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The Return Journey #5: The Eagles Have Landed (And I Missed It!) <Altaira> [6/15 @ 22:43] (4/4)

Eagles and Ents <nerdanel_50> [6/16 @ 17:19] (0/0)
thoughts on the Eagles <drogo_drogo> [6/16 @ 9:23] (0/0)
The Eagles and the mundane <Bythedar> [6/16 @ 7:52] (0/0)
Eagles <Penthe> [6/16 @ 0:23] (0/0)

Oath taking <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 19:25] (5/34)

Merry and Pippin <Senta> [6/16 @ 22:52] (0/0)
Noble oaths and consequences <Arwen's daughter> [6/16 @ 22:23] (1/2)

Thanks so much <2ndcreator> [6/17 @ 21:46] (1/1)

Pride <Arwen's daughter> [6/17 @ 23:56] (0/0)

The oath of Finrod is viewed as noble <Finrod Felagund 5> [6/16 @ 14:01] (1/1)

Extremely well put F.F. (No Text) <Penthe> [6/16 @ 18:45] (0/0)

Having read all the earlier messages <Entmaiden> [6/15 @ 23:05] (2/4)

Re. Entmaiden <2ndcreator> [6/16 @ 18:31] (0/0)
In response <2ndcreator> [6/16 @ 18:03] (1/2)

Well, I think you want to consider why <Entmaiden> [6/16 @ 22:11] (1/1)

All good points, but <2ndcreator> [6/17 @ 21:28] (0/0)

I don't have a brilliant idea but I wanted to point out <Rhiandra Took> [6/15 @ 19:30] (1/22)

Motivation <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 19:32] (1/21)

not a good thing? <eowyn_rohan> [6/15 @ 19:38] (1/20)

To eowyn_rohan <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 19:52] (4/19)

Make sure you take into account the final oath <hatster> [6/16 @ 7:16] (1/1)

James 5 <2ndcreator> [6/16 @ 18:07] (0/0)

Thanks for sharing.. <eowyn_rohan> [6/16 @ 1:46] (0/0)
Mixed feelings? <N.E. Brigand> [6/15 @ 20:11] (1/3)

re. Mixed Feelings <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 20:20] (1/2)

The nature of oaths in LOTR <Liath> [6/15 @ 21:17] (1/1)

Re. Liath <2ndcreator> [6/16 @ 18:25] (0/0)

good oaths vs bad oaths <Penthe> [6/15 @ 20:03] (1/11)

My main point <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 20:09] (3/10)

I'd like to hear more <2ndcreator> [6/16 @ 18:33] (0/0)
Oh, well, that's OK then :-) <Penthe> [6/15 @ 20:57] (0/0)
Not unreasonable. <N.E. Brigand> [6/15 @ 20:18] (2/7)

re. unreasonable <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 20:25] (1/5)

Yet Yahweh's covenant w/ Abraham is a type of oath... <aragonvaar> [6/16 @ 12:19] (1/4)

Nice try <2ndcreator> [6/16 @ 18:11] (2/3)

And be careful about throwing "folly" around as ... <aragonvaar> [6/17 @ 15:06] (0/0)
Of course he was a Christian... <aragonvaar> [6/17 @ 14:20] (1/1)

Consider all sides <2ndcreator> [6/17 @ 21:24] (0/0)

Great point <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 20:21] (0/0)

How have you ceremoniously retired a well-worn copy on LotR? <elf_wannabee> [6/15 @ 16:45] (14/21)

Ceremoniously retired? <aragonvaar> [6/16 @ 12:20] (0/0)
How about donate it...used book shops?? <HobbitHearted> [6/16 @ 11:50] (2/2)

or to a school <Lúthien_Rising> [6/16 @ 12:31] (0/0)
Most used book stores or book drives wouldn't take books <tealbee> [6/16 @ 12:13] (0/0)

I wouldn't <Lúthien_Rising> [6/16 @ 9:25] (0/0)
Never, never, never! <drogo_drogo> [6/16 @ 9:08] (0/0)
Viking burial at sea. <Pukel-man> [6/16 @ 8:53] (0/0)
I woul buy a very nice looking box <Galadriel1a> [6/16 @ 4:16] (0/0)
The book must... <Man of Rohan> [6/15 @ 23:51] (1/1)

hahaha (No Text) <Athena daughter of Zeus> [6/16 @ 0:52] (0/0)

Huh? <Farawyn> [6/15 @ 22:31] (0/0)
Keep them <Penthe> [6/15 @ 19:50] (0/0)
How about <Inferno> [6/15 @ 18:00] (0/0)
Just keep it <Rhiandra Took> [6/15 @ 17:37] (1/4)

I have a number of old, battered, balding copies... <tealbee> [6/15 @ 21:47] (1/3)

That way <Athena daughter of Zeus> [6/16 @ 0:54] (1/2)

And you perhaps think you're kidding? *;-} <tealbee> [6/16 @ 12:10] (1/1)

Well, <Athena daughter of Zeus> [6/16 @ 16:40] (0/0)

I have the same problem <Menelwyn> [6/15 @ 17:32] (0/0)
Funeral <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/15 @ 17:17] (0/0)
Uhhh, Keep it? <EldersisofMerry> [6/15 @ 17:15] (0/0)

I'm thinking of starting a discussion about characters left out of the movie: interested? <Rhiandra Took> [6/15 @ 15:21] (7/17)

Don't forget the Gaffer! <drogo_drogo> [6/16 @ 9:39] (2/2)

That is a diverting thought! <Stephanie> [6/18 @ 9:55] (0/0)
Or the fox! (No Text) <Elf_Maven> [6/16 @ 15:27] (0/0)

It could be interesting, but <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/16 @ 3:39] (1/2)

As I was planning the discussion, <Rhiandra Took> [6/16 @ 6:06] (1/1)

Ah..that sounds lovely then <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/16 @ 15:03] (0/0)

Sackville Bagginses <eowyn_rohan> [6/15 @ 19:32] (0/0)
Tom <2ndcreator> [6/15 @ 19:28] (0/0)
If the discussion <Altaira> [6/15 @ 15:56] (1/4)

All right: When this gets started, it will be on the movie board. (No Text) <Rhiandra Took> [6/15 @ 16:02] (1/3)

Psst Rhiandra re: the Movie Board <Estelwyn> [6/17 @ 7:03] (1/2)

Alright-this is the first time I've planned a discussion but... <Rhiandra Took> [6/17 @ 11:49] (1/1)

OK :-) <Estelwyn> [6/17 @ 19:25] (0/0)

sounds good <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/15 @ 15:37] (0/0)
Some others <squire > [6/15 @ 15:32] (2/2)

Exercise in . . . all of the above? (No Text) <Elf_Maven> [6/16 @ 15:26] (0/0)
Those are some other good ones too... <Rhiandra Took> [6/15 @ 15:40] (0/0)

What happened to the Jewel? <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/15 @ 13:08] (1/2)

The Arkenstone? <ety3> [6/15 @ 13:24] (1/1)

That's it. Thanks <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/15 @ 13:31] (0/0)

The Return Journey #4: The Recounting <Altaira> [6/15 @ 10:50] (1/1)

Agency and animals - quick thoughts <Penthe> [6/15 @ 19:45] (0/0)

Does Tolkien give any clues to the government of King Elessar? <elf_wannabee> [6/15 @ 9:08] (5/9)

A little more information <Kimi> [6/15 @ 16:52] (0/0)
Not Governing <PhantomS> [6/15 @ 12:03] (1/3)

I respectfully disagree. <Curious> [6/15 @ 13:21] (2/2)

In some cases, yes, in some no. <PhantomS> [6/16 @ 14:24] (0/0)
religious function of kings <Galadriel1a> [6/15 @ 14:49] (0/0)

There are some clues in RotK <squire > [6/15 @ 11:17] (1/1)

WOW! Great insights! thanks! (No Text) <elf_wannabee> [6/15 @ 11:27] (0/0)

Well, in <Ossë> [6/15 @ 10:17] (0/0)
you got most of it right there <anduril07> [6/15 @ 9:43] (0/0)

How was.... (relation) <Apple Gooncha> [6/14 @ 23:59] (3/9)

Thanks for the help... <Apple Gooncha> [6/15 @ 9:01] (0/0)
Approximately <Inferno> [6/15 @ 0:59] (1/3)

Probably a lot closer, actually... <Beren IV> [6/15 @ 2:17] (2/2)

Perhaps <Inferno> [6/15 @ 17:53] (0/0)
I agree <Alveric> [6/15 @ 4:39] (0/0)

Phew! OK, a little bit tough of an explanation here, but here goes: <Azree> [6/15 @ 0:23] (1/3)

Quite closely related, considering. <Penthe> [6/15 @ 0:42] (1/2)

Some reasons for this <Alveric> [6/15 @ 4:54] (1/1)

Yes, very good contrast there. <Penthe> [6/15 @ 19:27] (0/0)

The Return Journey #3: Bilbo Wept <Altaira> [6/14 @ 23:34] (5/17)

Spontaneous Grief and Forgiveness <Daughter of Nienna> [6/15 @ 21:48] (1/2)

psst - D of N <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/16 @ 2:09] (1/1)

OK I have been <Daughter of Nienna> [6/16 @ 4:20] (0/0)

Bilbo pulling himself up by his bootstraps (well, no boots, but ya know...) <drogo_drogo> [6/15 @ 9:58] (2/3)

Maybe by his toe hair? :) (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/16 @ 12:41] (0/0)
No boots? <N.E. Brigand> [6/15 @ 14:38] (1/1)

Look in my footer: 'Pictures by Tolkien' link has 2 versions. (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/15 @ 21:53] (0/0)

It's been a while since <Entmaiden> [6/15 @ 9:14] (0/0)
on Bilbo wept <seedyduncan> [6/15 @ 6:56] (4/6)

welcome! excellent first entry . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [6/16 @ 1:12] (0/0)
I am not always here but that was a great insight. <FrodoloveIs> [6/15 @ 22:46] (1/2)

good to see you in the RR, hope to see you here more <Daughter of Nienna> [6/16 @ 0:59] (1/1)

:) I will compare when I get home <FrodoloveIs> [6/16 @ 6:26] (0/0)

Welcome! Here's a helpful hint. <Curious> [6/15 @ 10:31] (0/0)
Welcome! Hope to see you here more. (No Text) <Entmaiden> [6/15 @ 9:10] (0/0)

Purchasing peace <Penthe> [6/15 @ 0:11] (1/1)

That's an interesting take... <Beren IV> [6/15 @ 2:10] (0/0)

Elladan+Elrohir = twins? <EldersisofMerry> [6/14 @ 22:02] (2/4)

Identical twins, if I understand correctly <Beren IV> [6/15 @ 2:08] (0/0)
They were born in the same year <Kimi> [6/14 @ 22:13] (1/2)

That'll do it. ;-) <Nimrodel > [6/14 @ 22:31] (1/1)

I think so. <Kimi> [6/14 @ 22:49] (0/0)

The Return Journey #2: The Passing of Thorin Oakenshield <Altaira> [6/14 @ 21:06] (8/10)

On #5 <Arquen> [6/16 @ 1:12] (0/0)
on death and being carried <drogo_drogo> [6/15 @ 9:47] (0/0)
farewell : ¨¨( <Daughter of Nienna> [6/15 @ 3:43] (2/2)

Sam carrying Frodo <Penthe> [6/15 @ 19:55] (0/0)
Death of Thórin by Darrell Sweet - Torania (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/15 @ 3:47] (0/0)

beginning to tie up loose ends <Elen> [6/15 @ 3:30] (0/0)
Dwarven afterlife <Beren IV> [6/15 @ 2:06] (0/0)
This is a beautiful moment in the story <Entmaiden> [6/15 @ 0:00] (0/0)
Kingly heroism <Penthe> [6/14 @ 22:52] (0/0)
He ain't heavy, he's my hobbit <Kimi> [6/14 @ 21:28] (0/0)

Did Frodo break the record? <Lancelot> [6/14 @ 11:52] (3/11)

According to how time moves in places where elves exists... <FrodoloveIs> [6/14 @ 23:29] (2/3)

You bring up an interesting point. <linkinparkelf> [6/15 @ 0:40] (1/1)

I have to print this and digest at work/lunch. <FrodoloveIs> [6/15 @ 6:35] (0/0)

In other words...very possibly yes! (No Text) <FrodoloveIs> [6/14 @ 23:39] (0/0)

I wouldn't think so <Entmaiden> [6/14 @ 13:51] (0/0)
Quite possible <PhantomS> [6/14 @ 12:17] (2/5)

Is Bilbo's record "recognized" <erather> [6/14 @ 14:26] (1/1)

We trust that <PhantomS> [6/14 @ 14:52] (0/0)

also... <hills> [6/14 @ 12:51] (1/2)

re: Gollum's "record" <Entmaiden> [6/14 @ 13:54] (1/1)

record keeping <Penthe> [6/14 @ 19:35] (0/0)

The Return Journey Addition <Beren IV> [6/14 @ 0:58] (4/18)

Interesting. <Takeo> [6/14 @ 22:14] (0/0)
It's like the dragon passing like an express train <drogo_drogo> [6/14 @ 13:11] (0/0)
It's a good idea <Entmaiden> [6/14 @ 9:21] (3/14)

