [11/30 @ 11:38] (8/9)

random reactions <an seileachan> [12/4 @ 17:45] (0/0)
Soldier Boys <Modtheow> [12/2 @ 23:51] (0/0)
A couple more images <nerdanel_50> [12/2 @ 3:13] (0/0)
a veteran writes about war <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30 @ 20:46] (0/0)
Wartime experience <drogo_drogo> [11/30 @ 19:38] (0/0)
I can't remember where I read this... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [11/30 @ 17:19] (0/0)
The imagery is only part of the story <squire > [11/30 @ 12:29] (1/1)

You're sounding like me in response <Curious> [11/30 @ 12:45] (0/0)

Although much of this is speculative, <Curious> [11/30 @ 12:15] (0/0)

Ruin of Doriath: What to get the elf lord who has everything <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30 @ 2:28] (3/5)

Hapless. <N.E. Brigand> [12/1 @ 16:59] (0/0)
From a material prospective... <Beren IV> [11/30 @ 16:43] (1/1)

Bad title <Beren IV> [11/30 @ 16:44] (0/0)

Hurin's end <drogo_drogo> [11/30 @ 10:07] (1/1)

As Beleg said to Mim <Galadriel1a> [11/30 @ 10:24] (0/0)

Marquette Conference Discussion--John Garth #1: Frodo and the Great War <galadhremmin> [11/30 @ 2:02] (8/56)

but Frodo is not honored like traditional heros... <nefisa3> [12/2 @ 1:04] (2/11)

A timely article on WWI memorials. <N.E. Brigand> [12/3 @ 12:53] (0/0)
Our local WWI memorial: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [12/2 @ 10:25] (2/9)

in Canada <Lúthien_Rising> [12/3 @ 14:13] (1/1)

The U.S. was there a short time <Curious> [12/3 @ 16:13] (0/0)

Melbourne's Shrine of Remembrance <Penthe> [12/2 @ 19:14] (1/6)

And Auckland's: <Kimi> [12/2 @ 19:35] (1/5)

New Zealand <Penthe> [12/2 @ 20:01] (2/4)

i think you've summed up better what i was trying to say... <nefisa3> [12/3 @ 0:03] (2/2)

an excellent point (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [12/3 @ 14:15] (0/0)
Yup (No Text) <Penthe> [12/3 @ 0:16] (0/0)

No need <Kimi> [12/2 @ 20:28] (0/0)

interesrting!!(spontaneous thoughts) <Galadriel1a> [11/30 @ 18:06] (0/0)
hope on trial <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30 @ 11:30] (1/1)

Tolkien did not despair. <Curious> [11/30 @ 12:07] (0/0)

Thank you - a topic dear to my heart <well he's back> [11/30 @ 10:03] (0/0)
Heroes <drogo_drogo> [11/30 @ 9:04] (2/26)

About T.E. Lawrence <Silent _ Watcher> [11/30 @ 12:29] (1/2)

"Beat him." <N.E. Brigand> [11/30 @ 13:04] (1/1)

yes, what happens in Derrera and Cirith <nefisa3> [12/2 @ 0:54] (0/0)

Sam is unduly modest. <Curious> [11/30 @ 11:23] (1/22)

so how do you interpret Gandalf's comment? <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30 @ 11:34] (1/21)

Frodo isn't the strongest or <Curious> [11/30 @ 11:55] (2/20)

*sobs* <Ascarwen> [12/6 @ 13:13] (1/1)

Pssst! <Advising Elf> [12/7 @ 9:01] (0/0)

Frodo: "everyman" or saint? <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/30 @ 21:33] (2/17)

The potential for sainthood <Curious> [12/1 @ 5:59] (0/0)
You took the words... <Modtheow> [12/1 @ 0:25] (2/15)

psst <Lúthien_Rising> [12/1 @ 10:54] (0/0)
"Saintly" Everyman <drogo_drogo> [12/1 @ 6:56] (1/13)

Saints are mortal. <Curious> [12/1 @ 7:05] (2/12)

no one could do better but <Entwife Wandlimb> [12/1 @ 10:11] (1/2)

Moses is a great example. <Curious> [12/1 @ 10:25] (1/1)

Moses <Curious> [12/1 @ 11:31] (0/0)

Technically, he's not <Entmaiden> [12/1 @ 9:20] (1/8)

Technically, schmechnically. <Curious> [12/1 @ 9:58] (2/7)

I'm not sure Tolkien would agree <Entmaiden> [12/1 @ 11:46] (1/4)

"Sanctified" <Curious> [12/1 @ 11:57] (1/3)

Saint-like <drogo_drogo> [12/1 @ 17:36] (1/2)

Angelic <Curious> [12/1 @ 17:55] (1/1)

Angel in Man's body <drogo_drogo> [12/1 @ 19:13] (0/0)

Frodo's "sanctification" <Modtheow> [12/1 @ 10:31] (1/1)

Very apt! <Curious> [12/1 @ 10:57] (0/0)

It wasn't just the War that inspired Tolkien <squire > [11/30 @ 8:34] (2/2)

yes, but the war is probably what caused... <nefisa3> [12/2 @ 1:09] (0/0)
I agree <Erestor Arcamen> [12/1 @ 18:34] (0/0)

LotR is like and unlike WWI. <Curious> [11/30 @ 7:52] (2/8)

Reception of returning veterans <linkinparkelf> [12/1 @ 2:52] (2/6)

There's a difference between <Lúthien_Rising> [12/1 @ 10:53] (1/1)

Goodbye to All That <FarFromHome> [12/1 @ 11:51] (0/0)

Frodo's companions <Curious> [12/1 @ 5:54] (1/3)

Battle of Bywater vs. Mordor <Modtheow> [12/1 @ 10:56] (2/2)

True <drogo_drogo> [12/1 @ 19:23] (0/0)
I think that's consistent with Tolkien's (or Frodo's) view of the Shire, <Entmaiden> [12/1 @ 11:56] (0/0)

perhaps you might say <Lúthien_Rising> [11/30 @ 9:41] (0/0)

Enjoyment? Yes <Penthe> [11/30 @ 4:43] (0/0)

More historical words <Beren IV> [11/29 @ 18:34] (1/2)

Balls & entertainments <Penthe> [11/29 @ 19:04] (1/1)

Tolkien's Armies. <Ceorl> [11/30 @ 5:51] (0/0)

Of the Ruin of Doriath: It's Not Easy being Hurin <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/29 @ 13:01] (7/13)

This could be a chapter itself. <N.E. Brigand> [12/1 @ 15:57] (0/0)
On #7 <Arquen> [11/30 @ 16:29] (0/0)
Not only Hurin is the pawn of Morgoth <Galadriel1a> [11/30 @ 6:53] (0/0)
I find this so sad. <Kimi> [11/30 @ 3:24] (0/0)
Hurin & Morwen <Penthe> [11/29 @ 18:56] (1/3)

the truly noble thing? <N.E. Brigand> [12/1 @ 15:06] (1/2)

Hurin's idyll <Penthe> [12/2 @ 17:08] (1/1)

late comment; Odysseus did a little farming <Galadriel1a> [12/5 @ 15:27] (0/0)

More questions: What does Morwen die of? <Beren IV> [11/29 @ 16:37] (2/3)

Morwen <Galadriel1a> [11/30 @ 11:15] (0/0)
Morwen's beauty <Lúthien_Rising> [11/29 @ 16:58] (1/1)

Alternate scales of beauty <Beren IV> [11/29 @ 18:02] (0/0)

