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Giving & hoarding (stupidly long) <Penthe> [8/31 @ 23:18] (6/18)

What a wonderfully enriching post; Thank you! <Liath> [9/4 @ 19:41] (0/0)
thank you for connecting <Lúthien_Rising> [9/3 @ 14:26] (0/0)
Thanks everyone for helping me think! <Penthe> [9/2 @ 18:40] (1/2)

Eventually I'll get around to contributing <nerdanel_50> [9/2 @ 21:53] (1/1)

Red book, what an interesting question <Penthe> [9/2 @ 22:26] (0/0)

Giving of self too <drogo_drogo> [9/1 @ 16:44] (0/0)
A pragmatic explanation, but <Curious> [9/1 @ 6:20] (1/8)

Tolkien and property rights <Ransom> [9/1 @ 14:11] (1/7)

Tolkien despised enforced "sharing," <Curious> [9/1 @ 14:25] (2/6)

Agree almost totally - but, (OT) <Liath> [9/4 @ 19:04] (1/3)

Well, since Gollum <Curious> [9/5 @ 5:11] (1/2)

it's ancient rule of <Lúthien_Rising> [9/5 @ 12:17] (1/1)

Not quite. <Curious> [9/6 @ 5:16] (0/0)

Perhaps I misunderstood <Ransom> [9/1 @ 16:41] (1/1)

I'm not saying <Curious> [9/1 @ 16:56] (0/0)

I disagree. <Kimi> [8/31 @ 23:38] (2/2)

Wow indeed <Ascarwen> [9/2 @ 12:30] (0/0)
Wow, nice insight from Mr Kimi. <Ataahua> [9/1 @ 2:42] (0/0)

Silmarillion Ch 9 Flight of the Noldor <Galadriel1a> [8/31 @ 16:56] (4/30)

primordial chaos/Ge <Guriel> [9/2 @ 3:29] (0/0)
No honor among thieves. <erather> [8/31 @ 21:24] (0/0)
Ungoliant thinks harder <Kimi> [8/31 @ 20:31] (4/26)

Thanks for quoting that <drogo_drogo> [9/2 @ 16:14] (1/11)

Imagine a giant spider version of Carcharoth <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 16:49] (2/10)

The Light of the Trees already <Curious> [9/3 @ 4:55] (1/8)

Yes but the silmarils would burn her <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 6:56] (1/7)

I don't see <Curious> [9/3 @ 8:11] (1/6)

But the Silmarils burned Morgoth <Galadriel1a> [9/3 @ 8:32] (1/5)

Yavanna feared <Curious> [9/4 @ 5:06] (2/4)

And by the way the Balrogs whips <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 5:42] (0/0)
Do you mean that Ungoliat was mightier than Varda? <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 5:37] (1/2)

a little dilemma? <an seileachan> [9/4 @ 10:15] (1/1)

I think she would have sufferd but kept the Silmarils anyway (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/4 @ 11:21] (0/0)

*run away, run away* (No Text) <Penthe> [9/2 @ 22:27] (0/0)

Are you quoting from the text? <Curious> [9/2 @ 4:30] (1/10)

*Is nervous* <Kimi> [9/2 @ 4:42] (1/9)

Thanks, I completely missed <Curious> [9/2 @ 5:42] (2/8)

Freud, girl-monsters and boy-monsters <Penthe> [9/2 @ 22:36] (2/6)

The problem with Freudian <Curious> [9/3 @ 5:31] (1/4)

I think the thing with Freud is <Entmaiden> [9/3 @ 8:43] (1/3)

Yes, but <Curious> [9/3 @ 20:13] (2/2)

Yes, which livens the discussion, IMO <Entmaiden> [9/4 @ 12:02] (0/0)
Spot on, Curious <Penthe> [9/3 @ 23:16] (0/0)

When they're at odds, they're *really* at odds <Chip of Dale> [9/3 @ 0:29] (0/0)

Me too <Altaira> [9/2 @ 9:07] (0/0)

"the power that had gone out of him" <Altaira> [9/1 @ 23:46] (0/0)
Ophelia? (No Text - Link Inside) <erather> [8/31 @ 21:18] (1/1)

You win! (No Text - Image Inside) <Kimi> [8/31 @ 21:27] (0/0)

Melkor and Ungoliant breaks up <Galadriel1a> [8/31 @ 16:58] (0/0)

What scenes would you leave out for The Silmarillion movie? <JediFonger> [8/31 @ 14:26] (6/53)

so no ideas on what to left out? <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 22:07] (1/7)

I'd leave out the following: <NZ Strider> [9/2 @ 1:47] (1/6)

I'm starting to think otherwise. <Curious> [9/2 @ 5:46] (1/5)

Dull Valinor <Penthe> [9/2 @ 19:48] (1/4)

haven't read sil in a while but doesn't JRRT describe Valinor in detail? <JediFonger> [9/3 @ 10:40] (1/3)

No. <N.E. Brigand> [9/3 @ 17:46] (2/2)

Lack of physical description <Penthe> [9/4 @ 1:02] (0/0)
isn't book3 of HOME about lay of beleriand? (No Text) <JediFonger> [9/3 @ 23:34] (0/0)

How about a TV Mini Series <MUZIK22> [9/1 @ 12:09] (1/1)

i suppose that would be most 'economical' but <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 14:10] (0/0)

It is SO vast that you could make a movie about only one particular story <Finrod Felagund 5> [9/1 @ 0:04] (1/1)

ah that's why this post =). <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 10:56] (0/0)

all of them (No Text) <an seileachan> [8/31 @ 16:53] (0/0)
The first half, at least. <Curious> [8/31 @ 15:03] (2/21)

I still think an animated mini-series . . . <Pukel-man> [8/31 @ 20:28] (1/9)

Miniseries yes, animated no. <erather> [9/1 @ 0:13] (1/8)

Can you find me a landscape as beautiful as Valinor? <Pukel-man> [9/1 @ 1:55] (2/7)

Landscape in Spirited Away <Penthe> [9/2 @ 19:52] (1/1)

spirited away was an OK miyazaki work but the rest is even better... <JediFonger> [9/3 @ 17:06] (0/0)

Totally agree with you P-M <Ceorl> [9/1 @ 4:33] (1/4)

you guys are forgetting something... <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 10:41] (1/3)

I just think . . . <Pukel-man> [9/1 @ 11:17] (1/2)

it's all in the lighting =). that's how the elves are done in PJ's LOTR. (No Text) <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 11:37] (1/1)

Yeah, I remember Nuclear Galadriel. <Pukel-man> [9/1 @ 12:06] (0/0)

hmmm... <JediFonger> [8/31 @ 15:08] (1/10)

Morgoth and the Silmarils <Curious> [8/31 @ 15:13] (1/9)

well <CelebornsMirror> [8/31 @ 15:52] (1/8)

Right, flashbacks. (No Text) <Curious> [8/31 @ 15:54] (1/7)

hmmm... <JediFonger> [8/31 @ 17:07] (1/6)

i guess it depends on taste but <CelebornsMirror> [9/1 @ 9:19] (1/5)

easy <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 10:38] (1/4)

i think you misunderstood. <CelebornsMirror> [9/1 @ 13:42] (1/3)

i'm referring to the rules of screenwriting =). (No Text) <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 21:08] (1/2)

no offense but, <CelebornsMirror> [9/2 @ 9:11] (1/1)

was gonna but a lot me answers came with NT (No Text) <JediFonger> [9/2 @ 17:01] (0/0)