My appologies; <Beren IV> [6/15 @ 1:59] (0/0)
The very first and last things you say <Takeo> [6/14 @ 21:44] (0/0)
to add: that is the function of open discussions <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 13:52] (2/11)

The very first and last things you say <Takeo> [6/14 @ 22:01] (0/0)
The open discussion is a custom, not a requirement. <Curious> [6/14 @ 14:49] (3/9)

Custom and usage <Kimi> [6/14 @ 17:26] (1/1)

Well said, Kimi (No Text) <Altaira> [6/14 @ 23:32] (0/0)

and of course, I never meant to imply there were any rules about it... <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 15:22] (1/5)

Fair enough. <Curious> [6/14 @ 16:46] (1/4)

Agreed...No one should ever get jumped on <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 17:14] (1/3)

If you were too preachy, I was too <Entmaiden> [6/14 @ 17:32] (1/2)

I think what we each said <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 18:56] (1/1)

I hope <Curious> [6/15 @ 3:55] (0/0)

Curious....you have always been <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 15:08] (0/0)

A few possibilities... <Taur Edhel> [6/14 @ 3:19] (0/0)

The Return Journey #1: The Sounds of Silence <Altaira> [6/14 @ 0:28] (10/14)

Back to reality <Morwen> [6/14 @ 20:59] (0/0)
Questions in my mind <Penthe> [6/14 @ 19:27] (1/2)

Not a revision. <N.E. Brigand> [6/15 @ 14:45] (1/1)

Thanks N.E. (No Text) <Penthe> [6/15 @ 19:21] (0/0)

Bilbo wakes up. Again. <N.E. Brigand> [6/14 @ 17:17] (1/1)

good point: 'repeatedly learns about its limitations' (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 19:03] (0/0)

Just a typical chapter intro... <Arquen> [6/14 @ 16:06] (0/0)
the four elements <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 13:44] (1/1)

correction: 'pout' = 'put' (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 17:20] (0/0)

to give it a try <Elen> [6/14 @ 8:47] (0/0)
some answers <drogo_drogo> [6/14 @ 7:26] (0/0)
Weather and the Ring <Beren IV> [6/14 @ 1:03] (0/0)
The Ring's drawbacks <Merryk> [6/14 @ 1:00] (0/0)
Some thoughts <Kimi> [6/14 @ 0:51] (0/0)

Hobbit Timeline <Altaira> [6/14 @ 0:22] (3/3)

Mahalo! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 12:46] (0/0)
Something seems off. <N.E. Brigand> [6/14 @ 11:07] (0/0)
Excellent! Thanks <Entmaiden> [6/14 @ 9:22] (0/0)

**Secondary discussion schedule & leaders <Altaira> [6/14 @ 0:14] (2/6)

I can't open the calendar *sniff* <Draupne> [6/14 @ 6:56] (2/2)

Drat (link in here) <Altaira> [6/14 @ 11:03] (0/0)
I can't open it either <hatster> [6/14 @ 8:00] (0/0)

No mud-wrestling? <Kimi> [6/14 @ 0:30] (1/2)

*throws cloak over mud and bows* Ladies First! <squire > [6/14 @ 9:43] (1/1)

love your footer <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 12:40] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #18 - Summary <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 20:28] (14/17)

Thanks for the marvellous summary. <Penthe> [6/14 @ 19:19] (0/0)
Thanks, NE, what an interesting summary. <Arquen> [6/14 @ 16:08] (0/0)
Thanks! Sorry I was busy last week. <Curious> [6/14 @ 14:56] (0/0)
Great job on such short notice :) (No Text) <Bythedar> [6/14 @ 9:56] (0/0)
thanks for a great discussion (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [6/14 @ 7:17] (0/0)
Great Chapter! Great Work! (No Text) <Merryk> [6/14 @ 1:02] (0/0)
Yes, thank you! (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/14 @ 0:55] (0/0)
Nicely done. And thanks for filling in! <Altaira> [6/13 @ 23:58] (2/3)

Ditto N.E.'s thanks... <Daughter of Nienna> [6/14 @ 19:06] (0/0)
And thank you... <N.E. Brigand> [6/14 @ 11:15] (1/1)

:-) (No Text) <Altaira> [6/15 @ 0:53] (0/0)

Great job and amazing summary! Thanks, NE! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/13 @ 23:49] (0/0)
Thanks, NE! <Entmaiden> [6/13 @ 23:02] (0/0)
Great job! (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/13 @ 22:40] (0/0)
Mahalo Nui Loa! <Daughter of Nienna> [6/13 @ 20:47] (0/0)
A great job! And a marvellous summary! <Kimi> [6/13 @ 20:45] (0/0)
Sorry. That's #19. (No Text) <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 20:30] (0/0)

After reading LotR and the Hobbit, what should I read? <Rhiandra Took> [6/13 @ 19:34] (5/7)

Entmaiden isn't just being facetious, <Elf_Maven> [6/15 @ 9:35] (0/0)
JRRT's Letters <eowyn_rohan> [6/14 @ 2:28] (0/0)
after I read Sil <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/14 @ 1:20] (1/1)

Agreed <Owlyross> [6/14 @ 10:07] (0/0)

Other than Tolkien's works... <Nimrodel > [6/14 @ 0:16] (0/0)
LOTR and The Hobbit <Entmaiden> [6/13 @ 23:00] (1/1)

*snicker* <FantasyFan> [6/14 @ 14:24] (0/0)

OT: Suggestions for good fantasy books... <canadanthony> [6/13 @ 14:37] (12/23)

Have read one of the Pullman books <Larner> [6/16 @ 23:58] (0/0)
Teresa Edgerton is very underrated... <aragonvaar> [6/16 @ 12:33] (0/0)
Rather than read <Elf_Maven> [6/15 @ 23:27] (1/2)

I too prefer the older books <Alveric> [6/16 @ 12:19] (1/1)

I should try <Elf_Maven> [6/16 @ 15:29] (0/0)

Elizabeth Hand - Winterlong <IsisNewton> [6/15 @ 12:24] (0/0)
Thank you all... <canadanthony> [6/14 @ 20:17] (1/1)

Check out this link <Golfimbul> [6/15 @ 5:20] (0/0)

Anne McCaffrey's Dragonriders of Pern and other recommendations <drogo_drogo> [6/14 @ 15:26] (0/0)
Like Tolkien, I like history, true or feigned. <Nimrodel > [6/14 @ 0:21] (0/0)
I always recommend "The Worm Ouroboros" by ER Eddison (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/13 @ 22:42] (0/0)
have you read LeGuin's Earthsea novels? <an seileachan> [6/13 @ 22:33] (1/1)

LeGuin is the only one I found... <Ascarwen> [6/14 @ 10:24] (0/0)

Check out <Farawyn> [6/13 @ 22:01] (0/0)
Terry Goodkind is an interesting read. <Rhiandra Took> [6/13 @ 20:08] (0/0)
May I suggest <LilyFairbairn> [6/13 @ 17:18] (1/7)

HDM <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/13 @ 18:46] (1/6)

Is it too childish though? <canadanthony> [6/13 @ 19:35] (1/5)

Neither, really. <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/13 @ 20:49] (2/4)

Pullman himself does not refer to them as such <IsisNewton> [6/15 @ 12:15] (1/1)

Well, I can see why not <Larner> [6/17 @ 0:05] (0/0)

OK, thanks, I'll try them out... <canadanthony> [6/13 @ 21:59] (1/1)

good! I hope you enjoy them. (No Text) <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/13 @ 23:17] (0/0)

Singing in Silmarillion <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/13 @ 0:49] (4/8)

I think they were the same kind of song <squire > [6/13 @ 23:54] (1/2)

Thank you! One more question... <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/14 @ 1:10] (1/1)

Think about all the songs you hear in LotR <squire > [6/14 @ 10:08] (0/0)

Power of song <Arwen's daughter> [6/13 @ 12:17] (1/1)

You took mine... (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/13 @ 23:58] (0/0)

More singing . . . <Elf_Maven> [6/13 @ 11:23] (1/1)

I didn't remember that! <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/13 @ 13:36] (0/0)

The Music of the Ainur <Beren IV> [6/13 @ 1:59] (0/0)

Tolkien-related books? <Elf_Maven> [6/12 @ 23:18] (2/7)

can you be a little more specific? :-) <an seileachan> [6/13 @ 12:50] (1/5)

Let me <Elf_Maven> [6/13 @ 16:30] (3/4)

I Hope You Don't Mean "People's Guide to JRR Tolkien"! (No Text) <Ostadan> [6/14 @ 11:20] (1/1)

I hope YOU read the additional message below! (No Text) <Elf_Maven> [6/14 @ 16:30] (0/0)

yes, I knew you meant the newer stuff... <an seileachan> [6/13 @ 21:55] (0/0)
Oh, but I can highly recommend <Elf_Maven> [6/13 @ 20:50] (0/0)

It makes sense.... <Nimrodel > [6/12 @ 23:59] (0/0)

More Tolkien? <Apple Gooncha> [6/12 @ 19:33] (1/2)

You could try this site for starters (No Text - Link Inside) <nerdanel_50> [6/12 @ 21:15] (1/1)

Thanks.. <Apple Gooncha> [6/12 @ 23:04] (0/0)

Beowulf - Verse 1 <Grima Wormtongue> [6/12 @ 14:51] (3/11)

Ettins and elves and evil-spirits <an seileachan> [6/12 @ 19:02] (3/6)

Old English elves and orcs <Modtheow> [6/15 @ 14:19] (0/0)
On 'ettins' . . . <Pukel-man> [6/13 @ 8:39] (2/3)

Yes, ettins were part of the White Witch's army: <Arevanye> [6/14 @ 18:00] (0/0)
Aren't there "ettenmoors"... <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 15:29] (1/1)

Just happened on a reference <Modtheow> [6/14 @ 18:54] (0/0)

on "elves" <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/12 @ 22:06] (0/0)

Grima, <Lúthien_Rising> [6/12 @ 17:22] (1/1)

Here ya go! (No Text - Link Inside) <Grima Wormtongue> [6/12 @ 17:39] (0/0)

Some quick remarks <Elen> [6/12 @ 17:19] (1/1)

Beowulf <Static> [6/13 @ 14:36] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #18 - Open Discussion <N.E. Brigand> [6/11 @ 21:47] (4/5)

Could Bard have traded... <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 22:20] (0/0)
Goblins' fighting experience? <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 19:49] (1/1)

I had the same thought! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/13 @ 20:38] (0/0)

Gandalf's "last blast." <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 15:27] (0/0)
brief Thorin observation <Daughter of Nienna> [6/13 @ 13:48] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #17 - Sailor’s Delight <N.E. Brigand> [6/11 @ 20:39] (3/3)

We say "shepherd's delight" <Kimi> [6/13 @ 16:22] (0/0)
Elves and Eagles <Beren IV> [6/13 @ 0:03] (0/0)
Eucatastrophe with a clunk on the noggin <drogo_drogo> [6/12 @ 16:40] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #16 - Heart Shall Be Bolder <N.E. Brigand> [6/11 @ 19:05] (5/6)

Stupid Orcs, and Vitruous *and* Mighty Elves <Beren IV> [6/12 @ 23:57] (0/0)
The 'perfect heroic death' . . . <Pukel-man> [6/12 @ 13:02] (1/1)

Thank-you for saying this <Daughter of Nienna> [6/13 @ 13:39] (0/0)

Beorhtnoth & common sense <Elen> [6/12 @ 11:34] (0/0)
á la Maynard G. Krebs: "Work!" <nerdanel_50> [6/12 @ 1:27] (0/0)
Beauty & Glory <Penthe> [6/12 @ 1:12] (0/0)

Elronds' wife? <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/11 @ 15:21] (3/9)

Is she even still alive? <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 22:20] (1/3)

Surely she'll be ok there. <erather> [6/11 @ 23:06] (1/2)

I was thinking about fading: <Beren IV> [6/12 @ 1:00] (1/1)

I don't think so <Alveric> [6/12 @ 3:50] (0/0)

She was tortured in the orcs' dens, then rescued by her twin sons. <Morwilwarin> [6/11 @ 15:32] (0/0)
If by 'all of this' <Inferno> [6/11 @ 15:24] (1/3)

Where can I read about that? (No Text) <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/11 @ 15:48] (1/2)

You just did <squire > [6/11 @ 16:12] (1/1)

pevasive creepiness <Penthe> [6/12 @ 1:02] (0/0)

Question about the Valar <White Gull> [6/11 @ 11:55] (1/16)

Oh sure they're there, but they're hiding. <squire > [6/11 @ 12:29] (4/15)

Remember Morgoth's role. <Curious> [6/12 @ 5:58] (3/7)

Very much agree <Chip of Dale> [6/13 @ 2:07] (0/0)
The West wind & death of Saruman <hartk> [6/12 @ 10:25] (2/4)

obliteration? <Dain II Ironfoot> [6/14 @ 17:25] (0/0)
Sauron too. <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 16:47] (1/2)

Saruman's spirit... <hartk> [6/13 @ 20:51] (1/1)

Good point. <N.E. Brigand> [6/13 @ 22:07] (0/0)

Thanks <White Gull> [6/12 @ 10:11] (0/0)

Wait a minute... <maKo> [6/11 @ 23:25] (1/2)