Hurin, Morwen, and the plans of Morgoth and Eru <drogo_drogo> [11/29 @ 14:10] (0/0)

Of the Ruin of Doriath: Intro <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/29 @ 1:22] (6/6)

*gets out papier mache and pipe cleaners* <Penthe> [11/29 @ 18:39] (0/0)
gosh, and I liked it so much better <an seileachan> [11/29 @ 8:58] (0/0)
Very much looking forward to this week <Lúthien_Rising> [11/29 @ 8:34] (0/0)
Very interesting <squire > [11/29 @ 7:45] (0/0)
Should be interesting <drogo_drogo> [11/29 @ 6:47] (0/0)
Looking forward to it! <Beren IV> [11/29 @ 2:32] (0/0)

best symbol of ME's age & sorrow? <bigidiot> [11/27 @ 19:40] (15/39)

Lothlorien...later <lumpkin> [12/3 @ 12:36] (0/0)
It all comes down to what had the greater impact on you <Valandur> [12/2 @ 10:11] (0/0)
The Argonath. Only the symbolism and none of the power is left. <Advising Elf> [12/1 @ 21:40] (0/0)
The Barrow Downs? <nerdanel_50> [11/29 @ 12:14] (1/1)

and Minas Morgul? <mawguy> [11/29 @ 12:48] (0/0)

The Old Forest <Bythedar> [11/29 @ 9:22] (0/0)
Hollin <Altaira> [11/28 @ 22:44] (2/2)

Yeah, I think I agree with this. (No Text) <Arod the Swift> [12/3 @ 9:43] (0/0)
Yes, I would agree with Hollin (No Text) <Entmaiden> [11/28 @ 23:51] (0/0)

What about the Dead Marshes? <Finding Frodo> [11/28 @ 22:01] (1/1)

That's it for me too (No Text) <LostHamster> [12/1 @ 5:30] (0/0)

Another candidate -- Khazad-dum <drogo_drogo> [11/28 @ 18:11] (2/5)

Almost as good an example as mine. ;o) <Advising Elf> [12/1 @ 21:46] (0/0)
Yes, another good one <Altaira> [11/28 @ 22:48] (1/3)

Quite so. And the dwarves <Atlas> [11/29 @ 1:27] (1/2)

But Gimli says <Silent _ Watcher> [11/29 @ 8:39] (1/1)

Dwarves are that way <drogo_drogo> [11/29 @ 9:11] (0/0)

Weathertop for me as well. <NZ Strider> [11/28 @ 13:23] (1/1)

yes. The watch tower of Amon Sul <eowyn_rohan> [11/29 @ 4:22] (0/0)

The Palantir-towers, taken as a whole. <Pukel-man> [11/28 @ 11:17] (1/1)

yeah <bigidiot> [11/28 @ 11:43] (0/0)

Dol Amroth <an seileachan> [11/28 @ 11:14] (1/1)

the swan knights <bigidiot> [11/28 @ 11:23] (0/0)

Moria <Chip of Dale> [11/28 @ 11:05] (2/3)

Oops <drogo_drogo> [11/28 @ 20:13] (1/1)

Ah, but you used the Dwarven name <Chip of Dale> [11/29 @ 5:24] (0/0)

yeah <bigidiot> [11/28 @ 11:18] (0/0)

Good choice! I'll go with Fangorn Forest. <Curious> [11/28 @ 10:45] (2/2)

I agree that! <Douglas> [11/29 @ 7:07] (0/0)
yeah <bigidiot> [11/28 @ 11:12] (0/0)

What of the Argonath? <linkinparkelf> [11/27 @ 23:27] (2/2)

GMTA. (No Text) <Advising Elf> [12/1 @ 21:42] (0/0)
Lothlorien for me too. <Penthe> [11/28 @ 5:23] (0/0)

The Grey Havens for me. <PhantomS> [11/27 @ 20:46] (5/5)

Without a doubt. <irpacynot> [11/30 @ 22:09] (0/0)
I agree as well, <Beren IV> [11/29 @ 2:24] (0/0)
Agreement <djdeathskiss> [11/28 @ 13:32] (0/0)
I would have to agree <Lúthien_Rising> [11/28 @ 11:34] (0/0)
ill take both your sentiments <silneldor> [11/27 @ 22:21] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 5, post 4 <Tharangil> [11/26 @ 18:26] (1/1)

Undoubtedly <drogo_drogo> [11/28 @ 17:56] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 5, post 3 <Tharangil> [11/26 @ 18:23] (2/3)

I don't remember how the section started (No Text) <Lady Scaper> [11/29 @ 10:37] (0/0)
The talking sword <drogo_drogo> [11/28 @ 18:02] (1/1)

Weapons were belived to have a <Galadriel1a> [11/29 @ 4:13] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 5, post 2 <Tharangil> [11/26 @ 18:19] (1/3)

upon losing Niniel, he thinks of Finduilas <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/28 @ 20:45] (1/2)

Tolien had plans to aler the story and <Galadriel1a> [11/29 @ 3:56] (1/1)

hmmmm <Lady Scaper> [11/29 @ 9:58] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 5, post 1 <Tharangil> [11/26 @ 18:14] (1/3)

Well... <Finding Frodo> [11/27 @ 23:30] (2/2)

I think <Lady Scaper> [11/29 @ 8:09] (0/0)
I don't recall <Lúthien_Rising> [11/28 @ 16:51] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 4, post 4 <Tharangil> [11/25 @ 19:13] (2/4)

yikes! I hadn't thought of that <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/27 @ 3:10] (1/1)

I hadn't either, but <Lúthien_Rising> [11/27 @ 14:04] (0/0)

You have character problems again <Beren IV> [11/26 @ 1:20] (1/1)

Wow <Lady Scaper> [11/29 @ 7:35] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 4, post 3 <Tharangil> [11/25 @ 19:11] (1/2)

Using Gurthang to cut up the turk-er-dragon <Beren IV> [11/26 @ 1:16] (1/1)

Yes, <Tharangil> [11/26 @ 18:45] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 4, post 2 <Tharangil> [11/25 @ 19:07] (1/1)

Mountaineering on the Turkeybar weekend <Beren IV> [11/26 @ 1:13] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 4, post 1 <Tharangil> [11/25 @ 19:04] (2/6)

Niniel <Elen> [11/26 @ 9:02] (0/0)
I don't understand this section. <Beren IV> [11/26 @ 1:11] (1/4)

Dorla talk big but as we will see <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 5:54] (1/3)

I was waiting <dna> [11/26 @ 6:11] (1/2)

If you are going to read it <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 8:23] (1/1)

thanks <dna> [11/26 @ 14:13] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 3, post 4 <Tharangil> [11/24 @ 22:11] (2/2)

For Turin, it'sall about him, and winning, <Entmaiden> [11/25 @ 21:00] (0/0)
If I remember rightly it was a forboding <Galadriel1a> [11/25 @ 15:45] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 3, post 3 <Tharangil> [11/24 @ 22:07] (2/2)

A deer in the woods and an old-fashioned Tolkien <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:39] (0/0)
I never understood why <Galadriel1a> [11/25 @ 15:35] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 3, post 2 <Tharangil> [11/24 @ 22:04] (3/4)

well, I'm sure *Curious* would say <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 15:46] (1/1)

Morgoth can send ill winds. <Curious> [11/26 @ 16:33] (0/0)