Pretty much all of it. <Gerontius> [8/31 @ 14:55] (1/17)

hmmm... <JediFonger> [8/31 @ 15:02] (1/16)

Would a story work without any men? <Curious> [8/31 @ 15:06] (1/15)

hmmm... <JediFonger> [8/31 @ 15:09] (1/14)

Not in the last half, he isn't. <Curious> [8/31 @ 15:17] (1/13)

hmmm... <JediFonger> [8/31 @ 17:06] (1/12)

Can you think of a movie <Curious> [8/31 @ 17:32] (1/11)

I think Sil Elves really *are* men . . . <Pukel-man> [8/31 @ 20:30] (1/10)

I'm just trying <Curious> [9/1 @ 6:25] (1/9)

easy <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 10:42] (1/8)

Many <Curious> [9/1 @ 10:57] (4/7)

The Lion King (No Text) <ShireRat77> [9/1 @ 14:23] (1/1)

True! (No Text) <Curious> [9/1 @ 14:43] (0/0)

Antz <Curious> [9/1 @ 11:59] (1/1)

In Antz... <Darkstone> [9/2 @ 15:56] (0/0)

Finding Nemo? (No Text) <Pukel-man> [9/1 @ 11:18] (1/1)

nemo had dentist+daughter. (No Text) <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 11:37] (0/0)

hence anthropomorphism. (No Text) <JediFonger> [9/1 @ 11:01] (0/0)

Silmarillion Ch 9 Flight of the Noldor Would it have made a difference <Galadriel1a> [8/31 @ 12:27] (3/5)

I have trouble with "what if" questions <Curious> [9/2 @ 4:17] (0/0)
Yes. <erather> [8/31 @ 20:50] (0/0)
Silmarillion Ch 9 Flight of the Noldor Would it have made a difference <ShinyElvenQueen> [8/31 @ 13:12] (1/2)

Welcome, ShinyElvenQueen! <N.E. Brigand> [8/31 @ 13:32] (1/1)

Frodo/Feanor similarity <ShinyElvenQueen> [8/31 @ 14:05] (0/0)

Silmarillion Ch 9 Flight of the Noldor.Fëanors despair <Galadriel1a> [8/31 @ 8:07] (3/6)

Why is "death" such a big deal? <Curious> [9/2 @ 4:12] (2/2)

The pain, the pain <Penthe> [9/2 @ 19:57] (0/0)
Miriel choose not to reincarnate (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 4:29] (0/0)

the effect of crime <lucia> [8/31 @ 21:35] (0/0)
Of Feanor and Turin <drogo_drogo> [8/31 @ 9:03] (1/1)

The slaying of Glaurung could be compared <Galadriel1a> [9/1 @ 8:04] (0/0)

Commuting from the Lonely Isle <Chip of Dale> [8/31 @ 7:50] (1/1)

Tol Eressea is part of the Elvenhome <PhantomS> [8/31 @ 10:21] (0/0)

Silmarillion Ch 9 Flight of the Noldor. Tears <Galadriel1a> [8/31 @ 5:47] (3/7)

professional Mourner <Guriel> [9/1 @ 1:10] (1/3)

Is there any panteon with a godess of <Galadriel1a> [9/2 @ 5:06] (1/2)

Don't know off the top of my head <Chip of Dale> [9/2 @ 9:34] (1/1)

amazing website! <Lúthien_Rising> [9/2 @ 21:18] (0/0)

The saddest song in the world. <Curious> [8/31 @ 10:16] (1/1)

Yes, something does survive <Galadriel1a> [9/1 @ 11:10] (0/0)

Hail Holy Queen <an seileachan> [8/31 @ 6:54] (0/0)

Smith of Wooton Major: Nokes Revisited <Altaira> [8/30 @ 23:50] (4/13)

Nokes wasn't Alf's apprentice <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/1 @ 12:06] (2/8)

"Nokes" <N.E. Brigand> [9/1 @ 16:41] (1/1)

thanks for the refresher <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/1 @ 18:40] (0/0)

this just in -- Nokes and Saruman <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/1 @ 13:24] (1/5)

Wow, I <Curious> [9/1 @ 13:48] (1/4)

I don't think we are meant to laugh <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/1 @ 14:32] (1/3)

You don't find Nokes amusing? <Curious> [9/1 @ 14:55] (1/2)

not today <Entwife Wandlimb> [9/1 @ 18:15] (1/1)

I don't <Altaira> [9/1 @ 23:32] (0/0)

Willful ignorance? <N.E. Brigand> [8/31 @ 18:37] (0/0)
Nokes is *also* Tolkien. <Curious> [8/31 @ 14:38] (1/1)

That's lovely Curious. <Penthe> [8/31 @ 19:59] (0/0)

A few quick thoughts... <NZ Strider> [8/31 @ 4:31] (0/0)

Silmarillion Ch9:Flight of the Noldor. Fëanors choice <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 17:52] (8/32)

The silmarils *are* like Fëanor’s children <Arevanye> [8/31 @ 6:31] (2/4)

Interesting, never thought of it that way (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [9/1 @ 7:14] (0/0)
but isn't this part of the problem? <Lúthien_Rising> [8/31 @ 20:17] (2/2)

It certainly is <Arevanye> [8/31 @ 21:03] (0/0)
And Feanor does sacrifice his children <Penthe> [8/31 @ 20:29] (0/0)

How would Yavanna feel if she were in Feanor's place? <Curious> [8/31 @ 4:59] (1/14)

answering with a question about fate <an seileachan> [8/31 @ 6:49] (1/13)

It's complicated. <Curious> [8/31 @ 9:08] (1/12)

yes, complicated :-) <an seileachan> [8/31 @ 17:10] (2/11)

a.s., here are my thoughts on the music and fate/free will <lucia> [8/31 @ 20:03] (1/2)

thank you, how lovely <an seileachan> [9/1 @ 7:00] (1/1)

Humans outside the music <lucia> [9/1 @ 13:50] (0/0)

That doesn't work for me. <Curious> [8/31 @ 17:35] (2/7)

Free will of the Elves <Stanislaus B.> [9/1 @ 2:36] (2/5)

stoicism in narrative terms <Lúthien_Rising> [9/1 @ 7:30] (0/0)
the probability wave <an seileachan> [9/1 @ 7:09] (1/3)

call me simple.. <lucia> [9/1 @ 14:12] (1/2)

what an excellent question <an seileachan> [9/1 @ 20:16] (1/1)

choice <lucia> [9/2 @ 10:38] (0/0)

perhaps <Lúthien_Rising> [8/31 @ 20:13] (0/0)

need for diplomacy <Guriel> [8/31 @ 2:09] (0/0)
Oh Feanor and his problems (this guy needs a shrink) <Lady Scaper> [8/30 @ 23:53] (0/0)
Hoarding, Elves and perfection <Penthe> [8/30 @ 23:24] (3/4)

Elves and Dwarves: more alike than either would like <Kili's aunt> [8/31 @ 10:55] (1/1)