The world was originally flat. <erather> [6/12 @ 0:33] (1/1)

Tolkien edited that. (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/12 @ 0:56] (0/0)

agreed... <hartk> [6/11 @ 19:07] (0/0)
Does anyone second that? <White Gull> [6/11 @ 17:12] (1/2)

Iambic quadrameter it is! <squire > [6/12 @ 1:01] (1/1)

I should post a sound clip. <White Gull> [6/12 @ 10:52] (0/0)

Nature of the relationships between women and their husbands in Middle Earth <Arwen's cousin> [6/11 @ 9:49] (7/21)

Marraige and the power of oaths <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 22:17] (1/2)

I don't think it's impossible.. <Alveric> [6/12 @ 5:38] (1/1)

If it were possible, the adulterer would end up a tortured ghost...:) (No Text) <RurouniKJS> [6/12 @ 12:06] (0/0)

Also worth considering when discussing Tolkien's views on marriage -- "The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun" <Saxony> [6/11 @ 19:50] (1/1)

Marriage subject to temporal conditions <Liath> [6/15 @ 22:17] (0/0)

Middle-earth Stepford Wives? <drogo_drogo> [6/11 @ 16:02] (0/0)
Marriage in ME <Ceorl> [6/11 @ 12:29] (0/0)
Not a lot of information, but some of my thoughts <squire > [6/11 @ 12:13] (1/2)

Marraige, love, and Divine providence <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 22:14] (1/1)

Don't confuse divine providence with authorial providence <squire > [6/12 @ 0:05] (0/0)

Marriage Failures <Alveric> [6/11 @ 11:47] (1/3)

Heh, good point! <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 22:10] (1/2)

Well, Henry VIII broke with the Catholic Church <erather> [6/11 @ 23:16] (1/1)

Henry VIII's first wife did not outlive him. <Baggins Babe> [6/12 @ 13:54] (0/0)

*Peeks into RR from doorway* <Morwen> [6/11 @ 11:22] (3/6)

Apart from Aredhel and Eol... <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 22:08] (1/1)

Why should Galadriel want to die? <erather> [6/11 @ 23:09] (0/0)

One bad marriage I can think of among elves <Bythedar> [6/11 @ 14:49] (1/1)

Ooh, good example. <Morwen> [6/11 @ 15:49] (0/0)

Morwen! Pleasant to see an old face! <NZ Strider> [6/11 @ 12:35] (1/1)

Thanks, NZ <Morwen> [6/11 @ 15:46] (0/0)

Denethor…A tragic Greek hero? <Arwen's daughter> [6/10 @ 23:37] (3/20)

Is he a 'hero' to begin with? <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 11:47] (2/2)

Good point. <Darkstone> [6/11 @ 15:07] (0/0)
He has the right stuff. <Pukel-man> [6/11 @ 11:57] (0/0)

A Greek hero in a non-Greek world. <Curious> [6/11 @ 9:32] (2/4)

Tragic greek hero wannabe. <White Gull> [6/11 @ 11:15] (1/1)

Depends on the question <Inferno> [6/11 @ 11:21] (0/0)

Why? <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 10:59] (1/1)

Tolkien said "heathen," not me. <Curious> [6/12 @ 5:31] (0/0)

Most definitely <Inferno> [6/11 @ 0:56] (2/11)

Tragic Hero <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/11 @ 1:17] (2/9)

Denethor's flaw/mistake <drogo_drogo> [6/11 @ 9:34] (3/5)

Denethor is entitled to use the palantir. <erather> [6/11 @ 20:50] (0/0)
You don't think Boromir makes a bad call? <Pukel-man> [6/11 @ 11:52] (1/1)

He does desire to rule <drogo_drogo> [6/11 @ 15:42] (0/0)

Denethor's tragedy & flaws <well he's back> [6/11 @ 10:45] (1/1)

Yes, he served Ecthelion <Bythedar> [6/11 @ 10:56] (0/0)

Yes, but .... <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/11 @ 3:38] (1/2)

I am not sure Denethor redeems himself <Bythedar> [6/11 @ 8:28] (1/1)

I agree <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/11 @ 12:43] (0/0)

I agree! (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 1:15] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: Interjection: The Elves' chill flame <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:53] (1/2)

Just to keep the board tidy, here's a link <Kimi> [6/10 @ 22:58] (1/1)

I see... <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 1:05] (0/0)

SUGGESTIONS? Transitoriness in Middle-earth <akocubin> [6/10 @ 15:42] (7/12)

History of the Numenoreans maybe <Alveric> [6/11 @ 4:19] (0/0)
Galadriel & Lothlorien <Penthe> [6/10 @ 19:55] (0/0)
"the passing of the races" <hatster> [6/10 @ 19:30] (1/1)

Well put (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:47] (0/0)

no help, but ... <Lúthien_Rising> [6/10 @ 18:13] (0/0)
Another Tolkien text to read <drogo_drogo> [6/10 @ 17:56] (0/0)
A good example of this would be the attitudes of Arwen and Elrond. <Morwilwarin> [6/10 @ 17:36] (1/3)

tingles and goosebumps. I read this today <FrodoloveIs> [6/11 @ 0:18] (2/2)

122 years by my reckoning. <Morwen> [6/11 @ 10:43] (0/0)
121 years if you mean Aragorn and Arwen <hatster> [6/11 @ 6:32] (0/0)

Take a look at some of the major characters'... <squire > [6/10 @ 15:58] (1/1)

I'm reminded of Gandalf's line <Entmaiden> [6/10 @ 18:57] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #15 – Goblins, Goblins Everywhere <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 12:43] (4/4)

Elite Goblins <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:45] (0/0)
very quick answers <drogo_drogo> [6/10 @ 17:59] (0/0)
Sea of troubles <4u1e> [6/10 @ 17:20] (0/0)
Goblins on the beach? ewww! <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 13:25] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #14 – “To Me! To Me!” <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 12:40] (5/7)

ancient spirits <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 15:25] (2/2)

Thorin the "grumble bunny"--LOL! <nerdanel_50> [6/12 @ 12:54] (0/0)
addendum <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 15:57] (0/0)

The King Under the Mountain <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:41] (0/0)
Glowing treasure <Penthe> [6/10 @ 19:50] (0/0)
There was also Gandalf's voice at the Black Gate <Golfimbul> [6/10 @ 15:05] (0/0)
Cult of Personality <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 13:20] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #13 – “It Was Very Terrible” <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 12:34] (7/14)

Hobbit maps <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 2:19] (0/0)
Battle of Five Armies map (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 1:56] (0/0)
The chill flame of elvish weapons <Takeo> [6/11 @ 0:17] (1/3)

Question: Is it really flame? <Beren IV> [6/11 @ 2:16] (1/2)

Hmmm... I'll go for metaphorical... <NZ Strider> [6/11 @ 4:17] (1/1)

hmmm is this why <hatster> [6/11 @ 7:43] (0/0)

On Moria and the Pervasiveness of Orc kind <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:35] (0/0)
Moira! <Kimi> [6/10 @ 22:05] (0/0)
Just because Bilbo survives <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/10 @ 15:04] (0/0)
Halls of Montezuma and the shores of Tripoley <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 13:13] (1/4)

You could also compare... <Golfimbul> [6/10 @ 15:02] (1/3)

I was going to bring up that point, <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:36] (1/2)

Tolkien did say.... <Golfimbul> [6/11 @ 8:47] (1/1)

opps make that "political" not "critical" :) (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/11 @ 8:48] (0/0)

Apparently some Numenorians were allowed in Valinor <Vironwe> [6/10 @ 12:18] (3/5)

Not surprising really <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 13:57] (1/1)

Imagine! (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:27] (0/0)

Not as surprising as <nerdanel_50> [6/10 @ 12:55] (0/0)
Middle Earth was like a "hot rod" for JRRT... <hartk> [6/10 @ 12:35] (1/1)

trying to visualize that one <Lúthien_Rising> [6/10 @ 13:52] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #12 – Mice! Mice on Wings! <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 12:17] (8/10)

Nazgul & WWI Fighter planes <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 1:24] (0/0)
New Art Site: Hobbitish - Worldwide illustrated Hobbit Editions (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 0:40] (0/0)
If they had more forces <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:24] (0/0)
"I was there" <Kimi> [6/10 @ 21:08] (1/2)

Didn't the fell beasts... <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 23:57] (1/1)

I wouldn't like <Kimi> [6/11 @ 0:10] (0/0)

Bilbo's small role <Penthe> [6/10 @ 19:39] (0/0)
The bat cloud <nerdanel_50> [6/10 @ 13:06] (0/0)
Battle plans <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 13:01] (0/0)
veterans of warfare <Menelwyn> [6/10 @ 12:52] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #11 – Gandalf as Bismarck? <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 12:14] (5/7)

Whew! made it! <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 0:22] (0/0)
You ask too *&#@ many qyestions in one post. <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:17] (2/2)

I tried to make up for it... <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 23:31] (0/0)
Forgot to add <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 22:19] (0/0)

crossing Mirkwood <Penthe> [6/10 @ 19:45] (0/0)
Thoughts on a couple of your questions <nerdanel_50> [6/10 @ 13:17] (0/0)
So many questions, so little time! <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 12:55] (0/0)

How old is Galadriel? (No Text) <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/10 @ 11:29] (1/14)

over 7045 at the end of the Third Age. <hartk> [6/10 @ 11:53] (3/13)

Over ten thousand <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 15:15] (1/1)

Galadriels Age and dates in the Elder Days <Alveric> [6/11 @ 6:00] (0/0)

An ancient Elf <Alveric> [6/10 @ 12:17] (2/9)

Middle Earth clearly evolves much more slowly <erather> [6/10 @ 16:10] (1/4)

Slowly is as slowly does <squire > [6/10 @ 16:50] (1/3)

I don't think life was too similar in 1750s to 1750BC.. <Kirk_> [6/11 @ 9:12] (1/2)

Speed of progress thing <Alveric> [6/11 @ 10:34] (1/1)

That's true, but development still had been much faster than in middle-earth :) <Kirk_> [6/11 @ 12:32] (0/0)

what do you think <CelebornsMirror> [6/10 @ 13:20] (3/3)

Who knows... <Alveric> [6/10 @ 15:30] (0/0)
They would be amazed that so many people... <hartk> [6/10 @ 13:51] (0/0)
....psst, CM <squire > [6/10 @ 13:45] (0/0)

Thank you (No Text) <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/10 @ 12:17] (0/0)

A question about Numenoreans and death... <Amycakes> [6/9 @ 23:42] (9/11)

Sounds like the choice of a euthenasia of sorts...interesting. (No Text) <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/11 @ 3:52] (1/2)

Dying willingly rather than by necessity <PhantomS> [6/11 @ 15:00] (1/1)

To add, the call to move on must be there <hartk> [6/13 @ 21:03] (0/0)

Ty very much to everyone who responded :) <Amycakes> [6/10 @ 22:32] (0/0)
They couldn't stop the aging process, though it happened more slowly than with other mortals. <Rhiandra Took> [6/10 @ 17:11] (0/0)
addition to other answers <PhantomS> [6/10 @ 11:03] (0/0)
If you get a chance, read the Silmarillion <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 8:10] (0/0)
Death and the Numenorean <Alveric> [6/10 @ 5:12] (0/0)
It seems clear from the appendices of LOTR..... <Baggins Babe> [6/10 @ 2:47] (0/0)
That's what got them into trouble in the first place. <Nimrodel > [6/10 @ 1:05] (0/0)
IMHO <Athena daughter of Zeus> [6/10 @ 0:56] (0/0)

Was the Balrog aware of the One Ring's existence? <linkinparkelf> [6/9 @ 21:04] (5/29)

Some more interesting tidbits for consideration. <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 0:39] (1/3)

OH, now I have even more questions <linkinparkelf> [6/11 @ 4:30] (1/2)

Evil can not create. <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 10:42] (1/1)

Number of Balrogs <Alveric> [6/11 @ 11:12] (0/0)

Would the Balrog form an Axis of Evil with Sauron and Saruman? (My UUT) <drogo_drogo> [6/10 @ 9:21] (1/1)

At first, but it would ultimately crumble <Bythedar> [6/10 @ 9:41] (0/0)

Good question <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 6:23] (2/17)

If it was the Balrog who sent the storm <linkinparkelf> [6/10 @ 14:07] (1/11)

But if the Balrog <Wynnie> [6/11 @ 11:39] (1/10)

Maybe it took a while to come up from the depths of Moria? <linkinparkelf> [6/11 @ 13:35] (1/9)

Was Pippin's foolishness <Wynnie> [6/11 @ 13:50] (1/8)

Could be, but... <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 15:12] (1/7)

But then why <Wynnie> [6/11 @ 15:38] (2/6)

Not immediately. <N.E. Brigand> [6/11 @ 19:21] (1/1)

You're right <Wynnie> [6/11 @ 22:12] (0/0)

Hmm. <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 16:34] (1/3)

could be jsut a common plot device <linkinparkelf> [6/11 @ 17:50] (1/2)

That makes sense <Wynnie> [6/11 @ 22:26] (1/1)

a combination of all the above thoughts? (No Text) <linkinparkelf> [6/11 @ 22:43] (0/0)

Was it not Saruman who caused the storm? (No Text) <Strider -(Ranger)-> [6/10 @ 9:55] (2/4)