Glaurung is still plenty strong <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:36] (0/0)
No coincidence, Glaurungs orcs <Galadriel1a> [11/25 @ 15:20] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 3, post 1 <Tharangil> [11/24 @ 22:00] (2/3)

As a man? <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:34] (1/1)

well, <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 15:43] (0/0)

Since it was partly out of concern for Nienors safety <Galadriel1a> [11/25 @ 15:07] (0/0)

Galadriel's mirror <CaptainoftheDunadain> [11/24 @ 20:28] (3/3)

You can say a lot of things <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:31] (0/0)
Nenya <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/25 @ 0:35] (0/0)
I'm no expert on this... <Lady Izara> [11/24 @ 21:04] (0/0)

Is anyone really tempted by the Ring? <Curious> [11/24 @ 12:10] (13/123)

Evil, what is it? <linkinparkelf> [11/30 @ 2:14] (1/9)

OK. <Curious> [11/30 @ 6:29] (1/8)

Sam felt the effects of the Ring <an seileachan> [11/30 @ 7:11] (2/7)

Evil and free will <linkinparkelf> [12/1 @ 2:29] (1/5)

No, I don't think it's necessary <Chip of Dale> [12/2 @ 12:24] (2/4)

Not surprise, but maybe satisfaction and joy <linkinparkelf> [12/2 @ 18:07] (1/2)

I'm not sure <Curious> [12/3 @ 10:53] (1/1)

Doesn't stop us fron trying! <linkinparkelf> [12/3 @ 14:59] (0/0)

Not quite. <Curious> [12/2 @ 13:13] (0/0)

Right. <Curious> [11/30 @ 7:56] (0/0)

Thanks everyone! <Curious> [11/29 @ 7:44] (3/7)

Thanks for the thoughts. As you say . . . <Pukel-man> [11/29 @ 10:21] (1/1)

Tolkien doesn't make it easy <Curious> [11/29 @ 11:17] (0/0)

thank *you* for raising the question (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [11/29 @ 8:40] (0/0)
A very interesting discussion <squire > [11/29 @ 7:49] (2/3)

I don't agree either :-) <Penthe> [11/29 @ 17:42] (1/1)

It's hard to argue <Curious> [11/30 @ 6:31] (0/0)

I would be delighted <Curious> [11/29 @ 8:04] (0/0)

Addendum inspired by Pukel-man and <Curious> [11/26 @ 16:21] (8/66)

Supernatural or natural causes of the temptation of the Ring <Stanislaus Bocian> [12/2 @ 14:37] (0/0)
I think the Ring <Entmaiden> [11/27 @ 22:15] (2/5)

Here's why I respectfully disagree. <Curious> [11/28 @ 7:43] (1/3)

I disagree about the stones. <Pukel-man> [11/28 @ 16:11] (1/2)

On further reflection, <Curious> [11/28 @ 18:00] (1/1)

you know what they say about curiosity... <an seileachan> [11/28 @ 19:28] (0/0)

Great analyses, but any thoughts on Frodo? (No Text) <linkinparkelf> [11/27 @ 22:59] (0/0)

Agency & action (long, too long) <Penthe> [11/26 @ 23:43] (1/4)

The Ring can do many things. <Curious> [11/27 @ 12:50] (1/3)

I don't have my Annotated Hobbit with me <Entmaiden> [11/27 @ 21:01] (1/2)

I think you're right. <Kimi> [11/28 @ 4:08] (1/1)

But in both <Curious> [11/28 @ 7:01] (0/0)

what bugs me the most <bigidiot> [11/26 @ 20:54] (5/13)

Ever hear of "Beer Muscles"? <Farawyn> [11/27 @ 14:05] (0/0)
The Ring gives power according to stature. <Curious> [11/27 @ 12:24] (1/1)

Excellent points. Thanks. (No Text) <Farawyn> [11/27 @ 14:08] (0/0)

Here's my take on the Ring's power... <Gerontius> [11/27 @ 8:32] (3/4)

I dislike this intensely <squire > [11/27 @ 23:28] (1/1)

But you can take from it what you want <Gerontius> [11/28 @ 7:16] (0/0)

Extremely fascinating but <linkinparkelf> [11/27 @ 22:37] (0/0)
whoah <bigidiot> [11/27 @ 18:02] (0/0)

It is in the text, but only stated indirectly <squire > [11/27 @ 0:49] (1/3)

The Ring rules other Rings, not everyone <an seileachan> [11/27 @ 10:48] (1/2)

Wasn't Barad-dur made by the Ring? <Pukel-man> [11/27 @ 11:15] (1/1)

Foundations <PhantomS> [11/27 @ 20:54] (0/0)

As I understand it... <Finding Frodo> [11/27 @ 0:31] (0/0)

I can't possibly agree with that... <Gerontius> [11/26 @ 18:55] (1/13)

Sam was not tempted by the Ring until he <Farawyn> [11/26 @ 19:15] (2/12)

Right, and Sam shrugs it off <Curious> [11/27 @ 11:24] (0/0)
Note, though, that . . . <Pukel-man> [11/27 @ 10:58] (3/10)

Yes, even with those who bear it <Curious> [11/27 @ 11:28] (2/3)

Interesting, but open to different interpretations <Penthe> [11/28 @ 5:15] (0/0)
Some are born villains, some achieve villainhood . . . <Pukel-man> [11/27 @ 11:34] (1/1)

No. <Curious> [11/27 @ 12:27] (0/0)

Clarifying re Gandalf . . . <Pukel-man> [11/27 @ 11:06] (1/4)

Then why not Sam? <RurouniKJS> [11/27 @ 15:38] (2/3)

I think Sam answers this himself <FarFromHome> [11/28 @ 9:23] (0/0)
because it was Frodo's choice <an seileachan> [11/27 @ 15:55] (1/1)

well put, a.s. (No Text) <linkinparkelf> [11/27 @ 22:41] (0/0)

Gandalf desires a great deal, but <an seileachan> [11/27 @ 11:06] (0/0)

further question(s), then <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 16:44] (2/10)

not an answer, just interesting <an seileachan> [11/26 @ 17:58] (1/1)

very interesting <bigidiot> [11/26 @ 20:44] (0/0)

Boethian, certainly. <Curious> [11/26 @ 17:28] (1/7)

no <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 18:27] (1/6)

Although I have not read <Curious> [11/26 @ 18:53] (1/5)

best of both worlds? <an seileachan> [11/26 @ 19:22] (2/4)

Interesting <Penthe> [11/28 @ 5:10] (1/2)

we are entirely free to deny the will of God <an seileachan> [11/28 @ 10:18] (1/1)

thanks a.s. <Penthe> [11/28 @ 22:07] (0/0)

Wonderful! <Curious> [11/27 @ 11:19] (0/0)

So, could any... <N.E. Brigand> [11/26 @ 16:41] (3/3)

yes, if they were meant to <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/27 @ 2:51] (0/0)
Sam and Merry, perhaps. <Curious> [11/26 @ 17:16] (0/0)
not in my opinion <an seileachan> [11/26 @ 17:10] (0/0)

Please correct me if I´m wrong <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 16:40] (4/10)

No, but <Farawyn> [11/26 @ 19:17] (0/0)
Heroin is a billion-dollar business. <Curious> [11/26 @ 17:03] (1/4)

Ok, so if I say that Boromir would <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 17:19] (1/3)

Maybe <Curious> [11/26 @ 17:28] (2/2)

I think of it like a crowbar <bigidiot> [11/26 @ 20:48] (0/0)
Who is confused?:-) :-) (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 18:10] (0/0)