Noldor and Dwarves were always close. <Curious> [8/31 @ 11:53] (0/0)

agree on silmarils! <Guriel> [8/31 @ 1:55] (0/0)
I like this. <Kimi> [8/30 @ 23:37] (0/0)

Feanor's moment in the in the Unlight <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/30 @ 22:52] (0/0)
Even the Valar need backups. <erather> [8/30 @ 20:31] (0/0)
oh, Feanor, Feanor <lucia> [8/30 @ 19:03] (1/2)

Very intersting comments in light of your footer <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/30 @ 19:18] (1/1)

Its not the footer's fault <lucia> [8/30 @ 21:50] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chaper 9 Flight of the Noldor;he killed them trees dead <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 14:30] (8/21)

It's tough being King of Arda <Tar-Telperien> [8/31 @ 1:44] (0/0)
changing bulbs <Guriel> [8/31 @ 1:34] (0/0)
Manwe <Altaira> [8/31 @ 0:19] (1/1)

Thanks for fleshing him out a bit. <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/31 @ 1:16] (0/0)

The golden age is over and twilight of the gods <drogo_drogo> [8/30 @ 19:19] (0/0)
Eru's plan <an seileachan> [8/30 @ 18:50] (0/0)
The End of Time (for a time) <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/30 @ 16:29] (1/1)

Your footer is a hoot :) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [8/30 @ 19:06] (0/0)

The light never completely dies; <Curious> [8/30 @ 16:04] (1/2)

"The Dream of the Rood" <N.E. Brigand> [8/30 @ 16:48] (1/1)

Here's a nice translation (No Text - Link Inside) <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/30 @ 17:01] (0/0)

Careful with the spell checker. <N.E. Brigand> [8/30 @ 15:00] (1/9)

I´m afraid you will have to live with it <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 15:07] (2/8)

Sorry. <N.E. Brigand> [8/30 @ 16:51] (1/1)

It´s okay, no problem (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 18:06] (0/0)

I strongly recommend <Curious> [8/30 @ 15:26] (1/5)

I'm guessing her spell-checker does not check for English spelling. (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/30 @ 15:30] (1/4)

Which is why <Curious> [8/30 @ 16:08] (1/3)

Remind me again <Altaira> [8/31 @ 0:20] (1/2)

It depends on the browser. <Kimi> [8/31 @ 4:11] (1/1)

Correct. And <Curious> [8/31 @ 8:56] (0/0)

Zen and the Art of Reading Tolkien <Ethelbert the Mildly Interesting> [8/30 @ 13:48] (3/4)

Hi, Ethelbert, welcome back (even if you're only visiting). <erather> [8/30 @ 19:33] (0/0)
I think you are preaching to the choir <lucia> [8/30 @ 14:31] (0/0)
Tolkien himself engaged in such analysis, <Curious> [8/30 @ 14:25] (1/1)

Just had to say <CelebornsMirror> [8/30 @ 15:19] (0/0)

Silmarillion Chapter 9 Flight of the Noldor <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 12:45] (5/5)

can anything stop us from talking? :-) <an seileachan> [8/30 @ 18:39] (0/0)
thank you for your encouragement (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 14:39] (0/0)
It's a great chapter, and 5 times the length <nerdanel_50> [8/30 @ 13:30] (0/0)
Thanks - I'm looking forward to this week <Entmaiden> [8/30 @ 13:26] (0/0)
Thanks, it'll be fun and don't worry... <drogo_drogo> [8/30 @ 12:47] (0/0)

Faramir as a child <bdtook418> [8/30 @ 12:23] (1/4)

I think this is only movie background. <erather> [8/30 @ 13:19] (2/3)

I always imagined that the line <PhantomS> [8/31 @ 10:23] (1/1)

I prefer that interpretation, too, <erather> [8/31 @ 15:36] (0/0)

Thank you <bdtook418> [8/30 @ 16:40] (0/0)

NDQ: The Sil: Back to Middle-earth <Lúthien_Rising> [8/29 @ 15:25] (2/6)

Silmaril & Phial of Galadriel <Finding Frodo> [8/30 @ 21:27] (1/2)

My understanding of it is that she captured the light in the water <Azree> [8/30 @ 21:53] (1/1)

thanks! <Finding Frodo> [8/31 @ 22:01] (0/0)

RIP Laurelin & Telperion. <erather> [8/29 @ 18:59] (2/2)

Kind of similar to Yggdrasil <MaidenOfTheShieldarm> [8/30 @ 15:22] (0/0)
I'm only familiar with Yggdrasil <Arevanye> [8/29 @ 19:11] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 7 or 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: Summary <nerdanel_50> [8/29 @ 13:44] (13/17)

My thanks too; though I was too busy to participate. (No Text) <NZ Strider> [8/30 @ 11:50] (0/0)
Thank you (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [8/30 @ 10:11] (0/0)
LOL <Chip of Dale> [8/30 @ 6:08] (0/0)
Thanks, I'm sorry I was gone. <Curious> [8/30 @ 3:53] (0/0)
I so enjoy your insights laced with humor <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/30 @ 0:41] (0/0)
Great discussion nerdanel! <erather> [8/29 @ 19:47] (0/0)
Thanks for your great work, Nerdanel. <Kimi> [8/29 @ 19:46] (0/0)
Thanks Nerdanel <Penthe> [8/29 @ 18:55] (0/0)
Thanks, nerdanel <Entmaiden> [8/29 @ 17:18] (0/0)
*is relieved* <Arevanye> [8/29 @ 16:31] (1/4)

Don't think that! <nerdanel_50> [8/29 @ 17:10] (1/3)

Well, <Arevanye> [8/29 @ 17:30] (1/2)

*makes eyes of extreme jealousy* <an seileachan> [8/29 @ 18:26] (1/1)

here's a number you can call for that... <Arevanye> [8/29 @ 18:31] (0/0)

Thanks for the discussion! (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [8/29 @ 15:52] (0/0)
Thanks, nerdanel, <Lúthien_Rising> [8/29 @ 15:36] (0/0)
Thanks for a stimulating week! (No Text) <lucia> [8/29 @ 14:24] (0/0)

On the Army of the Dead in *The Lord of the Rings* <NZ Strider> [8/29 @ 7:15] (6/8)

WWI's Army of the Dead <Darkstone> [9/1 @ 9:53] (0/0)
Fascinating. <jordan_the_discursive> [8/31 @ 10:08] (0/0)
Wonderful! <Kimi> [8/29 @ 19:43] (1/2)

Yes -- interestingly, <NZ Strider> [8/30 @ 3:15] (1/1)

That does sound fascinating. <Kimi> [8/31 @ 4:14] (0/0)

Gee, it's been an awfully quiet week <erather> [8/29 @ 18:38] (0/0)
I think you were AWL - Welcome Back! <Entmaiden> [8/29 @ 17:50] (0/0)
Thanks, Tolkien does like to reconstruct origins <drogo_drogo> [8/29 @ 11:51] (0/0)

History of the White Tree? <gandalf the hobbit> [8/28 @ 20:17] (3/5)

Finrod's pretty much answered it..a shorter version <PhantomS> [8/29 @ 14:57] (0/0)
To just be a little bit more in depth <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/29 @ 0:58] (1/1)

wow <hills> [8/29 @ 23:21] (0/0)

long... <hills> [8/28 @ 23:42] (1/1)

thanks <gandalf the hobbit> [8/29 @ 0:06] (0/0)