Maybe. <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 13:42] (1/2)

Probably within his power, but.. <Alveric> [6/10 @ 15:14] (1/1)

I don't know. <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 20:12] (0/0)

Purely a Film thing <Alveric> [6/10 @ 10:16] (0/0)

I doubt <Ossë> [6/10 @ 5:31] (0/0)
The Balrog and the Great Ring <Alveric> [6/10 @ 4:53] (1/3)

But would the balrog have destroyed the ring to kill sauron? (No Text) <Strider -(Ranger)-> [6/10 @ 10:00] (1/2)

I doubt it <Alveric> [6/10 @ 10:11] (1/1)

Yea but <Strider -(Ranger)-> [6/10 @ 21:38] (0/0)

fall of Thangorodrim <Lorien-lover> [6/9 @ 15:11] (3/6)

He's not that big <PhantomS> [6/10 @ 13:55] (1/2)

see that helps <Lorien-lover> [6/10 @ 14:29] (1/1)

it was. <PhantomS> [6/10 @ 22:11] (0/0)

Ancalagon <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 6:17] (0/0)
It's best not to be too literal <squire > [6/9 @ 16:05] (1/1)

well it might help <Lorien-lover> [6/9 @ 16:10] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #10 – Particularly Excellent Fireworks <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 14:59] (3/6)

same great-grandfather. <Daughter of Nienna> [6/10 @ 22:07] (0/0)
'Hold it right there' <Ossë> [6/10 @ 7:05] (0/0)
Fireworks indeed! <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 6:14] (1/3)

Physics of bows <Fisher> [6/10 @ 9:54] (2/2)

Strength of the material <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 15:18] (0/0)
It might depend more on the shape <Luinaelin> [6/10 @ 13:44] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #9 - Over Hill or Under Hill? <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 14:34] (4/12)

Elvenking <Daughter of Nienna> [6/10 @ 21:32] (2/3)

Battle of Nanduhirion [Azanulbizar] (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 3:02] (0/0)
What's Sam's remark about elves? <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 23:28] (1/1)

But Sam assumes their goodness. <Penthe> [6/11 @ 0:07] (0/0)

Thranduil is a better person than you guys give him credit for <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 6:10] (1/2)

Nice to see someone sticking up for Good King Thranduil <Alveric> [6/10 @ 6:37] (1/1)

Great Elvenking defense in links <drogo_drogo> [6/10 @ 9:33] (0/0)

Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [6/10 @ 0:30] (0/0)
I always thought Thranduil's change of attitude puzzling <Entmaiden> [6/10 @ 0:28] (2/3)

Thranduil and the Gold <Alveric> [6/10 @ 5:33] (0/0)
No. I don't think so... <Merryk> [6/10 @ 1:47] (1/1)

Uh, a great affection for Elvishness... <aragonvaar> [6/10 @ 14:24] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #8 - Old-Fashioned Language <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 14:18] (6/8)

A phrase which here means: "Move it or lose it." <Orald> [6/12 @ 10:08] (0/0)
ancient warriors, generals and politicians <Daughter of Nienna> [6/10 @ 19:22] (0/0)
Numbers <Ceorl> [6/10 @ 13:23] (0/0)
3... <Beren IV> [6/10 @ 6:05] (0/0)
Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [6/10 @ 0:21] (1/2)

More than a thousand. <Kimi> [6/10 @ 0:56] (1/1)

Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks, Kimi! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [6/11 @ 13:21] (0/0)

The narrator's comments <hatster> [6/9 @ 18:50] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #7 – Shoddy Dwarves <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 13:57] (4/7)

dwarves, iron, mattocks <Daughter of Nienna> [6/10 @ 19:09] (1/1)

Battle of Nanduhirion [Azanulbizar] <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 2:52] (0/0)

They used what they had available <Altaira> [6/10 @ 1:16] (0/0)
To de-Disneyfy the Dwarves <drogo_drogo> [6/9 @ 17:28] (0/0)
Dain's Dwarves <4u1e> [6/9 @ 14:18] (2/2)

Dwarf defence <4u1e> [6/9 @ 17:13] (0/0)
Mattocks . . . <Pukel-man> [6/9 @ 14:57] (0/0)

Treebeard as stonemason? <Elf_Maven> [6/8 @ 21:33] (3/11)

Yes, of course <squire > [6/9 @ 9:43] (2/7)

"Perhaps" -- yes, I think <Elf_Maven> [6/9 @ 14:31] (0/0)
Another tip: always think about Tolkien's thinking. <Pukel-man> [6/9 @ 13:45] (1/5)

"The cunning work of giants" <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 15:12] (2/4)

Found the quote: <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 12:52] (0/0)
'The Ruin' . . . <Pukel-man> [6/9 @ 15:46] (1/2)

The phrase "eald enta geweorc" <NZ Strider> [6/9 @ 16:48] (1/1)

Good point! <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 17:34] (0/0)

Interesting. <Atlas> [6/9 @ 1:46] (0/0)
Not sure what you're asking... <Beren IV> [6/9 @ 1:16] (1/1)

I guess I wasn't really <Elf_Maven> [6/9 @ 14:34] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #6 - Western Wind, Eastern Spur <N.E. Brigand> [6/8 @ 20:45] (3/7)

Smaug Flies around Mountain by Tolkien: ruins of Dale in right (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/10 @ 20:59] (1/4)

Seems not to match text or map. <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 22:10] (1/3)

another one in Annotated Hobbit if you have . . . <Daughter of Nienna> [6/10 @ 23:30] (1/2)

Ah, that's clearer. <N.E. Brigand> [6/10 @ 23:45] (1/1)

Dale ruins by Lee (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/11 @ 14:50] (0/0)

hasty answers <drogo_drogo> [6/9 @ 9:12] (0/0)
Preparations for battle <Beren IV> [6/9 @ 1:23] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #5 – Polite words <N.E. Brigand> [6/8 @ 14:50] (4/4)

some quick answers <drogo_drogo> [6/9 @ 12:27] (0/0)
Dragon insults and demands <Atlas> [6/9 @ 2:31] (0/0)
1 and 4 <Beren IV> [6/9 @ 1:13] (0/0)
Manners maketh man.. er, dwarf <Kimi> [6/8 @ 16:44] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #4, or #12/3 – Cursed fractions! <N.E. Brigand> [6/8 @ 14:15] (7/11)

I think "...setting aside the gems" <Merryk> [6/10 @ 1:35] (0/0)
Methods of payment <Atlas> [6/9 @ 1:36] (1/1)

About that fourteenth share: <Kimi> [6/10 @ 1:41] (0/0)

Fractional Curses <Beren IV> [6/9 @ 1:03] (0/0)
Thorin is reconciled <Kimi> [6/8 @ 16:37] (0/0)
Gandalf's beard <Daughter of Nienna> [6/8 @ 16:03] (2/3)

Beards are dead cells anyway... <Penthe> [6/9 @ 18:29] (0/0)
there is that <93143> [6/8 @ 16:18] (1/1)

I agree! bad idea to fool with oaths or curses! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/9 @ 3:37] (0/0)

Mim's curse vs. Androg (Children of Hurin) <93143> [6/8 @ 15:50] (0/0)
Maybe he thinks Bard... <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 14:22] (0/0)

orcs <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/8 @ 13:34] (2/7)

The timeline suggests Elves <Temujin> [6/9 @ 10:09] (0/0)
Mainly.... <Vironwe> [6/8 @ 13:45] (1/5)

Tolkien also changed his mind.. <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 14:06] (1/4)

How men? <Mrs. Mandy Legolas> [6/8 @ 15:52] (2/3)

It was a Belief of the Elves <Alveric> [6/9 @ 12:16] (0/0)
I think "Morgoth's Ring"... <N.E. Brigand> [6/8 @ 20:13] (1/1)

My reasoning is that... <aragonvaar> [6/10 @ 14:28] (0/0)

Reminder: Board policy regarding political threads <Inferno> [6/8 @ 1:54] (1/9)

I have this overwhelming temptation <Curious> [6/8 @ 11:44] (4/8)

I wonder how he'd view Margaret Thatcher,Tony Blair, etc. <drogo_drogo> [6/9 @ 12:20] (0/0)
I'd guess... <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 14:01] (0/0)
He did have this habit of calling people orcs, though ... (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/8 @ 11:59] (1/4)

Reminds me of a limerick <RosieLass> [6/8 @ 16:58] (2/3)

Spelling "orcs." <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 15:28] (1/1)

I can't see that without thinking... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/11 @ 14:06] (0/0)

Classic (No Text) <Ransom> [6/8 @ 19:49] (0/0)

*shakes head*---eeeeeevil :o) (No Text) <Gourry> [6/8 @ 11:54] (0/0)

Easterlings <rfb> [6/7 @ 23:28] (7/7)

Because Gondor whacked them <PhantomS> [6/8 @ 14:30] (0/0)
Everyone to the east is an Easterling, <Curious> [6/8 @ 10:30] (0/0)
One of many Easterling Peoples <Alveric> [6/8 @ 4:16] (0/0)
The wainraiders are a type of Easterling (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 0:57] (0/0)
The Wainriders is most likely just reffering to them during a certain time period <Finrod Felagund 5> [6/8 @ 0:49] (0/0)
Well, not quite <Timerider> [6/8 @ 0:42] (0/0)
Because... <Nimrodel > [6/7 @ 23:56] (0/0)

Origin of Gandalf <Less than Gandalf> [6/7 @ 19:39] (6/9)

Alternatives <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 1:56] (0/0)
If you want some information without leaving LOTR... <Finrod Felagund 5> [6/8 @ 0:55] (0/0)
I recommend reading <Inferno> [6/7 @ 23:56] (0/0)
Well heres a web site I found that's Pretty good... <SlowLil'Hobbit> [6/7 @ 20:03] (1/2)

Why not go to the original source? <Nimrodel > [6/7 @ 23:59] (1/1)

Go back even further!! The original inspiration. <Hama of Rohan> [6/11 @ 1:07] (0/0)

I just read about this ! <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/7 @ 19:59] (0/0)
Check out the Encylopedia of Arda <hatster> [6/7 @ 19:54] (1/1)

Good job hatster <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/7 @ 20:00] (0/0)

Order of Wizards <river-tawe-dweller> [6/7 @ 14:00] (2/2)

If you read the Letters <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 1:53] (0/0)
2 others... <hartk> [6/7 @ 14:36] (0/0)

Over The Sea <river-tawe-dweller> [6/7 @ 13:57] (4/5)

Recommended reading: <Nimrodel > [6/8 @ 0:01] (0/0)
Go to Movie Discussion entitled 'I don't get the ending' (No Text) <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/7 @ 14:38] (1/1)

Here's the link to that discussion. (No Text - Link Inside) <erather> [6/7 @ 19:09] (0/0)

Go to Movie Disussion <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/7 @ 14:37] (0/0)
Folks here would say follow what the book says...;-) <hartk> [6/7 @ 14:32] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #3 - The bewilderment of the treasure <Altaira> [6/7 @ 13:08] (8/21)

Also found in... <Lothirienne> [6/8 @ 14:36] (1/2)

Right story... <N.E. Brigand> [6/8 @ 18:36] (1/1)

thanks! <Lothirienne> [6/9 @ 11:51] (0/0)

Dragon greed and other selfishness. <Atlas> [6/8 @ 11:05] (1/3)

Bilbo the antihero! <Curious> [6/8 @ 11:13] (2/2)

Bilbo the socialist antihero? <N.E. Brigand> [6/9 @ 15:20] (0/0)
Precisely! <Atlas> [6/9 @ 0:36] (0/0)

Bilbo is resistant, not immune. <Curious> [6/8 @ 6:16] (0/0)
Others have cited the Dragon's power - and so will I. (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 1:53] (1/2)

I'm in the same boat as you, but I will add <NZ Strider> [6/8 @ 4:15] (1/1)

An earlier version of "The Hoard"... <N.E. Brigand> [6/8 @ 18:27] (0/0)

Panic <Penthe> [6/7 @ 23:21] (0/0)
"Dragon-Spell" <Daughter of Nienna> [6/7 @ 19:08] (0/0)
Oath's and Smaug's taint <Bythedar> [6/7 @ 15:46] (0/0)
Bewilderment. <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 15:32] (2/6)

Smaug's Name <Alveric> [6/8 @ 4:44] (0/0)
Smaug's name <Bythedar> [6/7 @ 15:48] (1/4)

Tolkien in fact called it... <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 16:10] (3/3)

Gothic, actually... (No Text) <NZ Strider> [6/8 @ 15:04] (0/0)
Old High German maybe? <Draupne> [6/8 @ 9:39] (0/0)
Smaug is quite loquacious <Penthe> [6/7 @ 23:16] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #2 - A likely story <Altaira> [6/7 @ 13:03] (5/20)

Gandalf gangs up. <Atlas> [6/8 @ 10:53] (2/10)

Bilbo didn't steal the arkenstone. <Takeo> [6/8 @ 17:07] (1/4)

Not theft <Ransom> [6/8 @ 19:40] (1/3)

Theft <Atlas> [6/9 @ 0:58] (2/2)

Not semantics. <Takeo> [6/9 @ 13:10] (0/0)
The old slippery slope. <Curious> [6/9 @ 9:55] (0/0)