No personal experience here, but... <N.E. Brigand> [11/26 @ 16:48] (0/0)
heroin <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 16:44] (1/2)

But feeling power is not the same as having powerI <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 16:57] (1/1)

no, it's not the same thing <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 18:30] (0/0)

late response <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 11:14] (2/2)

Not so late anymore! <Curious> [11/29 @ 17:29] (0/0)
That's hard to say. <Curious> [11/26 @ 12:14] (0/0)

My take on this <Bythedar> [11/25 @ 9:32] (1/3)

If the Ring <Curious> [11/26 @ 15:28] (1/2)

But Boromir has seen it <Bythedar> [11/26 @ 17:15] (1/1)

So does the rest of the Fellowship. <Curious> [11/26 @ 17:39] (0/0)

The movies emphasised the Ring's 'addictive' qualities. <Pukel-man> [11/25 @ 8:20] (0/0)
Pippin and the Palatir -- a tempting study <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/24 @ 20:17] (2/4)

Pippin handled the palantir. <Curious> [11/25 @ 11:50] (0/0)
Great analysis! But are they equivalent? <Finding Frodo> [11/24 @ 22:34] (1/2)

I think they are simliar but... <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/24 @ 23:52] (1/1)

Great analysis! A comment about burned hands... <RurouniKJS> [11/27 @ 15:19] (0/0)

The Ring is Sauron <an seileachan> [11/24 @ 19:44] (0/0)
Shouldn't Saruman be on the list of those who are tempted? (No Text) <Cressida> [11/24 @ 14:57] (1/10)

Sort of. <Curious> [11/24 @ 15:52] (3/9)

If Denethor counts as "tempted" then I think Saruman does. <Cressida> [11/29 @ 15:13] (0/0)
"For I am <Silent _ Watcher> [11/26 @ 4:34] (1/1)

See my answer to Galadriel1a . (No Text) <Curious> [11/26 @ 15:22] (0/0)

Saruman had been looking for the Ring <Galadriel1a> [11/25 @ 16:30] (1/5)

I know. And <Curious> [11/26 @ 15:21] (1/4)

But the palanthiri are made for a good <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 16:47] (1/3)

Sauron corrupted the palantiri. <Curious> [11/26 @ 17:42] (2/2)

So the Ring's temptation <Silent _ Watcher> [11/27 @ 5:47] (0/0)
I mean that he sees the ring as a <Galadriel1a> [11/26 @ 17:54] (0/0)

Everyone who comes near it or knows of it <squire > [11/24 @ 14:42] (1/3)

So Aragorn had the sweats in secret? <Curious> [11/24 @ 15:48] (1/2)

Ah, seriously tempted, now. <squire > [11/24 @ 16:31] (1/1)

I love those interpretations, but <Curious> [11/24 @ 17:39] (0/0)

You're more-or-less correct <Beren IV> [11/24 @ 13:59] (2/2)

It seems to me <Maedhros' third cousin twice removed> [11/25 @ 3:41] (0/0)
Yes, there is Isildur. <Curious> [11/24 @ 15:57] (0/0)

so knowledge of Evil is a good thing <linkinparkelf> [11/24 @ 13:53] (3/4)

Of Tolkien's wrestling with concept of Evil <eowyn_rohan> [11/26 @ 0:04] (0/0)
Frodo has lost the belief in saving anything <Penthe> [11/25 @ 18:46] (0/0)
Mythical Characters <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/24 @ 14:51] (1/1)

The reason <Silent _ Watcher> [11/25 @ 6:25] (0/0)

Nicely articulated. <notlost> [11/24 @ 13:52] (0/0)

Questions on bodies vs. souls <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 23:51] (8/10)

Dwarves and animals <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:49] (1/1)

Dwarves and death <PhantomS> [11/26 @ 7:33] (0/0)

*cracks knuckles, takes a shot* <linkinparkelf> [11/25 @ 2:26] (0/0)
speculation <wolfranger> [11/24 @ 21:13] (0/0)
souls <an seileachan> [11/24 @ 20:11] (0/0)
Interesting comments. Keep 'em coming! :) <Beren IV> [11/24 @ 13:49] (1/1)

The Ghost of Saruman <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/24 @ 15:07] (0/0)

Old Man Gandalf <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/24 @ 12:04] (0/0)
What about dreams? <Curious> [11/24 @ 5:15] (0/0)
Perhaps a misunderstanding. <Atlas> [11/24 @ 3:06] (0/0)

Finally! Release of this new Tolkien-related book! <Elf_Maven> [11/23 @ 22:48] (5/16)

Thanks for the summary <drogo_drogo> [11/24 @ 9:05] (0/0)
Thank you Elf Maven <Sam 15th> [11/24 @ 8:56] (0/0)
So does she mention the weather? <Curious> [11/24 @ 5:03] (1/8)

The weather doesn't really become <Elf_Maven> [11/24 @ 9:36] (1/7)

Ah, I can still write my book! <Curious> [11/24 @ 10:01] (2/6)

marketing plan <Penthe> [11/25 @ 20:38] (0/0)
I'll read it if you'll write it! In fact, <Elf_Maven> [11/24 @ 14:12] (1/4)

Arm-wrestle you for it ;-) (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 11:11] (1/3)

*gasp* But, that would mean . . . <Elf_Maven> [11/26 @ 11:33] (1/2)

but aren't we supposed to <Lúthien_Rising> [11/26 @ 15:04] (1/1)

Is there an argument? I thought <Elf_Maven> [11/27 @ 1:49] (0/0)

Thanks, EM.... <notlost> [11/23 @ 23:26] (1/3)

link is broken *pouts* <Penthe> [11/24 @ 0:01] (1/2)

perhaps this (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/24 @ 0:41] (1/1)

Thanks, EW. (No Text) <notlost> [11/24 @ 0:56] (0/0)

Gee. <squire > [11/23 @ 23:08] (0/0)

Of Melkor and the Valar <wolfranger> [11/23 @ 21:14] (6/17)

Thanks so much! <wolfranger> [11/24 @ 21:04] (1/1)

Everything becomes clearer too after the 3rd & 4th reading <G>. (No Text) <irpacynot> [11/30 @ 22:18] (0/0)

a few answers (Story Spoiler - Silmarillion) <PhantomS> [11/24 @ 10:54] (1/5)

That's not totally true, is it? <Beren IV> [11/24 @ 13:33] (1/4)

hmm. <PhantomS> [11/25 @ 9:04] (1/3)

I had thought <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:23] (2/2)

not the same <PhantomS> [11/26 @ 7:40] (0/0)
Utumno <Kimi> [11/25 @ 19:35] (0/0)

Utumno <Ceorl> [11/24 @ 4:22] (0/0)
Of Sauron <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/23 @ 23:34] (2/3)

Sauron the craftsman <Chip of Dale> [11/24 @ 13:05] (0/0)
Maiar <Ceorl> [11/24 @ 4:29] (1/1)

Yeah, I caught that <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/24 @ 11:57] (0/0)

I can help, a little. <squire > [11/23 @ 22:57] (0/0)
A lot of this is clearer in BoLT <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 22:34] (1/2)

really dumb question <wolfranger> [11/24 @ 21:05] (1/1)

BoLT = The Book of Lost Tales <Beren IV> [11/25 @ 17:21] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 2, post 4 <Tharangil> [11/23 @ 18:06] (2/2)