Smith of Wootton Major: Star envy? <Altaira> [8/27 @ 22:37] (4/5)

Some thoughts... <NZ Strider> [8/30 @ 3:12] (1/1)

Smith's line <Kimi> [8/30 @ 16:06] (0/0)

Smith's "Well, I'm back" <drogo_drogo> [8/29 @ 10:17] (0/0)
Time Envy <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/28 @ 10:32] (0/0)
Some thoughts <Kimi> [8/28 @ 0:34] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: Nearly Open Discussion <nerdanel_50> [8/27 @ 22:05] (6/17)

Paul Raymond Gregory's Melkor <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/30 @ 12:29] (1/2)

thank you, EW! <Lúthien_Rising> [8/30 @ 12:54] (1/1)

Yes! That and Bilbo's 111st Birthday <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/30 @ 13:29] (0/0)

Well, I'm back. <Curious> [8/29 @ 20:20] (3/4)

Welcome, and thanks <nerdanel_50> [8/29 @ 22:13] (0/0)
Welcome back, Curious! <Lúthien_Rising> [8/29 @ 21:31] (0/0)
Welcome back! <Penthe> [8/29 @ 20:58] (1/1)

Have you read "On Fairy-stories"? <Curious> [8/30 @ 3:47] (0/0)

LotR in light of the Silm. <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/28 @ 18:36] (3/3)

Tolkien put women on a pedestal. <Curious> [8/30 @ 8:53] (0/0)
good point, EW <lucia> [8/29 @ 14:22] (0/0)
no worries, Wanda, <nerdanel_50> [8/28 @ 19:51] (0/0)

and speaking of spiders, <nerdanel_50> [8/28 @ 12:10] (1/2)

He shouldn't have done that. <N.E. Brigand> [8/28 @ 16:51] (1/1)

You are right about that . . . <nerdanel_50> [8/28 @ 17:15] (0/0)

Much as I hate being an outsider :-) <an seileachan> [8/28 @ 7:26] (0/0)
I'm glad you concentrated on this topic <Lady Scaper> [8/28 @ 5:56] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: All over but the wailing <nerdanel_50> [8/27 @ 1:58] (4/7)

why everyone else is quiet <lucia> [8/29 @ 14:06] (0/0)
Tangible light and dark <Penthe> [8/27 @ 22:21] (2/2)

living light <sundering_c> [8/28 @ 16:06] (0/0)
I wonder if Varda's *hallowing* <Kimi> [8/27 @ 22:59] (0/0)

Quick note on the Teleri singing <drogo_drogo> [8/27 @ 15:53] (1/1)

Another thought on the Teleri <erather> [8/27 @ 18:59] (0/0)

The sea and darkness <Arevanye> [8/27 @ 6:17] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: Lights Out <nerdanel_50> [8/26 @ 12:55] (5/30)

Melkor's Mischief <Tar-Telperien> [8/28 @ 20:58] (0/0)
I think the understated text enhances the feeling of devastation <Entmaiden> [8/28 @ 19:43] (0/0)
I like Melkor to be afraid <an seileachan> [8/27 @ 5:32] (1/2)

But apart from Ungoliant and Shelob <nerdanel_50> [8/27 @ 12:59] (1/1)

not really, I was thinking <an seileachan> [8/27 @ 14:49] (0/0)

The Trees and the Garden <Chip of Dale> [8/27 @ 4:52] (1/3)

"Already thrown down..." <N.E. Brigand> [8/28 @ 16:54] (2/2)

and wouldn't Tolkien say <an seileachan> [8/29 @ 9:54] (0/0)
Dagor Dagorath <Chip of Dale> [8/28 @ 19:21] (0/0)

Why the earlier version is in the Silmarillion... <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/26 @ 15:12] (3/20)

Is Iluvatar's master plan really the Long Defeat? <lucia> [8/28 @ 18:50] (2/5)

walking by faith only <an seileachan> [8/29 @ 9:50] (0/0)
The legendarium of the Elves <Lúthien_Rising> [8/28 @ 19:08] (1/3)

I would agree <Entmaiden> [8/28 @ 19:29] (1/2)

Yes, I think JRRT saw nothing but defeat <nerdanel_50> [8/28 @ 20:29] (1/1)

The Great War <Chip of Dale> [8/28 @ 22:06] (0/0)

and not even that...BUT... (long) <dna> [8/26 @ 19:35] (2/12)

I can't go that far in playing the game <squire > [8/27 @ 9:06] (1/2)

Real world Tolkien <White Gull> [8/27 @ 15:21] (1/1)

He's on vacation this week <squire > [8/27 @ 16:03] (0/0)

Well; I have some issues with all this... <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/26 @ 21:40] (2/8)

If only it were that easy <Altaira> [8/27 @ 23:49] (0/0)
A dedicated lurker speaks! <BeruthielsKat> [8/27 @ 0:34] (4/6)

Amen (and welcome) <Altaira> [8/27 @ 23:58] (0/0)
Games writers play <drogo_drogo> [8/27 @ 7:26] (1/1)

You state so elegantly the... <Ascarwen> [8/27 @ 13:20] (0/0)

The Professor wrote a story... <an seileachan> [8/27 @ 5:28] (1/1)

Nicely stated! (No Text) <Arevanye> [8/27 @ 6:04] (0/0)

we play still by the game in which we're played. (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/27 @ 2:03] (0/0)

Excellent points on Sil history and progress <drogo_drogo> [8/26 @ 17:46] (0/0)

Tom Bombadil and The Witch King of Angmar <The Historian> [8/26 @ 0:24] (7/28)

Here is the link to that crack-pot theory, <Homer> [8/26 @ 22:45] (2/2)

predating the movies... :-) <an seileachan> [8/27 @ 10:55] (0/0)
Thanks! That link is hilarious! <Arevanye> [8/27 @ 6:26] (0/0)

WHAT? <The Black Captain > [8/26 @ 17:22] (0/0)
Eldest paradox <CelebornsMirror> [8/26 @ 9:21] (1/2)

That does make sense <Owlyross> [8/26 @ 10:15] (1/1)

Now that I 'thought' of it, <CelebornsMirror> [8/26 @ 11:22] (0/0)

Interesting theory about the Witch-king <dna> [8/26 @ 9:15] (1/2)

Wow... <Ascarwen> [8/26 @ 12:00] (1/1)

Good show! <Advising Elf> [9/2 @ 0:33] (0/0)

Pretty much anything on the internet <squire > [8/26 @ 6:49] (1/1)

You mean you don't believe everything... <Penthe> [8/26 @ 18:59] (0/0)

No, and a new Bombadil theory to put it all to rest <drogo_drogo> [8/26 @ 6:36] (5/11)

"To Serve Hobbits" (No Text) <Darkstone> [8/27 @ 15:59] (1/1)

LOL! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/27 @ 22:56] (0/0)

I read "Communion" <Arevanye> [8/26 @ 10:45] (1/3)