The narrator has a heavy hand <Curious> [6/8 @ 14:27] (1/4)

There's a lot more at stake in LotR <squire > [6/8 @ 17:27] (1/3)

But then there's the Scouring. <Curious> [6/8 @ 18:05] (1/2)

What's more realistic about the Scouring? <squire > [6/8 @ 18:19] (1/1)

Fair enough. (No Text) <Curious> [6/8 @ 18:23] (0/0)

Least said, soonest mended <Kimi> [6/7 @ 23:21] (1/1)

Hehe, I guess I just wondered <Altaira> [6/8 @ 0:16] (0/0)

Oaths and contracts <Penthe> [6/7 @ 20:00] (4/4)

Excellent! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/10 @ 12:51] (0/0)
Nice! I'll agree too. (No Text) <Curious> [6/8 @ 6:12] (0/0)
I'll settle for agreeing with this. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [6/8 @ 4:05] (0/0)
That's very good! <Merryk> [6/7 @ 23:40] (0/0)

Bilbo's answer <Daughter of Nienna> [6/7 @ 18:52] (0/0)
The approaching goblins. <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 15:02] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: #1 - What of the Arkenstone of Thrain? <Altaira> [6/7 @ 12:59] (10/19)

Thorin is not getting much help <nerdanel_50> [6/9 @ 21:26] (0/0)
Thorin has my sympathy. <Atlas> [6/8 @ 10:34] (0/0)
Rule One for the stubborn: <Curious> [6/8 @ 6:08] (1/3)

Could they? <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 11:45] (1/2)

Bombur does. <Curious> [6/8 @ 12:49] (1/1)

Thanks, maybe.. <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 13:57] (0/0)

A quick thought or two... <NZ Strider> [6/8 @ 4:02] (1/2)

Great points both. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 11:49] (1/1)

And I'd like to point out... <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 14:26] (0/0)

sense of betrayal <Daughter of Nienna> [6/7 @ 18:29] (0/0)
The elvenking was prescient... <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 18:14] (1/2)

Bilbo most likely knew... <Daughter of Nienna> [6/7 @ 18:54] (1/1)

. . . by returning to the dwarves (I meant to add) (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/8 @ 15:14] (0/0)

No hobbit throwing, please. <Kimi> [6/7 @ 17:33] (1/1)

I think we're supposed to <Merryk> [6/7 @ 23:26] (0/0)

A plague on Dwarves and their stiff necks! <Ceorl> [6/7 @ 16:06] (0/0)
Knowing what we know <Bythedar> [6/7 @ 15:38] (1/1)

I find it amazing too <Altaira> [6/7 @ 23:24] (0/0)

Would Thorin get off in court? <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 15:15] (0/0)

The Clouds Burst: Introduction <Altaira> [6/7 @ 12:55] (1/2)

Altaira... <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 15:05] (1/1)

Thanks! <Altaira> [6/7 @ 16:17] (0/0)

** Secondary book discussion: sign-up thread <Altaira> [6/7 @ 12:46] (8/21)

Smith 3 *she says while on vacation* (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/9 @ 9:21] (0/0)
Smith 2 for me (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [6/8 @ 18:06] (0/0)
"Farmer Giles" <squire > [6/8 @ 17:51] (0/0)
"Farmer Giles" <Kimi> [6/8 @ 16:26] (0/0)
Hmm, do I detect a lack of interest? <Curious> [6/8 @ 11:17] (1/9)

The Sil just seems like a lot already <Lúthien_Rising> [6/8 @ 11:40] (1/8)

How does everyone else feel? <Curious> [6/8 @ 13:24] (4/7)

I want to do them! <Menelwyn> [6/8 @ 15:43] (0/0)
Let's start it and see how it goes. <NZ Strider> [6/8 @ 15:25] (2/2)

what good suggestions! <Menelwyn> [6/8 @ 15:46] (0/0)
Sounds good. <Curious> [6/8 @ 15:39] (0/0)

maybe this thread is getting missed because it is under the chapter discussion. <Daughter of Nienna> [6/8 @ 15:08] (1/1)

I believe drogo_drogo <Altaira> [6/8 @ 16:06] (0/0)

I would love to participate! <Daughter of Nienna> [6/8 @ 15:00] (0/0)

Book of Lost Tales I and II <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 1:54] (1/1)

huh? (No Text) <squire > [6/8 @ 17:47] (0/0)

Hmm... If you'd like, I can do the discussion <NZ Strider> [6/7 @ 18:45] (1/3)

Well <Altaira> [6/8 @ 16:30] (1/2)

Okay; I'll do "Leaf by Niggle" then... <NZ Strider> [6/9 @ 3:10] (1/1)

Sounds good, NZ <Altaira> [6/9 @ 21:18] (0/0)

Smith of Wooton Major Discussion 1 <Curious> [6/7 @ 13:41] (0/0)

Confusion on Arwen's immortality!?!? <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/6 @ 21:49] (3/14)

Yes she does <PhantomS> [6/7 @ 12:20] (0/0)
If you also want some back-up try..... <Cry of the Nazgul> [6/7 @ 0:16] (0/0)
To make a looooong story short... <Azree> [6/6 @ 23:00] (4/11)

*high fives*wow... that was great (No Text) <Amycakes> [6/8 @ 2:26] (0/0)
*bravo* excellent explanation! (No Text) <Delenn> [6/7 @ 14:25] (0/0)
Thanks! I've been a wee bit confused on that point as well. (No Text) <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/6 @ 23:52] (0/0)
WOW---thank you--great explanation. <FrodoloveIs> [6/6 @ 23:20] (1/7)

Arwen and Aragorn's story... <Nimrodel > [6/7 @ 0:02] (2/6)

I thought I had caught that -- must have skimmed fast (No Text) <FrodoloveIs> [6/7 @ 19:51] (0/0)
Very good but very sad <Ioreth's sister> [6/7 @ 8:09] (1/4)

Evenstar <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/7 @ 13:55] (2/3)

In the book Evenstar is part of Arwen's name <linkinparkelf> [6/8 @ 3:01] (0/0)
In the film the Evenstar pendant... <Baggins Babe> [6/7 @ 14:01] (1/1)

Also, don't forget, in the book... <Black Cat in Bree> [6/8 @ 0:28] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night Afterthought: Don't be hasty <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 15:09] (6/9)

Slightly OT (but not THAT much) Humor <notlost> [6/6 @ 22:14] (2/2)

That could be said of mixing Tony Soprano and Michel Foucault <drogo_drogo> [6/7 @ 8:20] (0/0)
oh my! Thats one of the funnier things I've heard since <hatster> [6/6 @ 23:13] (0/0)

It reflects Tolkien's own ambivalence. <Curious> [6/6 @ 22:08] (0/0)
Even when Bilbo does "choose a side" <Merryk> [6/6 @ 18:57] (0/0)
Very good conneciton <Vironwe> [6/6 @ 18:51] (0/0)
Hoom Hoom, little Bur-Bard-rum <drogo_drogo> [6/6 @ 18:12] (1/1)

Oh, c'mon! <notlost> [6/6 @ 21:44] (0/0)

Interesting Observation . . . thanks! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/6 @ 17:25] (0/0)

Cirith Ungol "Watchers" <river-tawe-dweller> [6/6 @ 13:01] (3/7)

The Ardan bestiary <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 1:53] (0/0)
To add a bit to what Nerdanel says: <NZ Strider> [6/6 @ 16:51] (1/4)

How did Sauron make the trolls <Strider -(Ranger)-> [6/6 @ 18:23] (2/3)

Sauron in the book made the Uruk-hai <drogo_drogo> [6/7 @ 8:32] (0/0)
In <Ossë> [6/6 @ 19:58] (1/1)

"Hey Sauron, your trolls stink! Watch this" <Penthe> [6/6 @ 23:39] (0/0)

Some thoughts <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 13:37] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night: Summary <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 12:42] (14/17)

Thanks...great job (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/8 @ 3:15] (0/0)
Thanks Ner, good job, good summary. <Arquen> [6/7 @ 16:06] (0/0)
Nicely put. Thanks! <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 15:36] (0/0)
Wonderful job! <Altaira> [6/7 @ 1:00] (0/0)
"water proof, not iron clad" <Merryk> [6/6 @ 23:37] (0/0)
Thanks, nerdanel <Entmaiden> [6/6 @ 22:56] (0/0)
Thank you, great job! (No Text) <Curious> [6/6 @ 22:01] (0/0)
Great job, Nerdanel! <Kimi> [6/6 @ 20:48] (0/0)
Thanks, Nerdanel. Great summary, too. (No Text) <Penthe> [6/6 @ 19:31] (0/0)
Thanks for a great week <drogo_drogo> [6/6 @ 18:05] (0/0)
Thanks, Nerdanel! (No Text) <NZ Strider> [6/6 @ 16:40] (0/0)
Thanks for an interesting week! (No Text) <lucia> [6/6 @ 14:29] (1/2)

psst...Nerdanel <lucia> [6/6 @ 14:32] (1/1)

"fancrone reconaissance!" LOL <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 15:14] (0/0)

Mahalo Nui Loa! <Daughter of Nienna> [6/6 @ 14:05] (1/1)

Smaug Gallery <Daughter of Nienna> [6/9 @ 19:05] (0/0)

thanks nerdanel! Good week <hatster> [6/6 @ 13:18] (0/0)

Observation on Elvish lands-Lorien--Valinor <FrodoloveIs> [6/6 @ 12:32] (3/14)

The natural thing <Beren IV> [6/8 @ 0:51] (0/0)
THANK YOU ALL--such great insights and <FrodoloveIs> [6/7 @ 19:58] (0/0)
A very good observation <Larner> [6/6 @ 16:17] (1/11)

I think it would be the other way around <lucia> [6/6 @ 16:37] (3/10)

In my fondest imaginings... <Baggins Babe> [6/7 @ 3:11] (0/0)
I choose to think <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 21:48] (1/1)

:) (No Text) <FrodoloveIs> [6/6 @ 23:10] (0/0)

That is how I was taking it. But what about the "visible" <FrodoloveIs> [6/6 @ 16:52] (2/6)

In FOTR, <Larner> [6/7 @ 4:02] (4/4)

From FOTR, p. 235 <Larner> [6/8 @ 18:17] (0/0)
There was also a mention that he was becoming his old self. <FrodoloveIs> [6/7 @ 19:57] (0/0)
interesting... <an seileachan> [6/7 @ 10:22] (0/0)
You don't suppose the Valar have the power to <hartk> [6/7 @ 9:55] (0/0)

Larner--what is a "spirit of light"? (No Text) <FrodoloveIs> [6/6 @ 20:39] (0/0)

reading room index has been updated (No Text - Link Inside) <hatster> [6/6 @ 9:40] (9/17)

We are... <Arquen> [6/7 @ 17:53] (0/0)
You're worth your weight in <Altaira> [6/7 @ 1:17] (1/5)

Uranium? Plutonium? <N.E. Brigand> [6/7 @ 14:46] (1/4)

:-) the strange economy of compliments around here <hatster> [6/7 @ 16:54] (2/3)

Okay then... really *really* heavy gems (No Text) <Altaira> [6/7 @ 22:50] (0/0)
A pearl of great price, then. <Kimi> [6/7 @ 17:07] (1/1)

awwww shucks--Thanks to all for being so kind <hatster> [6/7 @ 18:13] (0/0)

Once again.... <notlost> [6/6 @ 21:46] (0/0)
You are a gem among hatsters! Thank you! (No Text) <Kimi> [6/6 @ 20:13] (0/0)
Good Heavens! I am amazed and grateful. (No Text) <Penthe> [6/6 @ 19:36] (0/0)
Thanks, for this, hatster <Entmaiden> [6/6 @ 19:26] (0/0)
Mahalo Nui Loa! <Daughter of Nienna> [6/6 @ 13:52] (0/0)
Thank you very much, hatster! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 12:46] (0/0)
thanks for all the hard work you've put into this! <drogo_drogo> [6/6 @ 11:40] (2/3)

nah, I figure you folks need some reason to <hatster> [6/6 @ 13:11] (0/0)
How about a fourteenth share of the profits? (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/6 @ 12:45] (1/1)

something tells me that may be a <hatster> [6/6 @ 14:20] (0/0)

Where were the rest of the Nazgul? <Indy3> [6/5 @ 17:13] (2/8)

one answered the alarm at Cirith Ungol <RurouniKJS> [6/7 @ 10:07] (0/0)
The war <Ossë> [6/5 @ 21:22] (1/6)

I always assumed <Inferno> [6/5 @ 23:24] (2/5)

Oh yeah... <Ossë> [6/6 @ 6:43] (1/3)

Again, movie poison. <Pukel-man> [6/6 @ 9:39] (2/2)

If you think it through... <Nimrodel > [6/7 @ 0:10] (0/0)
"five birdlike forms" <Ossë> [6/6 @ 10:08] (0/0)

Yes, weren't they... <Nimrodel > [6/6 @ 0:15] (0/0)

just a quick question how were the black gets broken by the lat alliance (No Text) <mop> [6/5 @ 7:07] (1/10)

The Battle of Dagorlad and War of the Last Alliance <drogo_drogo> [6/5 @ 8:09] (1/9)