I like Kimi's posts, but... <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 22:26] (0/0)
A fate worse than death <Kimi> [11/23 @ 19:35] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 2, post 3 <Tharangil> [11/23 @ 18:00] (3/4)

120 miles. <N.E. Brigand> [11/24 @ 15:53] (0/0)
People are animals <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 22:22] (0/0)
"If only" <Kimi> [11/23 @ 19:28] (1/1)

As Gandalf learns some years later <Penthe> [11/23 @ 21:30] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 2, post 2 <Tharangil> [11/23 @ 17:54] (2/2)

pride can build a bridge... <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/23 @ 23:30] (0/0)
Glaurung using honor as a ruse <drogo_drogo> [11/23 @ 19:10] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 2, post 1 <Tharangil> [11/23 @ 17:48] (4/9)

Dragons, werewolves, spiders <N.E. Brigand> [11/24 @ 15:32] (1/1)

Ungoliant, Dragons, and spirits (oh my) <Penthe> [11/25 @ 22:43] (0/0)

Dragons are not just Morgoth's spirits <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 22:15] (0/0)
the slanderer and accuser <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/23 @ 21:27] (1/1)

That´s a very good paralell <Galadriel1a> [11/25 @ 16:45] (0/0)

Heroes and dragons and other sundry topics <drogo_drogo> [11/23 @ 18:46] (1/3)

that makes sense but... <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/23 @ 22:45] (2/2)

Taint and Dragons <Mapalon> [11/28 @ 21:47] (0/0)
No, Morgoth does not essentially die <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 23:56] (0/0)

Leftover B&L questions <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 20:26] (1/3)

Probably <PhantomS> [11/23 @ 2:48] (1/2)

He had Ents to help him against the dwarves <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 9:23] (1/1)

Quite true, <PhantomS> [11/24 @ 4:04] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 1, post 4 <Tharangil> [11/22 @ 17:32] (2/9)

I think it was very stupid of Turin <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 13:52] (1/1)

Dragon powers <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 15:15] (0/0)

Dragons are powerful, and this is Glaurung! <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 20:24] (1/6)

fate of turin <mischievious_dwarf> [11/22 @ 22:37] (2/5)

But he doesn't love Finduilas. <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:42] (0/0)
Yes, but how would Gwindor know that? (No Text) <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 22:45] (1/3)

Gwindor <mischievious_dwarf> [11/22 @ 22:59] (1/2)

"...war of fate against free will..." <Finding Frodo> [11/22 @ 23:38] (1/1)

fate vs free will <mischievious_dwarf> [11/23 @ 7:47] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: Part 1 Summary <Menelwyn> [11/22 @ 17:25] (10/12)

Great discussion. Thanks. Good summary, too. (No Text) <Arquen> [11/24 @ 15:39] (0/0)
Thank you (from a lurker)! (No Text) <eowyn_rohan> [11/23 @ 11:22] (1/1)

and from another (No Text) <Modtheow> [11/23 @ 23:18] (0/0)

Thank you, and also to <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 5:59] (0/0)
Great work, Menelwyn! <nerdanel_50> [11/22 @ 23:59] (0/0)
Thanks, Menelwyn and all contributors. <Kimi> [11/22 @ 22:46] (0/0)
Thanks for a great discussion! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 19:48] (0/0)
Thanks Menelwyn, & everyone <Penthe> [11/22 @ 18:31] (0/0)
Um, Tùrin isn't Human <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 17:52] (1/1)

Thanks for your work, Menelwyn! (No Text) <Finding Frodo> [11/22 @ 23:30] (0/0)

Thanks, Menelwyn! <Lúthien_Rising> [11/22 @ 17:39] (0/0)
Thank you! <N.E. Brigand> [11/22 @ 17:36] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 1, post 3 <Tharangil> [11/22 @ 17:25] (4/6)

Turin is quite young and emotionally instable <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 13:06] (1/2)

Orodreth out of his mind? <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 16:28] (1/1)

Yes, that is right but if Orodreth had biven Turin a minor <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 18:49] (0/0)

This was right about where... <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:40] (0/0)
Some thoughts <Kimi> [11/22 @ 23:04] (0/0)
He's still cursed... <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 20:12] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 1, post 2 <Tharangil> [11/22 @ 17:20] (3/10)

I really want to smack Finduilas. <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:35] (2/3)

Túrin is more than hansome <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 15:21] (1/1)

Still strikes me as shallow. <Cressida> [11/23 @ 15:53] (0/0)

Oh, and about Gwindor's revelation... <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:51] (0/0)

Gwindor is still hot-headed <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 20:02] (0/0)
The 3rd Elf/Man Bloodline <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/22 @ 19:00] (1/4)

I don't think it would have worked <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:28] (1/3)

Well, she and Gwindor was not married <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 13:32] (1/2)

No, but... <Cressida> [11/23 @ 14:07] (1/1)

As Findulias says in UT; <Galadriel1a> [11/23 @ 18:28] (0/0)

Of Turin Turambar - Part II, day 1, post 1 <Tharangil> [11/22 @ 17:17] (4/5)

Secrecy is shameful? <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 19:52] (0/0)
Turin, fate, and the Masked Warrior <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 19:46] (0/0)
Bard <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/22 @ 18:57] (0/0)
You have font problems <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 17:58] (1/1)

Ok, thanks for telling me <Tharangil> [11/22 @ 21:35] (0/0)

Chapter-by-chapter Analysis <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/22 @ 15:06] (1/3)

We will vote on the next book <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 15:18] (1/2)

Ok, just wondering how it worked <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/22 @ 15:59] (1/1)

I forgot to list UT too... <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 16:08] (0/0)

RR Recollects <CelebornsMirror> [11/22 @ 10:39] (7/37)

Takeo's post that ended with: <hatster> [11/25 @ 7:39] (0/0)
Classic summary of Tolkien eschatology <erather> [11/23 @ 19:47] (1/6)

NZ Strider loved hard data. <Curious> [11/24 @ 9:36] (1/5)

Um, Curious... <notlost> [11/24 @ 10:57] (1/4)

Yes, I noticed that after I posted. <Curious> [11/24 @ 11:02] (1/3)

So would you say.... <notlost> [11/24 @ 13:47] (1/2)

I'm sure NZS will be preparing long, thoughtful, footnoted <Entmaiden> [11/24 @ 22:57] (1/1)

I thought you were going to say <Lúthien_Rising> [11/27 @ 9:36] (0/0)

long and sappy <notlost> [11/23 @ 15:22] (4/4)

Don't worry <drogo_drogo> [11/23 @ 19:04] (0/0)
I want to second... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [11/23 @ 18:35] (0/0)
Short and sappy <Kimi> [11/23 @ 17:46] (0/0)
Notlost, I am confident that <Curious> [11/23 @ 16:42] (0/0)

Reverend on Morgoth's taint <erather> [11/22 @ 23:17] (2/6)

"Immoderate heat" <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 16:34] (2/4)

"nothing is evil in the beginning..." <an seileachan> [11/25 @ 9:04] (0/0)
But not against Eru. <Curious> [11/23 @ 16:44] (1/2)

Well, yes, Eru <Beren IV> [11/23 @ 22:09] (1/1)

You must understand <Curious> [11/24 @ 4:34] (0/0)

I love that reading of Mount Doom <drogo_drogo> [11/23 @ 6:46] (0/0)

Here's a NZ Strider classic from the 2nd Age <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 20:29] (1/1)

As good an argument as any I know <squire > [11/22 @ 23:23] (0/0)