Communion, etc. still spooks me <drogo_drogo> [8/26 @ 10:55] (2/2)

yes, it scared the bejesus out of me, and now <an seileachan> [8/26 @ 17:06] (0/0)
I was a fan of the "X-files" too, <Arevanye> [8/26 @ 12:10] (0/0)

must be autobiographical <Lúthien_Rising> [8/26 @ 8:28] (1/1)

I *so* agree with you! <Penthe> [8/26 @ 18:55] (0/0)

It's all clear now <Entmaiden> [8/26 @ 8:00] (0/0)
the 1st T.B. theory that makes sense to me!!! (No Text) <an seileachan> [8/26 @ 6:41] (1/1)

Tommy Bombadil is always going to be a mystery <The Historian> [8/26 @ 14:08] (0/0)

Since Tolkien never said <Draupne> [8/26 @ 2:03] (2/3)

I beg to differ <Temujin> [8/26 @ 17:06] (0/0)
And clearly she has an aversion to water, <Ataahua> [8/26 @ 4:40] (1/1)

She's got black hair <Draupne> [8/26 @ 5:05] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: <nerdanel_50> [8/26 @ 0:10] (3/3)

Hey, I love the History Channel. <erather> [8/26 @ 22:04] (0/0)
banishment, etc. <dna> [8/26 @ 8:19] (0/0)
Banishment, obedience and cake <Penthe> [8/26 @ 0:40] (0/0)

one of those questions...:) <hills> [8/25 @ 20:45] (3/5)

Hmmm....have you <Silverlode> [8/26 @ 3:58] (1/1)

... <hills> [8/26 @ 10:25] (0/0)

can you narrow it down? <dna> [8/25 @ 23:11] (0/0)
A timely question <Altaira> [8/25 @ 23:11] (1/1)

i read this one <hills> [8/26 @ 10:24] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: Make'em Laugh <nerdanel_50> [8/25 @ 1:36] (5/6)

laughter isn't always the best medicine <gullygilly> [8/26 @ 4:38] (0/0)
Bride of Chaotica! <Chip of Dale> [8/25 @ 20:13] (0/0)
the sinister laugh <an seileachan> [8/25 @ 18:40] (1/1)

Laughter as protection and attack <Penthe> [8/26 @ 0:31] (0/0)

The sound of mustaches being twirled <squire > [8/25 @ 13:20] (0/0)
I know something you don't know <CelebornsMirror> [8/25 @ 11:43] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: Promise me anything <nerdanel_50> [8/25 @ 1:11] (4/6)

Oh what a tangled web we weave... <Altaira> [8/25 @ 23:51] (0/0)
Black holes and spider-man <drogo_drogo> [8/25 @ 13:20] (0/0)
Again, I feel that you are shining.... <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 11:42] (0/0)
Just a bad couple, them. <Chip of Dale> [8/25 @ 9:04] (2/2)

Just realized.... <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 11:45] (0/0)
Exactly! <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 11:44] (0/0)

Smith of Wootton Major: Anyone Know a Good Cure for a Star Hangover? <Altaira> [8/24 @ 22:10] (3/3)

Time heals all wounds. <erather> [8/26 @ 20:43] (0/0)
musings and other people's answers <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/25 @ 14:28] (0/0)
On Smith and star sickness <drogo_drogo> [8/25 @ 14:24] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: Of the Darkening of Valinor: Boy Meets Girl <nerdanel_50> [8/24 @ 0:56] (6/26)

More questions than answers... <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 11:39] (0/0)
well, she not only DEVOURS light <an seileachan> [8/24 @ 17:28] (2/7)

Here's a link you might have come across: <Chip of Dale> [8/24 @ 22:03] (1/1)

OT: more on tarantism <an seileachan> [8/25 @ 6:23] (0/0)

Yes, we need a spider-folklorist now! <Penthe> [8/24 @ 18:45] (1/4)

Brewer's is available online <Kimi> [8/24 @ 19:58] (3/3)

*looks ups "wiliness"* <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/24 @ 21:55] (0/0)
Do bees pollinate the flowers of Valinor? <Kimi> [8/24 @ 20:29] (0/0)
Of course it is, one useful reference <Penthe> [8/24 @ 20:11] (0/0)

Ungoliant as Melkor's posse <lucia> [8/24 @ 14:28] (0/0)
Melkor's lust <Ransom> [8/24 @ 10:52] (1/1)

I forgot <Ransom> [8/24 @ 10:55] (0/0)

shape of Dark Lord <hills> [8/24 @ 10:05] (0/0)
Ungoliant is the Bombadil of the Silmarillion <drogo_drogo> [8/24 @ 8:49] (3/12)

It would certainly liven up the story: <squire > [8/24 @ 13:54] (6/7)

Hah! Very good, Squire! <NZ Strider> [8/25 @ 17:00] (0/0)
Think of the cobbler's bill, though. (No Text) <Pukel-man> [8/25 @ 9:56] (0/0)
that was every bit as good as the original <an seileachan> [8/24 @ 17:14] (0/0)
Excellent, but is the Balrog Goldberry then? (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [8/24 @ 16:06] (1/1)

Could be! She is *hot* (No Text) <Ossë> [8/27 @ 13:53] (0/0)

So good it's weevil! (No Text) <Lúthien_Rising> [8/24 @ 14:52] (0/0)
I fear that you had a very strange childhood, squire. <Ataahua> [8/24 @ 14:42] (0/0)

I love the idea <nerdanel_50> [8/24 @ 13:09] (0/0)
--a sentence only a Tolkien fan could love-- <an seileachan> [8/24 @ 11:46] (2/2)

*bows to the uber-geekdom (No Text) <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 11:33] (0/0)
Hey dol! merry dol! I desire all the world for my belly! :-) (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [8/24 @ 11:53] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: The Darkening of Valinor: Come Into My Parlor <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 13:40] (8/31)

Tolkien on Ungoliant: primeval devourer <an seileachan> [8/25 @ 6:48] (1/1)

Seems to link to Galadriel1a's post <Chip of Dale> [8/25 @ 8:42] (0/0)

She seems to be a little bit of a Tiamat <Galadriel1a> [8/25 @ 3:04] (0/0)
Extending the metaphor of lust and darkness <Penthe> [8/24 @ 21:36] (0/0)
Spiders as metaphors for "fallen" women <Chip of Dale> [8/24 @ 1:08] (1/18)

agree but dont quite understand <lucia> [8/24 @ 14:09] (2/17)

Wow this is a really cool conversation <Lady Scaper> [8/25 @ 5:20] (0/0)
Lust, power, and mythical devouring mothers <Chip of Dale> [8/24 @ 20:56] (4/15)

OT? Lustig <Penthe> [8/26 @ 18:50] (0/0)
Response 2 (since I ran out of time) <lucia> [8/25 @ 14:40] (2/2)

In the Muslim world <Entmaiden> [8/26 @ 8:16] (0/0)
"It" vs "She"; and the exception to it all, Luthíen. <Chip of Dale> [8/25 @ 20:30] (0/0)

response part 1.. <lucia> [8/25 @ 14:25] (0/0)
Will you marry me? <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 11:32] (2/9)

One point: <CelebornsMirror> [8/26 @ 11:44] (2/6)

Yes, your point is very well taken.... <Ascarwen> [8/26 @ 11:56] (1/4)

interesting <CelebornsMirror> [8/26 @ 14:36] (1/3)