Actually, <Inferno> [6/5 @ 12:12] (1/8)

it may not have been THE Black Gate <hatster> [6/5 @ 12:44] (2/7)

Thanks for saving some of my bruised ego :-) <drogo_drogo> [6/6 @ 11:35] (0/0)
I would argue <Inferno> [6/5 @ 12:52] (1/5)

LOL very odd that somehow the word "gate" disappeared from my post (No Text) <hatster> [6/5 @ 13:37] (3/4)

Yes, I noticed that. <Inferno> [6/5 @ 23:17] (0/0)
OT: this has happened to me...did you <an seileachan> [6/5 @ 17:05] (1/1)

I may have tried to put the <hatster> [6/5 @ 17:32] (0/0)

Inferno's arm has grown long... <N.E. Brigand> [6/5 @ 15:56] (0/0)

"Tolkien's Ring" <helmsdeep-archer> [6/4 @ 23:07] (3/3)

The Ring <Beren IV> [6/5 @ 15:26] (0/0)
Lots of Stuff <Vironwe> [6/5 @ 15:18] (0/0)
sigfried.. <rfb> [6/5 @ 0:15] (0/0)

LOTR and D&D <helmsdeep-archer> [6/4 @ 20:07] (1/1)

Here's your answer: (No Text - Link Inside) <Curious> [6/4 @ 20:16] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #10: Open discussion <nerdanel_50> [6/4 @ 16:45] (2/12)

question <Daughter of Nienna> [6/5 @ 21:30] (1/1)

Made for a elf-princeling, IIRC. <N.E. Brigand> [6/5 @ 21:41] (0/0)

Note the contrast with Boromir in LotR: <Curious> [6/4 @ 20:15] (2/9)

Good one... do you think... <Golfimbul> [6/5 @ 2:40] (0/0)
Good catch--but what does it mean? <nerdanel_50> [6/4 @ 21:12] (1/7)

Again, that Bilbo is not <Curious> [6/5 @ 0:33] (1/6)

hmmmmm........... you seem to have a <Galadriel1a> [6/5 @ 17:07] (1/5)

? (No Text) <Curious> [6/5 @ 18:00] (1/4)

just a joke I noticed that <Galadriel1a> [6/5 @ 19:03] (2/3)

I think many of us who read the book before seeing the movie <Entmaiden> [6/6 @ 23:06] (1/1)

well, I read the book first time 25 year ago and <Galadriel1a> [6/7 @ 3:54] (0/0)

nah.. Curious just enjoys a scrap (No Text) <hatster> [6/5 @ 19:35] (0/0)

Some not-very-deep thoughts on Tolkien and Homer <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/4 @ 15:52] (5/9)

so... <notlost> [6/6 @ 22:00] (1/1)

well... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/7 @ 9:38] (0/0)

Psst, Karen, I don't believe <NZ Strider> [6/5 @ 6:42] (1/1)

Thanks! <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/6 @ 15:18] (0/0)

Another thought, after seeing RotK again. <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/5 @ 3:55] (0/0)
Birds and birds <PhantomS> [6/4 @ 23:34] (0/0)
Good for you! <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 17:54] (1/2)

The Iliad is terrific. <erather> [6/4 @ 19:58] (1/1)

A great anti-war novel <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/5 @ 3:59] (0/0)

Types of Wizards <helmsdeep-archer> [6/4 @ 15:29] (3/3)

me too <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/6 @ 21:58] (0/0)
It's a ranking system <Beren IV> [6/5 @ 15:17] (0/0)
Just the color of their robes... <hartk> [6/4 @ 15:58] (0/0)

Boromir + Faramir <atheist> [6/4 @ 13:53] (2/3)

Here is the only other stuff on our guys that Tolkien ever wrote: <squire > [6/4 @ 23:43] (1/1)

well he did also mention Faramir in his letters <hatster> [6/5 @ 19:42] (0/0)

Check out the Appendix of LOTR <hartk> [6/4 @ 14:03] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #9: A Thief in the Night <nerdanel_50> [6/4 @ 10:04] (7/16)

more wordplay <Penthe> [6/4 @ 23:37] (0/0)
Further questions on the title <nerdanel_50> [6/4 @ 20:48] (3/4)

Jesus compared himself to a thief: <Golfimbul> [6/5 @ 2:35] (0/0)
from Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 22:52] (1/1)

If I knew what I thought I would tell you. (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/5 @ 0:15] (0/0)

Raffles came up... <N.E. Brigand> [6/4 @ 22:32] (0/0)

the surprise factor <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 19:16] (0/0)
Irony. <Curious> [6/4 @ 16:13] (0/0)
Some stolen links <nerdanel_50> [6/4 @ 13:04] (0/0)
I'd rather call it "The Maltese Arkenstone" <drogo_drogo> [6/4 @ 11:58] (1/5)

The stuff dreams are made of -- <NZ Strider> [6/4 @ 20:58] (2/4)

We could get very 80s and call it "Romancing the Arken-Stone" (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [6/5 @ 7:56] (0/0)
McGuffin (please forgive spelling) <Penthe> [6/4 @ 23:30] (1/2)

I don't think the Arkenstone is a McGuffin <Entmaiden> [6/6 @ 21:57] (1/1)

Yes, the treasure could be <Penthe> [6/6 @ 23:36] (0/0)

or f. a common expression :) <Golfimbul> [6/4 @ 11:33] (0/0)

Two book questions <Druid13> [6/4 @ 8:37] (16/23)

I can't separate them <Larner> [6/7 @ 4:23] (0/0)
Men's Story line <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/6 @ 21:26] (0/0)
As the good professor noted... <Nimrodel > [6/5 @ 22:43] (0/0)
I suppose I'm unable to get past the impressions <Orald> [6/5 @ 15:23] (0/0)
Love them all <eowyn_rohan> [6/4 @ 21:59] (0/0)
my politically correct, but true nonetheless, answer <an seileachan> [6/4 @ 20:29] (1/1)

window on the WEST, I meant!! sheesh (No Text) <an seileachan> [6/4 @ 20:33] (0/0)

The Two Towers. <RosieLass> [6/4 @ 19:02] (0/0)
Two Towers. <RurouniKJS> [6/4 @ 17:36] (1/1)

*chuckles* The dominant force in our lives? (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 19:32] (0/0)

Book 1 and Book 6 <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/4 @ 16:53] (0/0)
All three, for different reasons <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [6/4 @ 16:29] (0/0)
whichever I happen to be reading at the moment :-) (No Text) <hatster> [6/4 @ 16:27] (1/1)

GMTA! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/4 @ 16:46] (0/0)

Summer and Winter <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 16:23] (3/3)

Hmmm very good... <Druid13> [6/6 @ 9:59] (0/0)
Nice! <Vironwe> [6/5 @ 15:48] (0/0)
Beautiful... <Delyth> [6/5 @ 5:41] (0/0)

*shocked* you want me to specify!!!??? :) <elvendala> [6/4 @ 15:22] (0/0)
RotK, definitely. <erather> [6/4 @ 14:16] (0/0)
I liked the Two Towers better. <Beren IV> [6/4 @ 14:14] (1/1)

for some reason that... <Druid13> [6/4 @ 15:25] (0/0)

I've always said... <Laureanna> [6/4 @ 13:01] (0/0)

Into the West should have been played when Frodo is leaving...I always cry when I hear it (No Text) <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/3 @ 21:29] (1/2)

Actually it does <Man of Rohan> [6/4 @ 0:28] (1/1)

Good topic for Movie Board. :) (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/4 @ 11:35] (0/0)

Sauron <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/3 @ 20:43] (1/4)

Psst, Elf Maiden of Lorien... <erather> [6/3 @ 21:26] (1/3)

What do I change them to? I can't see my writing!! <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/3 @ 21:49] (1/2)

click on the Register link <Arevanye> [6/3 @ 21:57] (1/1)

Thank You <Elf Maiden of Lorien> [6/6 @ 20:33] (0/0)

Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are each the "Achilles" of their respective races. Discuss. (No Text) <Gerontius> [6/3 @ 18:31] (11/38)

No,no not at all. <PhantomS> [6/4 @ 23:46] (0/0)
Good heavens, no <Ioreth's sister> [6/4 @ 21:52] (0/0)
Boromir is Achilles <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/4 @ 15:02] (0/0)
None of the above! <Laureanna> [6/4 @ 13:13] (0/0)
Hence the expressions: 'An Achille's Scruff', 'an Achille's Eyebrow'; and 'an Achille's Box'. <mendil> [6/4 @ 12:58] (0/0)
other candidates <drogo_drogo> [6/4 @ 7:52] (2/2)

I agree , Fëanor could be compared <Galadriel1a> [6/5 @ 17:39] (0/0)
Aragorn as Odysseus <Modtheow> [6/4 @ 10:48] (0/0)

Turin is my Achilles, an amoral fighting machine. (No Text) <Curious> [6/4 @ 4:03] (3/19)

The Achilles in the Iliad, by the way, <NZ Strider> [6/5 @ 6:15] (1/7)

How so? <Curious> [6/5 @ 14:39] (1/6)

Very quickly, <NZ Strider> [6/5 @ 16:30] (3/5)

You have a more charitable view <Curious> [6/6 @ 7:24] (0/0)
You touch a very interesting subjec <Galadriel1a> [6/5 @ 18:27] (0/0)
Wow. Why didn't "Troy"... <N.E. Brigand> [6/5 @ 17:02] (1/2)

If the Iliad isn't for you but you want to know the story, <Ataahua> [6/5 @ 22:28] (1/1)

Thanks. <N.E. Brigand> [6/5 @ 23:04] (0/0)

significance of amoral <notlost> [6/4 @ 11:50] (2/3)

Rhetoric as immoral <Stanislaus Bocian> [6/6 @ 8:05] (1/1)

I don't think.... <notlost> [6/6 @ 22:13] (0/0)

Rhetoric is not Turin's weapon. <Curious> [6/4 @ 19:43] (0/0)

Amoral? <Caleniel> [6/4 @ 4:58] (1/6)

I'm glad you like Turin. <Curious> [6/4 @ 6:27] (1/5)

I don't think my memory does Achilles justice <Caleniel> [6/4 @ 7:06] (1/4)

Well, <Curious> [6/4 @ 7:30] (1/3)

I would say that he has abandoned morality. <Pukel-man> [6/4 @ 12:29] (1/2)

Or Hercules. <Curious> [6/4 @ 13:39] (1/1)

I like Tulkas as Hercules. <Pukel-man> [6/5 @ 12:58] (0/0)

They all die from a wound to the ankle? ;) (No Text) <Inferno> [6/4 @ 2:38] (0/0)
Heroes and the common rabble <Beren IV> [6/4 @ 2:38] (0/0)
Aragorn is more like Hector <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 23:53] (3/6)

Faramir as Hector. Aragorn as Theseus. (No Text) <Curious> [6/4 @ 4:03] (2/3)

Faramir as Hector, Aragorn as Aeneas. <Pukel-man> [6/4 @ 12:38] (1/1)

Yes. That *is* better. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [6/5 @ 6:11] (0/0)

The black sails, eh? (No Text) <N.E. Brigand> [6/4 @ 12:32] (0/0)

That was one of my first thoughts <Gerontius> [6/4 @ 3:09] (0/0)
It's a good thing <Kimi> [6/4 @ 0:11] (0/0)

Is this a homework assignment? ;-) (No Text) <erather> [6/3 @ 19:14] (0/0)

does anyone knows why was given that number(3,7 and 9) of rings for each race? <mariana> [6/3 @ 16:30] (4/38)

They're all, in legend, magical numbers. <Rhiandra Took> [6/4 @ 20:11] (0/0)
*Bookmarks this page* <Entmaiden> [6/4 @ 9:28] (0/0)
19 rings for the elves, under the sky. <Curious> [6/3 @ 17:39] (2/20)

That's true, but.... <Alveric> [6/4 @ 4:19] (1/17)

The difference between men and dwarves <Curious> [6/4 @ 4:41] (4/16)

On the other hand, <Curious> [6/4 @ 8:01] (1/6)

Nice detail from Unfinished Tales <squire > [6/4 @ 8:38] (1/5)

Except <Curious> [6/4 @ 8:51] (1/4)

Interesting <squire > [6/4 @ 10:03] (1/3)

I base my theory <Curious> [6/4 @ 10:20] (1/2)

Which leads to Sauron's desire <Bythedar> [6/4 @ 10:47] (1/1)

The One Ring is different. <Curious> [6/4 @ 10:54] (0/0)

But was that a failure? <Caleniel> [6/4 @ 7:22] (2/6)

In Letter 154 <Curious> [6/4 @ 7:54] (1/4)

The curse of the elves <Caleniel> [6/4 @ 8:10] (1/3)

Good can come of evil, and <Curious> [6/4 @ 8:22] (1/2)

But evil acts... <Caleniel> [6/4 @ 8:48] (1/1)

Indeed, <Curious> [6/4 @ 11:43] (0/0)

If Lothlorien <Curious> [6/4 @ 7:42] (0/0)

That last sentence <Curious> [6/4 @ 6:19] (0/0)
Nenya seems expressly matched with Galadriel <Chip of Dale> [6/4 @ 6:00] (0/0)

psst Curious <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 18:27] (1/1)

Thank you. And <Curious> [6/4 @ 3:51] (0/0)