*blushes * "it is good that there should be a lot of things unexplained" <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/22 @ 14:30] (2/2)

Why do you always write the best things?! <CelebornsMirror> [11/23 @ 10:32] (0/0)
Your last line reminds me of <Curious> [11/22 @ 16:42] (0/0)

Probably my favorite <Curious> [11/22 @ 12:14] (4/11)

"Fais ce que dois <Silent _ Watcher> [11/23 @ 10:54] (0/0)
I, too, have gone back to those words of his many times. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [11/22 @ 14:49] (0/0)
I remember that post well <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 14:23] (1/4)

Wish I had been there: hope vs. hope <Elf_Maven> [11/23 @ 11:46] (1/3)

From an early draft of "Many Partings": <Curious> [11/23 @ 12:26] (2/2)

You know... <notlost> [11/23 @ 23:16] (0/0)
Perfect. Thank you! (No Text) <Elf_Maven> [11/23 @ 21:31] (0/0)

Here it is <Lúthien_Rising> [11/22 @ 12:30] (1/3)

Thanks! I wonder why <Curious> [11/22 @ 12:35] (1/2)

here's the link (I liked it too) (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/22 @ 13:47] (1/1)

It doesn't work for me. <Curious> [11/22 @ 13:58] (0/0)

Did Boromir have to die? <CelebornsMirror> [11/22 @ 10:31] (4/9)

I loved everyone's answers! <CelebornsMirror> [11/23 @ 10:29] (0/0)
true victory <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/22 @ 13:10] (2/2)

" the true measure of victory is not in our deeds but a repentant heart. " WOW. <RurouniKJS> [11/27 @ 15:29] (0/0)
BEAUTIFULLY PUT! <fbaggins922> [11/22 @ 16:30] (0/0)

Not punishment but penance. <Curious> [11/22 @ 10:51] (1/1)

I've wondered often... <wolfranger> [11/22 @ 21:50] (0/0)

Boromir is a tragic story within LOTR <drogo_drogo> [11/22 @ 10:45] (1/2)

Not arrogant <kodax> [11/23 @ 11:39] (1/1)

He can be arrogant sometimes. <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:20] (0/0)

Gollum in lorien <CaptainoftheDunadain> [11/21 @ 21:26] (2/2)

Could be, but Gollum did not <Curious> [11/22 @ 11:07] (0/0)
Gollum is a tricky bastard <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 1:44] (0/0)

Well, I guess it's my turn now, eh? - Of Turin Turambar, part II <Tharangil> [11/21 @ 16:09] (3/8)

*passes the baton* Good luck! <Menelwyn> [11/21 @ 19:06] (1/1)

That's quite alright <Tharangil> [11/21 @ 22:56] (0/0)

Looking forward to a Turin Turkeybar week <drogo_drogo> [11/21 @ 16:48] (1/4)

priorities, drogo! <Lúthien_Rising> [11/21 @ 16:50] (1/3)

Let's see, Thanksgiving at the Hurin Household <drogo_drogo> [11/21 @ 17:10] (1/2)

*Picks his teeth with Angrist* <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 1:35] (1/1)

Angrist shards <Penthe> [11/22 @ 23:09] (0/0)

Looking forward to it! (No Text) <Kimi> [11/21 @ 16:29] (0/0)

ages of Fellowship when first formed... <mawguy> [11/21 @ 15:27] (3/3)

Samwise and Meriadoc <Spoons Fiddlesticks> [11/22 @ 10:28] (0/0)
A few numbers <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 1:27] (0/0)
I didn't know..... <dragon77> [11/21 @ 22:02] (0/0)

The Childhood of Elrond and Elros <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/21 @ 15:15] (2/3)

You can deduce it <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 1:23] (1/1)

Halfelven Escape <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/22 @ 10:18] (0/0)

not much help... <mawguy> [11/21 @ 21:30] (0/0)

Slightly OT: Article from New Yorker on Plagiarism <notlost> [11/20 @ 22:49] (3/6)

Such an odd mixture <nerdanel_50> [11/23 @ 13:54] (1/1)

nicely stated <Lúthien_Rising> [11/23 @ 17:27] (0/0)

nice timing! <Lúthien_Rising> [11/21 @ 9:54] (1/2)

Probably the most troubling thing for me.... <notlost> [11/21 @ 23:54] (1/1)

in US and Canadian copyright law <Lúthien_Rising> [11/22 @ 8:22] (0/0)

The writer seemed to be flattered <squire > [11/21 @ 0:45] (0/0)

Noldorin sex ratio <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 21:15] (3/4)

much fuller family trees <dna> [11/21 @ 7:59] (0/0)
strictly in-book.... <PhantomS> [11/21 @ 4:59] (0/0)
Strait from Myth <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 21:22] (1/1)

Yes, but <Beren IV> [11/21 @ 2:13] (0/0)

Tolkien's inspiration??? <Famkelorien> [11/20 @ 19:39] (4/6)

Of grading tests and a girl dancing <Chip of Dale> [11/21 @ 10:48] (0/0)
Norse myth meets Catholic theology <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 20:57] (0/0)
Applicability <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 20:48] (0/0)
Well...I wouldn't go so far as to say <ArwëonWhoOnceWas > [11/20 @ 20:01] (1/2)

Much help <Famkelorien> [11/20 @ 22:00] (1/1)

Well, we're not scholars, but we try! :-) <ArwëonWhoOnceWas > [11/21 @ 14:23] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar Part 1: Open Discussion <Menelwyn> [11/20 @ 16:07] (3/26)

Turin vs. Beren and Luthien <drogo_drogo> [11/20 @ 19:42] (11/17)

It must be love, love, love <Penthe> [11/22 @ 18:23] (0/0)
*votes for Turin & ties it up 6-6* (No Text) <dna> [11/22 @ 13:54] (0/0)
Beren and Luthien <Menelwyn> [11/21 @ 15:43] (0/0)
Turin's the best part so far <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/21 @ 13:04] (0/0)
In the Sil, it's pretty much a tie <Lúthien_Rising> [11/21 @ 10:09] (0/0)
Turin, because he can kick Beren's <Curious> [11/20 @ 22:37] (2/6)

There are few characters in Tolkiens <Galadriel1a> [11/22 @ 17:55] (0/0)
I disagree that <Beren IV> [11/21 @ 2:05] (1/4)

Turin =warrior, Beren= hero <PhantomS> [11/21 @ 9:34] (2/3)

I think Beren is more like Odysseus. <Curious> [11/22 @ 10:28] (1/1)

Interesting point! (No Text) <Beren IV> [11/24 @ 14:02] (0/0)

Point taken (No Text) <Beren IV> [11/22 @ 1:55] (0/0)

Beren and Luthien <Finding Frodo> [11/20 @ 22:18] (0/0)
I'll take Turin <Arquen> [11/20 @ 22:13] (0/0)
I think you already know my favorite <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 20:48] (0/0)
Turambar <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 20:39] (0/0)
Beren and Luthien <Kimi> [11/20 @ 20:02] (0/0)

What do the Orcs know about the Valar? <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 17:01] (1/1)

Enough to know of their power <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 17:20] (0/0)

Ideas on enslaving Elves <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 16:44] (4/5)

Spell of Bottomless Dread <dna> [11/20 @ 19:02] (1/1)

I didn't remember that... <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 19:06] (0/0)