Not OT at all, this is Tolkien's little thing about women <squire > [8/26 @ 16:53] (2/2)

There's Galadriel's evil twin sister, <Kimi> [8/26 @ 21:57] (0/0)
A couple of quite separate thoughts <Lúthien_Rising> [8/26 @ 19:09] (0/0)

oh btw, i missed that this was kinda discussed by chip below, kudos to your post... (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [8/26 @ 11:45] (0/0)

Starting to get a bit off-topic, but... <Chip of Dale> [8/25 @ 12:43] (1/1)

I'll have to get back to you on the... <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 13:26] (0/0)

Ungoliant's echoes <Lúthien_Rising> [8/23 @ 20:59] (2/2)

Shelob <an seileachan> [8/24 @ 5:38] (0/0)
devouring spiders <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 23:31] (0/0)

Miss Muffet, Arachne and Isaiah <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/23 @ 18:38] (0/0)
Ungoliant's eating disorders <lucia> [8/23 @ 14:45] (1/1)

Ungoliant's self-esteem issues--LOL! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 21:37] (0/0)

It is interesting that Tolkien <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 13:56] (1/1)

Credibility and darkness <Goldilocks Took> [8/25 @ 8:19] (0/0)

Update on Tolkien conference <Entmaiden> [8/23 @ 8:56] (1/1)

thanks Entmaiden <drogo_drogo> [8/23 @ 9:16] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 8: The Darkening of Valinor: Did you ever see a Vala go this way and that way? <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 8:45] (4/13)

oops <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 14:16] (0/0)
*speaks from behind the couch* <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 13:49] (1/3)

Melkor's change of direction <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 14:26] (2/2)

A window into Tolkien's... <Ascarwen> [8/25 @ 9:50] (0/0)
It would make sense <Lúthien_Rising> [8/23 @ 20:42] (0/0)

Mind of evil unknown to the Valar <drogo_drogo> [8/23 @ 9:26] (1/3)

But in what sense is Melkor outside the mind of Eru? (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 13:19] (2/2)

Parts of Eru's mind and free will <drogo_drogo> [8/23 @ 13:51] (0/0)
Evil, malice, hatred? <Bythedar> [8/23 @ 13:31] (0/0)

Fallibility of the Valar <Bythedar> [8/23 @ 9:20] (2/3)

But what about the creation of Arda? <Lady Scaper> [8/25 @ 5:08] (0/0)
But <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 13:21] (1/1)

After looking up senescent..... <Bythedar> [8/23 @ 13:29] (0/0)

The Silmarillion Chapter 7: The Darkening of Valinor: Introduction <nerdanel_50> [8/22 @ 20:45] (5/9)

Looking forward to it immensely. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 13:45] (0/0)
Thanks Nerdanel <drogo_drogo> [8/23 @ 8:25] (1/1)

First week of semester here, too <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 15:17] (0/0)

looking forward to it! However, <Altaira> [8/22 @ 23:08] (1/3)

It is case sensitive-- <nerdanel_50> [8/22 @ 23:26] (1/2)

It's Mozilla <Altaira> [8/23 @ 8:37] (1/1)

The only thing on it is <nerdanel_50> [8/23 @ 8:40] (0/0)

wow, Nerdanel! <Lúthien_Rising> [8/22 @ 21:00] (0/0)
So, going for the evil fairy angle? Nice. (No Text) <Penthe> [8/22 @ 20:58] (0/0)

RR Takes a big breath! <CelebornsMirror> [8/22 @ 13:44] (10/16)

I've read LotR to my son 3 times <Wynnie> [8/26 @ 18:33] (0/0)
I tried to talk a friend into doing that <hatster> [8/24 @ 12:22] (1/1)

I tried.... <notlost> [8/24 @ 15:06] (0/0)

Yes..LOTR...three times... <Cirdan the Shipwright> [8/23 @ 9:39] (0/0)
Reading aloud lends cement <notlost> [8/22 @ 23:06] (2/2)

welcome back! <hatster> [8/24 @ 12:21] (0/0)
Welcome back! We've missed you <Entmaiden> [8/23 @ 8:19] (0/0)

I read The Hobbit to my wife's pregnant belly - <Azree> [8/22 @ 22:33] (0/0)
Yes! <Altaira> [8/22 @ 21:00] (1/1)

Very touching! <CelebornsMirror> [8/23 @ 9:16] (0/0)

To my daughters as my mother to me. <squire > [8/22 @ 20:10] (1/2)

Do you remember <Cirdan the Shipwright> [8/25 @ 9:17] (1/1)

No way, Jose! <squire > [8/25 @ 23:35] (0/0)

No, but I've been lucky enough to listen... <Penthe> [8/22 @ 18:13] (0/0)
As courting teenagers, Mr Kimi and I <Kimi> [8/22 @ 17:36] (0/0)
Took part in a marathon reading... <N.E. Brigand> [8/22 @ 15:35] (0/0)

NDQ: The Sil: From Valinor back to Middle-earth <Lúthien_Rising> [8/21 @ 10:12] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapters 6 & 7: Feanor and the Silmarils-"And to make a long story short--" "Too late!" "--one by one you all arrived." <Inferno> [8/20 @ 23:47] (17/21)

Thank you so much... <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 13:44] (0/0)
thank you <Galadriel1a> [8/23 @ 4:24] (1/3)

pssst, Galadriel1a... <Altaira> [8/23 @ 22:33] (1/2)

I would very much like to give it a try <Galadriel1a> [8/24 @ 17:59] (1/1)

Wonderful! (No Text) <Altaira> [8/24 @ 20:26] (0/0)

Thanks for making me reconsider Fëanor <Elen> [8/22 @ 7:57] (0/0)
Thanks, Inferno! <Altaira> [8/21 @ 23:38] (0/0)
You're *most* welcome! <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/21 @ 22:46] (0/0)
Thanks, Inferno and everyone <Entmaiden> [8/21 @ 21:08] (0/0)
Only with the hints... <N.E. Brigand> [8/21 @ 13:21] (0/0)
Thank you Inferno and everyone! <nerdanel_50> [8/21 @ 13:16] (0/0)
I have no clue... <squire > [8/21 @ 12:54] (0/0)
Thanks, and I'm collecting my points <Menelwyn> [8/21 @ 12:50] (0/0)
Thanks for this week, Inferno & all! <Lúthien_Rising> [8/21 @ 9:05] (0/0)
thanks from me, too <an seileachan> [8/21 @ 8:16] (0/0)
Thanks Inferno <drogo_drogo> [8/21 @ 8:10] (0/0)
Wonderful week, Inferno <Arevanye> [8/21 @ 6:57] (0/0)
Thanks Inferno <Penthe> [8/21 @ 4:03] (0/0)
Thanks, great job! I have no clue <Curious> [8/21 @ 2:31] (1/1)

there's a clue in your answer... <an seileachan> [8/21 @ 8:13] (0/0)

Thanks, Inferno, and everyone who joined in. <Kimi> [8/20 @ 23:57] (0/0)

Summary: discussion of Part 3 of Smith <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/20 @ 14:12] (9/12)