Population? <helmsdeep-archer> [6/3 @ 16:40] (2/14)

Raises another question though <Alveric> [6/4 @ 4:43] (1/1)

Interesting questions. <N.E. Brigand> [6/4 @ 21:28] (0/0)

about the rings <mariana> [6/3 @ 17:03] (1/11)

The 3 and 7 are easy. <Inferno> [6/3 @ 17:26] (3/10)

Silmarils <Ransom> [6/3 @ 18:18] (0/0)
The Havens are part of Lindon. <Curious> [6/3 @ 17:45] (2/2)

I think you are right about Galadriel <Alveric> [6/4 @ 5:06] (0/0)
Forlindon and Harlindon <Inferno> [6/3 @ 17:48] (0/0)

But that's combining the books and the movies ;-) <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 17:35] (1/5)

Not entirely <Inferno> [6/3 @ 17:44] (2/4)

I'm still skeptical. <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 18:01] (1/1)

about the question <mariana> [6/3 @ 21:00] (0/0)

Not the whole verse. <Curious> [6/3 @ 17:46] (1/1)

Agreed. The rest... <N.E. Brigand> [6/3 @ 20:54] (0/0)

Reminder: Live Chat with Prof. Michael Drout, noon ET today (No Text - Link Inside) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 11:53] (4/15)

Drout on new publications (not as absurdly long) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 13:38] (0/0)
Drout on Tolkien, Tolkien scholarship and HoME (longer) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 13:36] (0/0)
Drout on Peter Jackson's films (long) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 13:33] (2/4)

On the whole I agree with him on characters <drogo_drogo> [6/4 @ 8:00] (0/0)
"Denethor goes insane when Sauron gets Frodo’s mail coat and Sam’s sword" <hartk> [6/3 @ 16:12] (1/2)

Maybe not quite? <erather> [6/3 @ 16:44] (1/1)

Agreed. Sam sees Shagrat... <N.E. Brigand> [6/3 @ 20:16] (0/0)

A lot of fun to follow! <squire > [6/3 @ 12:35] (2/7)

the question from John Squire <Arevanye> [6/3 @ 13:24] (1/4)

*waves happily from colloqium stage* (No Text) <squire > [6/3 @ 13:36] (3/3)

Distinguished Professor from TORn U....? <HobbitHearted> [6/3 @ 14:46] (0/0)
*claps appreciatively* (No Text) <Arevanye> [6/3 @ 14:22] (0/0)
thought so! <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 13:37] (0/0)

Indeed! I'm saving some of the most interesting Q&As <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 12:37] (1/1)

Thank you for posting these, they were great! (No Text) <erather> [6/3 @ 21:36] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #8: He's Back <nerdanel_50> [6/3 @ 11:39] (10/17)

The ultimate team player <Entmaiden> [6/6 @ 23:02] (0/0)
How did Gandalf know what Bilbo <Curious> [6/4 @ 6:35] (1/1)

I always thought that Gandalf had been eavesdropping (No Text) <Entmaiden> [6/6 @ 22:59] (0/0)

Where HAVE you been? What HAVE you been doing? <Daughter of Nienna> [6/4 @ 4:30] (0/0)
Simple questions have already been given simple answers (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/4 @ 2:33] (0/0)
"Dwarves in general" <Kimi> [6/4 @ 0:32] (2/2)

wonderful points and beautifully said (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/4 @ 13:09] (0/0)
Very nice point, Kimi. <Penthe> [6/4 @ 0:48] (0/0)

Bilbo & the Elvenking <Penthe> [6/3 @ 23:30] (0/0)
do butlers burgle power? <hatster> [6/3 @ 20:19] (2/2)

Nice synthesis, H. (No Text) <Arquen> [6/5 @ 16:07] (0/0)
Interesting.... <Takeo> [6/4 @ 10:58] (0/0)

A thought... (Regulus) <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 17:15] (2/2)

This is my favorite passage in the entire book <Takeo> [6/4 @ 11:15] (0/0)
Thank you! <Kimi> [6/3 @ 20:34] (0/0)

Questions galore! <Bythedar> [6/3 @ 14:33] (0/0)
Gandalf's plan <Golfimbul> [6/3 @ 12:11] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #7: Belt and Suspenders? <nerdanel_50> [6/3 @ 11:34] (7/23)

"I am myself indifferent honest." <Atlas> [6/4 @ 4:20] (0/0)
Tolkien clearly approved of Bilbo. <Curious> [6/4 @ 4:18] (1/5)

Addendum -- the conventional option. <Curious> [6/4 @ 5:59] (2/4)

But if Bilbo had stuck... <N.E. Brigand> [6/4 @ 12:52] (1/2)

Possibly. <Curious> [6/4 @ 13:33] (1/1)

And opened a way for dialogue <Penthe> [6/4 @ 18:09] (0/0)

Thanks, outstanding thoughts there. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/4 @ 11:23] (0/0)

Quite simple <Beren IV> [6/4 @ 2:26] (0/0)
The Arkenstone by Ted Nasmith (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/4 @ 0:46] (0/0)
a burglar or a thief <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 19:20] (1/2)

Interesting distinction <nerdanel_50> [6/3 @ 19:43] (1/1)

the word burglar seems to always seems to <hatster> [6/3 @ 20:24] (0/0)

Quick answers <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 16:42] (1/9)

my slow self is grateful for your quick answers <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 18:45] (1/8)

Bilbo's self-interest <Penthe> [6/3 @ 23:18] (2/7)

Do you think he could have snuck off? <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 1:14] (2/3)

Bilbo and the Arkenstone <Alveric> [6/4 @ 5:17] (0/0)
Bilbo runs away? <Penthe> [6/4 @ 2:39] (1/1)

so you are both making the case that <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 12:33] (0/0)

Just imagine if <Kimi> [6/4 @ 0:14] (2/2)

Agreed, <lucia> [6/4 @ 14:43] (0/0)
*shudder* (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/4 @ 1:18] (0/0)

Even playing field <Bythedar> [6/3 @ 13:09] (0/0)

tolkien quote needed <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/3 @ 11:32] (1/23)

This might be the one: Letter #181 <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 12:21] (1/22)

that's it, thanks.... hmmm.... while we're at it... <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/3 @ 12:34] (2/21)

Another message board??? <Arevanye> [6/3 @ 14:50] (1/17)

teehee <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/3 @ 15:16] (3/16)

The interesting thing about atheists, <Curious> [6/4 @ 10:34] (2/10)

also <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/4 @ 13:58] (0/0)
oooohhh <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/4 @ 13:56] (1/8)

You believe *nothing*? <Curious> [6/4 @ 15:50] (2/7)

semantics <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/4 @ 20:53] (1/1)

I still think <Curious> [6/5 @ 14:43] (0/0)

the problem when Truth gets written in upper case <hatster> [6/4 @ 16:08] (1/4)

See, now, <Curious> [6/4 @ 17:19] (3/3)

before this disappears (or maybe after) <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/7 @ 9:23] (0/0)
LOL, thats exactly how I feel when you and squire disagree : ) (No Text) <lucia> [6/5 @ 15:48] (0/0)
frightening!...we agree :-) (No Text) <hatster> [6/4 @ 20:12] (0/0)

looks like you managed to shut them all up :-) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/3 @ 16:28] (0/0)
wow, Gum-ishi <Arevanye> [6/3 @ 15:32] (1/3)

cool <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/3 @ 15:41] (2/2)

We do lead a sheltered life here on TORn <Arevanye> [6/4 @ 10:16] (0/0)
Two general impressions: <Caleniel> [6/4 @ 10:00] (0/0)

This? <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 12:43] (1/2)

thank you so very very much (No Text) <Gûm-ishi Ashi Gurum> [6/3 @ 12:47] (1/1)

At your service *bow* (No Text) <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 12:48] (0/0)

looking at the enemy's movements (very long post) <Gentle One> [6/3 @ 8:05] (4/6)

It is quite clear that <Beren IV> [6/4 @ 2:17] (1/1)

Do you have a quote? <N.E. Brigand> [6/4 @ 12:56] (0/0)

A lot to process. <N.E. Brigand> [6/3 @ 20:46] (0/0)
9 riders 9 fingers! <Viggolicious Drooler> [6/3 @ 16:02] (1/1)

And Frodo has nine fingers at the end. <hartk> [6/3 @ 16:17] (0/0)

Wow, Gentle One <squire > [6/3 @ 13:34] (0/0)

Dwarves and Narsil <Villordsutch> [6/2 @ 16:42] (4/26)

Were there Dwarven runes on Narsil? <Orald> [6/5 @ 15:12] (0/0)
As ;long as we're asking dumb questions <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 20:04] (1/7)

I agree, it's more complicated. Here's another view. <erather> [6/2 @ 20:43] (1/6)

I think that's about it. <Atlas> [6/2 @ 21:13] (1/5)

What little I know. <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 11:55] (1/4)

of course, there is no lore on Elven metallurgy that survives to this age. <hartk> [6/3 @ 12:04] (1/3)

Do you even suppose that non-Elves are even *capable* of the Elvish Arts, even if they knew how? (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/4 @ 2:11] (1/2)

Probably not. (No Text) <Curious> [6/4 @ 4:43] (1/1)

it is a romantic and tragic thought that... <hartk> [6/4 @ 11:10] (0/0)

Possibly dumb question... <erather> [6/2 @ 19:58] (1/6)

I think Narsil <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 3:59] (1/5)

Interesting idea. Do two pieces make "shards"? <squire > [6/3 @ 11:04] (2/4)

A tiny point about shards <Arwen's daughter> [6/3 @ 14:50] (0/0)
Typically they bend. <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 12:18] (1/2)

Sauron didn't step on it, though. <Inferno> [6/3 @ 12:54] (1/1)

Argh! Movie 'poisoning'! ;-) <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 13:02] (0/0)

Narsil was forged by the dwarf Telchar <squire > [6/2 @ 17:26] (3/9)

Interestingly, in the Grey Annals, <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 4:09] (1/1)

And Telchar incredibly long-lived, <Curious> [6/3 @ 15:43] (0/0)

I'd only add. <Hama of Rohan> [6/2 @ 18:23] (2/4)

Depends on what sort <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 3:57] (1/1)

But aren't runes notable? <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 11:36] (0/0)

psst, Hama <linkinparkelf> [6/2 @ 23:26] (1/1)

A quirk. <Hama of Rohan> [6/3 @ 12:07] (0/0)

It quite likely <Inferno> [6/2 @ 17:58] (1/1)

Thanks to all <Villordsutch> [6/3 @ 5:04] (0/0)

Anglo Saxon attitudes at Theoden’s funeral? <Golfimbul> [6/2 @ 14:21] (5/12)

Probably. Rohan was supposed to be similar to Anglo-Saxton areas... <Morwilwarin> [6/2 @ 19:23] (0/0)
Elton John . . . <Pukel-man> [6/2 @ 16:57] (2/2)

Yes, I was moved by that too. (No Text) <Golfimbul> [6/3 @ 2:41] (0/0)
perhaps... and then, perhaps not <squire > [6/2 @ 17:50] (0/0)

I have some vauge memories <IBo> [6/2 @ 16:11] (1/2)

The song "The Minstrel Boy" <Golfimbul> [6/3 @ 2:39] (1/1)

Ah, I have fond memories of that song <Orald> [6/3 @ 14:27] (0/0)

Maybe not sacrifice. <Orm Irian> [6/2 @ 15:26] (1/2)

I find that a depressing thought... <CelebornsMirror> [6/2 @ 15:36] (1/1)

writers block vs honoring the dead <Bythedar> [6/2 @ 16:01] (0/0)

A poignant image, but not enough information <erather> [6/2 @ 15:03] (1/1)

I'm sure he didn't starve.... <Golfimbul> [6/2 @ 15:12] (0/0)

**Secondary book discussion details <Altaira> [6/2 @ 14:05] (4/4)

That looks really good. Looking forward to it! (No Text) <Kimi> [6/2 @ 20:48] (0/0)
Very nice! Looking forward to it. (No Text) <N.E. Brigand> [6/2 @ 19:59] (0/0)
great organization! <drogo_drogo> [6/2 @ 18:17] (0/0)
Thanks, Altaira, for all your work. <NZ Strider> [6/2 @ 16:21] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #6: What Else Has It Got In Its Pocketses? <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 12:14] (7/12)

Yes, yes, all good answers, but <nerdanel_50> [6/3 @ 2:44] (3/5)

and Arquen answers: <Arquen> [6/3 @ 17:43] (2/2)

We should know to trust <Curious> [6/4 @ 12:59] (0/0)
Thanks, Arquen. <Kimi> [6/3 @ 20:13] (0/0)

Oak gall ink <Kimi> [6/3 @ 7:26] (0/0)
I'm not Arquen... <Atlas> [6/3 @ 4:11] (0/0)

Again, 'been said (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/3 @ 2:14] (0/0)
It's not personal. It's business. <Atlas> [6/3 @ 1:47] (0/0)
The Baggins side to the fore! <Kimi> [6/2 @ 20:45] (0/0)
and now for something completely different <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 19:11] (0/0)
a few more answers <drogo_drogo> [6/2 @ 18:14] (0/0)
Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [6/2 @ 17:05] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #5: The Dwarves' Hobbit <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 12:12] (8/9)

its why Gandalf chose Bilbo <Daughter of Nienna> [6/3 @ 2:59] (0/0)
It has been said (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/3 @ 2:11] (0/0)
"Hast thou appealed unto Bard? unto Bard shalt thou go." <Atlas> [6/3 @ 1:12] (0/0)
"That queer little creature" <Kimi> [6/2 @ 20:21] (0/0)
some quick answers <drogo_drogo> [6/2 @ 18:10] (1/1)