Sauron is more of a deceiver <drogo_drogo> [11/20 @ 17:29] (0/0)
Answering two questions? <Penthe> [11/20 @ 17:24] (0/0)
Powerhouse <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 16:59] (0/0)

Anguirel <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 13:42] (2/4)

a little far-fetched there.. <PhantomS> [11/21 @ 5:10] (0/0)
There's a problem with that: <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 16:52] (1/2)

Scrap <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 17:10] (1/1)

Well, sort of <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 19:03] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: Gwindor <Menelwyn> [11/19 @ 17:21] (3/4)

Some thoughts <Kimi> [11/20 @ 21:20] (0/0)
Gwindor is also cursed <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 16:42] (1/1)

Ooh, I like that idea... <Cressida> [11/23 @ 12:26] (0/0)

Ulmo the Puppetmaster <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/20 @ 14:01] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: Beleg's Fate <Menelwyn> [11/19 @ 17:20] (5/7)

Some thoughts <Kimi> [11/20 @ 21:03] (1/2)

I love your footer! <Finding Frodo> [11/20 @ 22:14] (1/1)

Thank you :-) (No Text) <Kimi> [11/20 @ 22:19] (0/0)

Natural or supernatural? <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 17:00] (0/0)
It was a dark and stormy night... <drogo_drogo> [11/20 @ 13:25] (0/0)
*dons magnifying glasses, splits hairs* <Arquen> [11/20 @ 12:47] (0/0)
Whose fate is it? <Finding Frodo> [11/20 @ 12:27] (0/0)

Crime and Punishment, Elven style <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 20:48] (2/5)

The Elven-king of Mirkwood had <Curious> [11/24 @ 4:55] (0/0)
See the King <PhantomS> [11/19 @ 11:16] (1/3)

What about when societies get too big? <Beren IV> [11/19 @ 14:14] (1/2)

There was delegation in 6-11th C England. <erather> [11/19 @ 15:34] (1/1)

Thanks for your ideas :) (No Text) <Beren IV> [11/19 @ 16:23] (0/0)

A link from my archive. <Curious> [11/18 @ 17:30] (1/1)

The other startling <Merryk> [11/19 @ 0:40] (0/0)

Habits of Hobbits <well he's back> [11/18 @ 17:07] (1/11)

The Christian influence is there, but <Curious> [11/18 @ 17:53] (1/10)

Well... <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 18:21] (1/9)

Death as a gift is decidedly un-Christian. <Curious> [11/18 @ 18:55] (3/8)

Not sure it's true <Ransom> [11/19 @ 11:49] (1/1)

Yes, in that sense <Curious> [11/19 @ 12:02] (0/0)

I was raised to believe <Entmaiden> [11/19 @ 11:34] (3/4)

No one has actually defined why death could be a gift? <Elf_Maven> [11/20 @ 20:10] (0/0)
death...and Death <an seileachan> [11/20 @ 13:29] (1/1)

Well-put, an seileachan! (No Text) <Beren IV> [11/20 @ 19:09] (0/0)

Tolkien was on tricky ground. <Curious> [11/19 @ 12:07] (0/0)

No arguments there, <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 20:41] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: Beleg's Quest <Menelwyn> [11/18 @ 17:07] (1/1)

I'm glad you asked these... <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 18:16] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: The Counsels of Morgoth <Menelwyn> [11/18 @ 17:05] (3/6)

Who knows the counsels of Morgoth? <Lúthien_Rising> [11/21 @ 17:49] (1/1)

I *knew* it reminded me of something! <Kimi> [11/21 @ 18:05] (0/0)

Some answers to the questions... <Finrod Felagund 5> [11/18 @ 21:48] (1/2)

A question about your answer <Finding Frodo> [11/18 @ 22:53] (1/1)

They want their thoughts to be percepted <Finrod Felagund 5> [11/18 @ 23:37] (0/0)

Getting ready to commit genocide <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 17:54] (0/0)

Industrialization <legofreek> [11/18 @ 9:57] (1/5)

a short history <PhantomS> [11/18 @ 10:54] (1/4)

As a general policy <squire > [11/18 @ 12:32] (3/3)

Of course it was unsourced <PhantomS> [11/19 @ 11:06] (0/0)
Sure thing, but it won't be done for about 5 weeks (No Text) <legofreek> [11/19 @ 9:39] (0/0)
Dam movie <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 12:37] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: Mim <Menelwyn> [11/17 @ 17:44] (5/12)

#3. Weregild <Arquen> [11/18 @ 11:35] (1/4)

question on weregild practices <Lúthien_Rising> [11/20 @ 14:14] (1/3)

Weregild system <Arquen> [11/21 @ 17:14] (1/2)

ah yes, the Bloodfeud! <dna> [11/21 @ 19:19] (1/1)

the Njals saga is a very good exampel <Galadriel1a> [11/22 @ 8:43] (0/0)

Visiting with Mîm <ShireRat77> [11/18 @ 2:33] (2/3)

Congratulations on getting through it! <Finding Frodo> [11/18 @ 22:40] (1/1)

seconded, and welcome in! <Lúthien_Rising> [11/20 @ 14:09] (0/0)

Elves and Dwarves <beren_boy> [11/18 @ 9:15] (0/0)

The Dwarven History and conflict with the Elves <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 1:37] (0/0)
Turin is a big softie at heart <Finding Frodo> [11/17 @ 23:02] (0/0)
A little on the Petty-Dwarves <drogo_drogo> [11/17 @ 18:28] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: Gifts to Beleg <Menelwyn> [11/17 @ 17:42] (3/5)

Anglachel a gift from Heaven? <N.E. Brigand> [11/23 @ 16:48] (0/0)
hey...what about the Other sword? <Arquen> [11/18 @ 11:22] (1/2)

You mean apart from Angrist? <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 12:36] (1/1)

OK, I rummaged around a bit: <Arquen> [11/18 @ 16:58] (0/0)

It's a Divine Elvish Sword <Beren IV> [11/17 @ 18:01] (0/0)

Has an effort been made to publish the scholarly writings of this board? (No Text) <JediFonger> [11/16 @ 23:00] (2/22)

I don't think it would be easy to read in published form <Entmaiden> [11/17 @ 12:20] (3/20)

This has come up before <drogo_drogo> [11/17 @ 14:56] (1/13)

here are a few possibilities: <JediFonger> [11/17 @ 20:15] (1/12)

It took me... <N.E. Brigand> [11/17 @ 21:25] (1/11)

well i don't get this... <JediFonger> [11/17 @ 22:56] (2/10)

Most most this is an avocation rather than a vocation <drogo_drogo> [11/18 @ 9:12] (1/5)

the mark is a positive one. <JediFonger> [11/18 @ 10:47] (2/4)

redundant threads are precious to me... <an seileachan> [11/20 @ 16:26] (0/0)
It's not about putting it on a resume <ShireRat77> [11/18 @ 15:53] (1/2)

research <Penthe> [11/22 @ 23:05] (1/1)

Hat's archive link (No Text - Link Inside) <Lúthien_Rising> [11/23 @ 8:20] (0/0)

But is it really wasted? <Atlas> [11/18 @ 2:07] (2/3)

uh... you don't "research" anything before you converse with anyone else... <JediFonger> [11/18 @ 10:39] (1/1)

Sure I do. <Atlas> [11/18 @ 20:18] (0/0)

Amen, Atlas <notlost> [11/18 @ 9:08] (0/0)

It's a lot of work <squire > [11/17 @ 13:01] (1/1)

nope <Lúthien_Rising> [11/17 @ 13:12] (0/0)

quick answer <Lúthien_Rising> [11/17 @ 12:27] (1/3)