A late thought. <N.E. Brigand> [8/22 @ 16:26] (0/0)
Thanks, EW <Altaira> [8/22 @ 13:03] (0/0)
Thank you *all* <Lúthien_Rising> [8/21 @ 9:14] (0/0)
Nice! and psst E W: about our editions of ROTK <dernwyn> [8/20 @ 23:17] (1/2)

Mine says "You are not a winner" <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/21 @ 1:15] (1/1)

Oh, drat... <dernwyn> [8/21 @ 9:04] (0/0)

Lovely discussion, and brilliant summary <Penthe> [8/20 @ 22:27] (0/0)
What a magnificent job! <Kimi> [8/20 @ 18:40] (0/0)
Thanks for the discussion and questions <drogo_drogo> [8/20 @ 18:29] (0/0)
Great summary! <N.E. Brigand> [8/20 @ 15:37] (1/1)

Tim *is* Old Nokes' great-grandson <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/20 @ 16:12] (0/0)

Thank you -- love the footer too! <Curious> [8/20 @ 14:36] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapters 6&7: Feanor and the Silmarils-- Open Discussion <Inferno> [8/19 @ 23:17] (3/19)

Blessing of Varda & mortality <Penthe> [8/20 @ 23:34] (2/5)

I don't understand why <nerdanel_50> [8/21 @ 2:44] (1/1)

I pictured this more <Inferno> [8/21 @ 11:12] (0/0)

A good question. Perhaps it's <Kimi> [8/20 @ 23:46] (2/2)

So I guess there is no definitve reason why then <Lady Scaper> [8/21 @ 17:17] (0/0)
Too much life <Penthe> [8/21 @ 4:00] (0/0)

The Tragedy of the Noldor <dna> [8/20 @ 12:19] (0/0)
Where are the plumbers of Valinor? <Curious> [8/20 @ 6:31] (4/11)

Wow. I am going to focus on one thing... <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 12:28] (0/0)
Sorry, can't resist <Entmaiden> [8/20 @ 14:21] (0/0)
"House Elves" <drogo_drogo> [8/20 @ 13:13] (1/1)

LOL! This almost made me fall out of my chair! (No Text) <Mapalon> [8/20 @ 13:43] (0/0)

Tolkien was following a solid mythological tradition <squire > [8/20 @ 8:41] (1/6)

Except for the cities. <Curious> [8/20 @ 9:38] (2/5)

Yes, the city thing is anomalous <squire > [8/20 @ 11:10] (1/3)

The Golden Age is non-Christian, <Curious> [8/20 @ 11:26] (1/2)

Hope you find a little Paradise on your vacation! We'll miss you. (No Text) <squire > [8/20 @ 11:47] (1/1)

Thanks! <Curious> [8/20 @ 12:11] (0/0)

The Aeneid . . . <Pukel-man> [8/20 @ 9:48] (0/0)

OT: what's a good introductory book on Old English? <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/19 @ 13:32] (6/26)

The book you need is this one: <NZ Strider> [8/21 @ 17:31] (2/2)

Thank you! I'll check it out. (No Text) <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:42] (0/0)
Hint: listen to NZ Strider on these matters. <squire > [8/21 @ 22:46] (0/0)

I dove into Quenya with similar exuberance, and similar ignorance <Lottelita> [8/20 @ 17:10] (1/1)

Thanks --- I actually did learn a lot about grammar from a Quenya site <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:36] (0/0)

on-line introductions to Old English <Modtheow> [8/19 @ 22:05] (4/5)

Thank you! <Barahli of Rohan> [8/27 @ 13:39] (0/0)
These look great -- thanks! *bookmarks sites* (No Text) <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:26] (0/0)
That is so much fun! (No Text) <Penthe> [8/20 @ 23:27] (0/0)
It is very cool-sounding, <Lottelita> [8/20 @ 17:02] (1/1)

Thanks! I have a lot of info. now. :-) (No Text) <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:29] (0/0)

"The Wife of Bath?" <Liath> [8/19 @ 20:58] (1/4)

ME/OE <Lúthien_Rising> [8/19 @ 22:46] (1/3)

I agree <Lottelita> [8/20 @ 16:59] (1/2)

Chaucer is also lots of fun in its own right <Penthe> [8/20 @ 23:09] (1/1)

I agree that sounds fun <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:23] (0/0)

Suggestion <drogo_drogo> [8/19 @ 19:13] (2/4)

Thanks, I'll look for it. My library doesn't have that one. (No Text) <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:14] (0/0)
Here's a Beowulf translation <Arevanye> [8/19 @ 19:32] (1/2)

*bookmarks page* <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:18] (1/1)

no pesky overdue fines <Arevanye> [8/22 @ 15:38] (0/0)

Actually, probably LotR - and a question for OE experts... <Gerontius> [8/19 @ 17:51] (1/4)

I'm no OE expert... <N.E. Brigand> [8/20 @ 16:41] (3/3)

All really fascinating -- thanks! <Smeagirl/Girllum> [8/22 @ 12:10] (0/0)
Pure Gold! Thanks, Brigand. (No Text) <squire > [8/21 @ 22:50] (0/0)
kewl (No Text) <Gerontius> [8/21 @ 8:23] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of the Unchaining of Melkor-Repeating themes. <Inferno> [8/19 @ 12:58] (2/6)

Cycles of the "long defeat" <drogo_drogo> [8/20 @ 10:41] (0/0)
Really great questions! Noble or flawed? <Liath> [8/19 @ 17:55] (2/4)

Very good questions <Lady Scaper> [8/20 @ 16:20] (1/2)

one recommendation <an seileachan> [8/21 @ 7:59] (1/1)

Thanks (No Text) <Lady Scaper> [8/21 @ 17:02] (0/0)

& lost the italics there, sorry! <Liath> [8/19 @ 21:03] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 7: Of the Silmarils-Feanor and Fingolfin. <Inferno> [8/19 @ 12:58] (2/21)

The Relationship of Feanor and Fingolfin: Disected <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/20 @ 0:38] (2/14)

wrt Fingolfin's wife <dna> [8/20 @ 13:08] (1/5)

Although I'm a huge fan of the HoME series... <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/21 @ 2:09] (1/4)

Sil as 'canon' <dna> [8/21 @ 9:28] (2/3)

Hold it, hold it: it's a floor wax *and* a dessert topping! <squire > [8/21 @ 23:46] (1/1)

Thanks for that Squire <Penthe> [8/22 @ 18:32] (0/0)

Fantastic Post <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/21 @ 17:33] (0/0)

Thank you, Finrod. <Arevanye> [8/20 @ 8:06] (1/7)

if I may... <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/20 @ 18:08] (2/6)

Pride goeth... <Arevanye> [8/20 @ 21:53] (1/2)

I agree (and lovely footer!) (No Text) <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/21 @ 1:45] (1/1)

thanks! <Arevanye> [8/21 @ 6:36] (0/0)

Feanor/Mary Shelley parallels <dna> [8/20 @ 19:57] (2/2)

Let us not forget... <Mapalon> [8/22 @ 3:36] (0/0)
good point about his mother <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/21 @ 1:44] (0/0)

Bingo! <Penthe> [8/19 @ 18:34] (1/5)

What's a 'dobber'? <Arevanye> [8/19 @ 19:20] (1/4)

A dobber is someone who dobs :-) <Kimi> [8/20 @ 2:33] (1/3)