How does Bard know the info came from Bilbo? (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 19:13] (0/0)

Quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [6/2 @ 16:52] (0/0)
This might be a mistake <Golfimbul> [6/2 @ 14:10] (0/0)
Mr Baggins if you please <Bythedar> [6/2 @ 12:44] (0/0)

The movie trilogy - a "good fairy story"? <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 4:25] (10/39)

For me, due both to the nature of cinema, <Orald> [6/3 @ 10:18] (2/8)

Orald, good to see you again! <NZ Strider> [6/3 @ 17:21] (1/1)

Well, you see... <Orald> [6/3 @ 22:07] (0/0)

for instance? <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 10:26] (1/5)

It's not necessarily about reasons. <Orald> [6/3 @ 10:39] (3/4)

Visual idiom of contemporary authors? <Chip of Dale> [6/4 @ 2:16] (0/0)
It depends on the book. <Curious> [6/3 @ 17:49] (1/1)

No doubt. Though, horrifically, I must admit <Orald> [6/3 @ 22:19] (0/0)

beautifully put <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 11:59] (0/0)

Yes, but <Merryk> [6/2 @ 23:44] (0/0)
yes, because <an seileachan> [6/2 @ 22:45] (0/0)
Here is yet another variation... <lucia> [6/2 @ 20:17] (0/0)
lasting impact <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 17:38] (1/2)

The Little Folk <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 19:21] (1/1)

one of the few kisses they left in! :) (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 19:35] (0/0)

To everything, turn, turn turn... <Chip of Dale> [6/2 @ 13:11] (2/2)

*wipes eyes, clapping* (No Text) <Ascarwen> [6/3 @ 12:55] (0/0)
*copy, paste, sniff* Thanks for that :-) (No Text) <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 19:06] (0/0)

You are quite right . . . <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 12:35] (1/2)

Frodo's rescue <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 18:56] (1/1)

Oh, yes, I agree-- <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 19:18] (0/0)

Yes, yes, yes! <LilyFairbairn> [6/2 @ 11:14] (1/1)

What fantastically evocative words! <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 18:31] (0/0)

I sometimes envy the movie-first crowd, <Curious> [6/2 @ 11:07] (6/14)

...a tear in my eye... <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 19:51] (0/0)
It's a peculiar time we're living in <IBo> [6/2 @ 16:23] (0/0)
Nothing to envy, Curious <Arwenillumen> [6/2 @ 11:58] (0/0)
I've got to say.... <White Gull> [6/2 @ 11:56] (0/0)
I think you may have enjoyed FotR more <Azree> [6/2 @ 11:24] (1/8)

FOTR easiest to convert to movies, IMHO <Bythedar> [6/2 @ 11:32] (1/7)

Here ya go... On F-S online! (No Text - Link Inside) <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 19:42] (4/6)

Very nice, but... <Aunt Dora Baggins> [6/3 @ 13:41] (1/1)

Thanks, Aunt Dora, for reminding us <squire > [6/3 @ 14:10] (0/0)

Clip 'n' save... Thanks, Estelwyn! (No Text) <squire > [6/3 @ 11:33] (0/0)
and a trip down memory lane with it <hatster> [6/2 @ 21:11] (1/1)

What's a MUD? (No Text) <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 21:25] (0/0)

Thanks! (No Text) <Bythedar> [6/2 @ 19:46] (0/0)

You make a good point here <LilyFairbairn> [6/2 @ 11:22] (0/0)

Confession time: <Arevanye> [6/2 @ 9:17] (0/0)

** Roll Call for June discussion leaders <Altaira> [6/2 @ 1:20] (4/10)

sort of here <notlost> [6/4 @ 11:05] (0/0)
Present (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [6/2 @ 15:38] (0/0)
Tough month for calling roll, I guess! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 13:38] (0/0)
Hobbit <Moiratron> [6/2 @ 11:24] (1/6)

You can join in any discussion you like - <Azree> [6/2 @ 11:30] (1/5)

a question... <Moiratron> [6/2 @ 11:33] (1/4)

i like <squire > [6/2 @ 11:54] (3/3)

Their Ring tones?! LOL :-) (No Text) <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 19:57] (0/0)
*mods up* if I could!!! (No Text) <Lorien-lover> [6/2 @ 14:43] (0/0)
*snert* (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [6/2 @ 12:52] (0/0)

** Confirmation of Silmarillion Chapters <Altaira> [6/2 @ 0:41] (5/6)

I just saw this . . . Thank you so much Altaira (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/4 @ 0:29] (0/0)
Um.. <Hama of Rohan> [6/2 @ 18:47] (0/0)
I was too slow... <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 3:24] (1/1)

Hang on, Beren IV... <NZ Strider> [6/2 @ 16:18] (0/0)

Thanks for putting this together Altaira (No Text) <Estelwyn> [6/2 @ 2:43] (0/0)
I'm really looking forward to this! <Kimi> [6/2 @ 1:00] (0/0)

Gandalf and the Witch King <CaptainoftheDunadain> [6/1 @ 23:03] (6/11)

Fear is not what Gandalf is feeling <squire > [6/2 @ 11:20] (1/1)

there is another kind of fear <PhantomS> [6/2 @ 14:17] (0/0)

My take <Bythedar> [6/2 @ 9:47] (0/0)
You underestimate the Nazgul <PhantomS> [6/2 @ 9:10] (0/0)
Scaling of power <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 3:22] (0/0)
"Just" a man... <Caleniel> [6/2 @ 3:18] (0/0)
Between Weathertop and the Gate <Merryk> [6/1 @ 23:34] (2/4)

battle between Gandalf & Witch King <Penthe> [6/1 @ 23:55] (0/0)
what? <CaptainoftheDunadain> [6/1 @ 23:36] (2/2)

*whew* found it! Letter #210 <Merryk> [6/2 @ 0:27] (0/0)
The Istari were forbidden to match might with might... <RurouniKJS> [6/1 @ 23:53] (0/0)

would anyone like to discuss letter #131? <an seileachan> [6/1 @ 21:34] (7/14)

Tolkien Letter # 131 (No Text - Link Inside) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/4 @ 0:27] (0/0)
My question is: Where is the rest of it? <Ascarwen> [6/3 @ 13:01] (0/0)
some striking passages from the letter <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 14:02] (2/4)

of hobbits and Galadriel <an seileachan> [6/3 @ 7:08] (0/0)
The Void <Daughter of Nienna> [6/3 @ 2:15] (1/2)

Ah! Thanks for that. <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 2:30] (1/1)

most welcome! (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/3 @ 3:08] (0/0)

Tolkien the religious nut <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 3:18] (0/0)
yes, but can't now. Hope thread is still here tomorrow. (No Text) <lucia> [6/1 @ 22:29] (0/0)
For its primary purpose, the letter strikes me as <erather> [6/1 @ 22:20] (0/0)
"The chief hero" <Merryk> [6/1 @ 22:01] (1/3)

Sam, the successor to Bilbo <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 13:13] (2/2)

whoops - typos corrected here (I hope) <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/3 @ 10:19] (0/0)
there is a quote about the different kinds of heroes... <an seileachan> [6/3 @ 6:44] (0/0)

Monarchy in Middle Earth <well he's back> [6/1 @ 17:09] (6/25)

The Shire is contemporary, the rest <Curious> [6/2 @ 16:00] (1/3)

I don't think it's quite correct... <squire > [6/2 @ 16:35] (2/2)

They literally affirm his claim: <Curious> [6/3 @ 12:59] (0/0)
Is this a benign "divine right" theory of monarchy? <erather> [6/2 @ 21:42] (0/0)

Elven Constitutional Monarchy <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 3:08] (0/0)
Laketown was a democracy <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 1:17] (1/3)

Laketown would seem more like.. <squire > [6/2 @ 11:28] (2/2)

Tolkien is quasi-historical, <Curious> [6/3 @ 16:42] (0/0)
merchant princes? <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/2 @ 12:26] (0/0)

Monarchy vs Democracy <lucia> [6/1 @ 19:44] (5/8)

. . . and 'things that grow'! ; -) (No Text) <Daughter of Nienna> [6/3 @ 0:34] (0/0)
Wow... (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 3:01] (0/0)
Very well put! <Caleniel> [6/2 @ 2:49] (1/1)

Evil enemies <Penthe> [6/4 @ 5:24] (0/0)

*applause* on your letter debut (No Text) <Penthe> [6/1 @ 20:11] (1/1)

*smiles and rotates her palm in a queenly wave* (No Text) <lucia> [6/1 @ 20:58] (0/0)

The issue isn't "Monarchy vs Democracy" <Steph> [6/1 @ 19:53] (1/1)

Did you read the first poster's post? <lucia> [6/1 @ 19:57] (0/0)

Of course the shire is a Monarchy <Steph> [6/1 @ 18:33] (3/4)

The Shire is an English countryside <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 2:57] (0/0)
The Commonwealth <Penthe> [6/1 @ 19:18] (0/0)
when the king comes back <Linguilindale> [6/1 @ 18:56] (1/1)

Monarchy isn't really "government" <Steph> [6/1 @ 19:52] (0/0)

It doesn't bother me too much <Morwilwarin> [6/1 @ 17:18] (1/1)

Not at all <Senta> [6/1 @ 17:53] (0/0)

Other suggested readings on Mr Tolkien? <Bythedar> [6/1 @ 14:40] (1/9)

I asked this last week and here's the list I compiled <Lúthien_Rising> [6/1 @ 15:05] (3/8)

I was at the bookstore the other day. <RosieLass> [6/1 @ 18:52] (2/4)

books by TORn people <eowyn_rohan> [6/1 @ 20:51] (1/2)

Well, looky here! :) <RosieLass> [6/1 @ 22:10] (1/1)

Thanks a million RosieLass.. <eowyn_rohan> [6/2 @ 16:47] (0/0)

that would be interesting <Lúthien_Rising> [6/1 @ 19:11] (0/0)

the subtitle is... <an seileachan> [6/1 @ 17:25] (0/0)
Thanks, I knew it was on here somewhere, just couldnt look back. :) (No Text) <Bythedar> [6/1 @ 15:06] (1/1)

found the link, so you can see the comments (No Text - Link Inside) <Lúthien_Rising> [6/1 @ 19:14] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #4: Enough Rope <nerdanel_50> [6/1 @ 10:19] (7/7)

Give a man enough rope... <Atlas> [6/2 @ 2:54] (0/0)
It's been said. (No Text) <Beren IV> [6/2 @ 2:43] (0/0)
Playing dress up with my sparklies <lucia> [6/1 @ 18:49] (0/0)
watchmen <Daughter of Nienna> [6/1 @ 14:42] (0/0)
Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [6/1 @ 13:04] (0/0)
Sam... <N.E. Brigand> [6/1 @ 12:17] (0/0)
Busy dwarves and invisible Hobbits <Bythedar> [6/1 @ 10:26] (0/0)

A Thief in the Night #3: How much watch? <nerdanel_50> [6/1 @ 10:11] (9/15)

Remember that Bilbo is not Thorin's subject. <Curious> [6/3 @ 12:51] (0/0)
You better watch out... <Atlas> [6/2 @ 1:34] (0/0)
to sleep perchance to dream <Entwife Wandlimb> [6/1 @ 19:40] (2/2)

Psst Wanda <Estelwyn> [6/1 @ 20:11] (0/0)
To jump ahead a few pages-- <nerdanel_50> [6/1 @ 19:48] (0/0)

Sleepers wake! <Penthe> [6/1 @ 19:09] (1/1)

you're right about the green grass and Thorin... <Daughter of Nienna> [6/3 @ 0:07] (0/0)

I think he chose which watch <lucia> [6/1 @ 18:26] (0/0)
Just enough, thank you. <Kimi> [6/1 @ 16:45] (0/0)
the watch <Daughter of Nienna> [6/1 @ 14:13] (1/3)

here's the link--but do your own homework, OK? (No Text - Link Inside) <nerdanel_50> [6/1 @ 16:21] (1/2)

I do hope you realize that was a joke about our visitors looking for homework help <nerdanel_50> [6/1 @ 23:23] (1/1)

thanks for the link <Daughter of Nienna> [6/2 @ 13:35] (0/0)

Quick answers... <NZ Strider> [6/1 @ 12:50] (0/0)
One entrance, don't need lots of guards <Bythedar> [6/1 @ 10:20] (0/0)

Aragorn and athelas <Eärendil'sgirl> [6/1 @ 1:21] (3/5)

I always felt that the Morgul knife was the main difference <Larner> [6/1 @ 3:18] (0/0)
The Elessar is certainly relevant. <Kimi> [6/1 @ 2:07] (1/1)

The knife does make a difference. <Inferno> [6/1 @ 2:16] (0/0)

Morgul knife versus Morgul touch <Beren IV> [6/1 @ 1:56] (1/1)

Frodo's wound <Senta> [6/1 @ 18:01] (0/0)