What about... <N.E. Brigand> [11/17 @ 15:33] (2/2)

Here's MLA Style for citing discussion boards (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [11/17 @ 16:38] (0/0)
"fair use" <Lúthien_Rising> [11/17 @ 16:19] (0/0)

No. (No Text) <Curious> [11/17 @ 10:13] (0/0)

If Morgoth won... <Beren IV> [11/16 @ 21:01] (7/13)

So, you answered one of my questions :) <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 16:22] (1/3)

I think Elvish reincarnation is unexplained <hartk> [11/19 @ 14:39] (2/2)

Elvish re-incarnation: Tolkien changed his mind <squire > [11/20 @ 13:24] (0/0)
Yes, that's absolutely right <Beren IV> [11/19 @ 16:25] (0/0)

"no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me" <hartk> [11/18 @ 13:30] (0/0)
Feeding off other peoples answers, <Brockomir> [11/17 @ 14:44] (1/2)

good luck <drogo_drogo> [11/17 @ 15:00] (1/1)

my best wishes to her <Brockomir> [11/17 @ 19:43] (0/0)

Morgoth's situation post-Silmaril theft <PhantomS> [11/17 @ 11:53] (0/0)
Spirits can lose energy. Look at Sauron's <Curious> [11/17 @ 10:48] (0/0)
I sense Morgoth would want to annihilate as much as possible <drogo_drogo> [11/17 @ 10:47] (1/1)

I think I saw that movie <Finding Frodo> [11/17 @ 22:27] (0/0)

questions <mischievious_dwarf> [11/16 @ 21:58] (0/0)

Sil. Ch. 21 Of Turin Turambar: The Outlaw Period <Menelwyn> [11/16 @ 17:22] (4/6)

some understanding of Turin <lucia> [11/18 @ 20:36] (0/0)
Turin and the outlaws <Entmaiden> [11/17 @ 23:14] (1/1)

Human societies <Beren IV> [11/18 @ 12:45] (0/0)

strongly recommend <dna> [11/16 @ 22:17] (1/1)

preemptive disclaimer <dna> [11/16 @ 22:49] (0/0)

Desperate bandits <Beren IV> [11/16 @ 19:20] (0/0)

Sil. Ch 21 Of Turin Turambar: Saeros <Menelwyn> [11/16 @ 17:18] (6/10)

trying to figure out the crimes involved <Galadriel1a> [11/19 @ 18:00] (0/0)
Tops;y-turvy Turin <nerdanel_50> [11/17 @ 15:30] (1/2)

an exquisite statement of conflict <lucia> [11/18 @ 20:26] (1/1)

I agree <nerdanel_50> [11/19 @ 17:13] (0/0)

I forget what they call this on "Law & Order" <Finding Frodo> [11/16 @ 21:50] (2/2)

"Depraved indifference to human (Elvish) life"? (No Text) <ShireRat77> [11/16 @ 23:03] (0/0)
I almost titled this post Law and Order! (No Text) <Menelwyn> [11/16 @ 22:43] (0/0)

Unhappy fool! <dna> [11/16 @ 19:27] (0/0)
Curses, and deer in the woods <Beren IV> [11/16 @ 19:03] (0/0)
fate and tragedy <drogo_drogo> [11/16 @ 18:51] (0/0)

Lord Fouls Bane, by Septhen Donaldson <Kid A> [11/16 @ 12:33] (2/5)

The First and Second Chronicles <froditz> [11/16 @ 13:22] (2/3)

agreed <Temujin> [11/17 @ 21:16] (0/0)
'Last Chronicles' out now <dlloyd> [11/16 @ 13:33] (1/1)

I didn't know that <froditz> [11/16 @ 13:41] (0/0)

Welcome, Kid A! <N.E. Brigand> [11/16 @ 13:21] (0/0)

Sil Ch. 20 – The Fifth Battle XVI: Summary <N.E. Brigand> [11/16 @ 11:33] (16/23)

Wow. <notlost> [11/18 @ 9:11] (0/0)
goldangit...missed footnotes <an seileachan> [11/18 @ 6:30] (0/0)
Thank you so much! <nerdanel_50> [11/17 @ 14:38] (0/0)

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Holy superscripts, Batman! <Entwife Wandlimb> [11/17 @ 1:49] (0/0)
Awesome summary! <Kimi> [11/17 @ 1:15] (0/0)
Excellent! Bravo! <Entmaiden> [11/16 @ 23:30] (0/0)
*awestruck* *faints* <Arquen> [11/16 @ 23:25] (0/0)
Amazing work! <Finding Frodo> [11/16 @ 21:34] (0/0)
Excellent discussion and brilliant summary! <erather> [11/16 @ 19:41] (0/0)
Excellent summary! Unfortunately... <Beren IV> [11/16 @ 16:35] (2/2)

Go to "Display messages from"... <N.E. Brigand> [11/16 @ 16:43] (0/0)
use "display messages" at the top of the board <Lúthien_Rising> [11/16 @ 16:39] (0/0)

Wow! Wonderful. One thing, though, <Curious> [11/16 @ 16:13] (1/2)

Maybe a summary is proportional <squire > [11/16 @ 16:22] (1/1)

All right, summary. <Curious> [11/16 @ 17:48] (0/0)

It doesn't get much better than this <squire > [11/16 @ 13:36] (2/3)

a model? *runs and hides* <Menelwyn> [11/16 @ 18:53] (1/1)

Don't worry. <N.E. Brigand> [11/17 @ 19:58] (0/0)

Notes? <N.E. Brigand> [11/16 @ 18:13] (0/0)

astonishingly good, N.E.! <Lúthien_Rising> [11/16 @ 13:09] (0/0)
You win the Christopher Tolkien Award <drogo_drogo> [11/16 @ 12:56] (0/0)
Fantastic! <dna> [11/16 @ 11:57] (0/0)
Don't worry <Owlyross> [11/16 @ 11:49] (0/0)

Can somebody give me some suggestions? <bamba> [11/16 @ 4:08] (5/11)

Leather Bound Edition <Daeorn Aldalómë> [11/21 @ 15:34] (0/0)
After you read the book... <N.E. Brigand> [11/16 @ 16:38] (0/0)
The Alan Lee editon might be best <drogo_drogo> [11/16 @ 11:15] (1/4)

About those corrections in the 50th Anniversary edition <Laura3> [11/18 @ 15:13] (1/3)

I can check my copy when I get home <Entmaiden> [11/19 @ 18:41] (1/2)

I checked the 50th Anniversary edition <Entmaiden> [11/20 @ 20:34] (1/1)

Ah, thank you so much for checking! <Laura3> [11/21 @ 15:34] (0/0)

Actually, to further complicate matters... <CelebornsMirror> [11/16 @ 10:34] (1/2)

if you wait <Lúthien_Rising> [11/16 @ 10:39] (1/1)

I'd ... <CelebornsMirror> [11/16 @ 14:14] (0/0)

choosing editions <Lúthien_Rising> [11/16 @ 8:22] (0/0)

"In dreams" in the book? <Kings of Men in Glory> [11/16 @ 1:09] (1/3)

No <Beren IV> [11/16 @ 14:58] (1/2)

but it is my favorite song from the films (No Text) <well he's back> [11/17 @ 13:45] (1/1)

Mine too (No Text) <Kings of Men in Glory> [11/17 @ 15:10] (0/0)