Thanks Kimi <Penthe> [8/20 @ 4:00] (2/2)

oh yes! <Arevanye> [8/20 @ 5:58] (0/0)
I think it's part of <Kimi> [8/20 @ 4:22] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 7: Of the Silmarils-Feanor's other works. <Inferno> [8/19 @ 12:57] (3/7)

Smith made no weapons; I wonder if <Kimi> [8/20 @ 4:34] (0/0)
Beauty in Tirion & Valinor <Penthe> [8/19 @ 18:29] (1/4)

Nerdanel was an artist <Kimi> [8/20 @ 4:19] (1/3)

Of Nerdanel: <nerdanel_50> [8/20 @ 13:06] (1/2)

From the source :-) <Kimi> [8/20 @ 18:13] (1/1)

Thanks guys, <Penthe> [8/20 @ 22:36] (0/0)

The Leonardo da Vinci of the Elves <drogo_drogo> [8/19 @ 13:27] (0/0)

Tolkien conference at Marquette this October <Entmaiden> [8/19 @ 8:35] (15/53)

No way could I afford it : ( <Liath> [8/22 @ 9:16] (3/3)

Thanks! <Liath> [8/22 @ 11:11] (0/0)
Go to the link at the bottom of Entmaiden's post <Altaira> [8/22 @ 9:52] (0/0)
published books <Lúthien_Rising> [8/22 @ 9:48] (0/0)

Can lurkers join in? <galadhremmin> [8/21 @ 21:26] (3/3)

Hey - when are u goin' <Nariel Singollo> [8/22 @ 12:50] (0/0)
hurray hurray! I am SO looking forward to this! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/21 @ 23:33] (0/0)
A Tolkien fan and an Austen fan <Entmaiden> [8/21 @ 22:16] (0/0)

You guys are going to have *so* much fun! <Kimi> [8/21 @ 2:49] (0/0)
Coming from Seattle... need help <Nariel Singollo> [8/20 @ 22:40] (1/5)

this is getting very exciting! <nerdanel_50> [8/20 @ 22:45] (1/4)

who, me? <Nariel Singollo> [8/20 @ 22:50] (1/3)

*makes note to pack empty suitcase for books!* (No Text) <an seileachan> [8/21 @ 6:27] (1/2)

I'm driving up with all my books in the trunk (No Text) <Entmaiden> [8/21 @ 13:24] (1/1)

Books, books, more books <Nariel Singollo> [8/21 @ 17:23] (0/0)

I'm coming too! <nerdanel_50> [8/20 @ 20:10] (2/2)

Cool! <tealbee> [8/21 @ 11:10] (0/0)
you know what? <Lúthien_Rising> [8/20 @ 21:51] (0/0)

Anyone en route? <dna> [8/20 @ 13:26] (0/0)
I'm in Manitowoc, WI; hoping to make it (No Text) <well he's back> [8/19 @ 22:19] (0/0)
Hope to go on Friday as it's my hometown! <tosaanne> [8/19 @ 21:03] (0/0)
looking forward to reports <Penthe> [8/19 @ 18:23] (0/0)
I'll try to go <Modtheow> [8/19 @ 13:50] (0/0)
I probably am going <drogo_drogo> [8/19 @ 12:53] (1/2)

Okay, I decided to do it <drogo_drogo> [8/20 @ 13:02] (1/1)

woo hoo! (No Text) <nerdanel_50> [8/20 @ 23:00] (0/0)

Thanks for posting this <Altaira> [8/19 @ 12:27] (1/6)

Ooh, ooh, Tom Shippey is hot! (No Text - Link Inside) <nerdanel_50> [8/20 @ 22:48] (2/5)

enough for the fangirl treatment? <Lúthien_Rising> [8/21 @ 12:13] (0/0)
grab your fotr -ee <Nariel Singollo> [8/20 @ 23:03] (1/3)

And he gives a GREAT lecture! <tealbee> [8/21 @ 11:31] (1/2)

I concur. <N.E. Brigand> [8/21 @ 17:07] (1/1)

not to mention brave! <Lúthien_Rising> [8/21 @ 18:15] (0/0)

do you think a non-scholar would fit in? <an seileachan> [8/19 @ 11:54] (3/15)

OK! I'm going, too! :-) <an seileachan> [8/19 @ 15:37] (1/5)

Entmaiden, Altaira and I are all <tealbee> [8/19 @ 17:32] (2/4)

one more room <Nariel Singollo> [8/20 @ 23:09] (0/0)
oh, that sounds like fun... <an seileachan> [8/19 @ 17:37] (2/2)

want to share the cost of a room? <nerdanel_50> [8/20 @ 20:33] (0/0)
Absolutely! I'll e-mail you the details (No Text) <Entmaiden> [8/19 @ 17:46] (0/0)

I'm not a scholar <Entmaiden> [8/19 @ 12:38] (1/1)

Ditto <Altaira> [8/19 @ 12:50] (0/0)

if you're worried about fitting in, <Lúthien_Rising> [8/19 @ 12:01] (1/6)

Shall we start a betting pool <Lottelita> [8/20 @ 17:37] (1/5)

I'll bring a camera <Entmaiden> [8/20 @ 18:55] (2/4)

how about... <an seileachan> [8/21 @ 6:43] (1/2)

Oh, yes. I thought about that this morning <Entmaiden> [8/21 @ 13:22] (1/1)

*signs a non-derison pact* (No Text) <an seileachan> [8/22 @ 3:38] (0/0)

*picturing the Galaxy Quest fan question moment* (No Text) <tealbee> [8/20 @ 19:23] (0/0)

Do these things get published afterwards? <squire > [8/19 @ 11:31] (1/2)

For a small fee <Entmaiden> [8/19 @ 12:38] (1/1)

pick me pick me. <Ascarwen> [8/19 @ 12:48] (0/0)

sounds exciting! <Lúthien_Rising> [8/19 @ 8:52] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Feanor and Melkor. <Inferno> [8/18 @ 11:56] (10/20)

It's about the fall <an seileachan> [8/20 @ 5:13] (0/0)
my thoughts in short... <missymoose> [8/19 @ 22:33] (1/4)

Welcome to you <Penthe> [8/19 @ 23:05] (1/3)

Not failures <Inferno> [8/19 @ 23:28] (2/2)

a quibble <an seileachan> [8/20 @ 4:59] (0/0)
Good distinction, Inferno <Penthe> [8/20 @ 0:15] (0/0)

a small point <gullygilly> [8/19 @ 11:49] (1/2)

psst, good to see you back here again (No Text) <drogo_drogo> [8/19 @ 12:55] (1/1)

thanks ;) (No Text) <gullygilly> [8/19 @ 19:45] (0/0)

Melkor only wants to posses , <Galadriel1a> [8/19 @ 7:28] (1/1)

sorry posted I posted the message too early <Galadriel1a> [8/19 @ 7:40] (0/0)

To my earlier note on this, I would add <squire > [8/19 @ 6:52] (1/3)

Capacity and potential, yes, but <Curious> [8/19 @ 8:20] (2/2)

One big pout <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 11:02] (0/0)
sub creation? <an seileachan> [8/19 @ 15:57] (0/0)

Feanor did create the Silmarils. <Curious> [8/19 @ 5:23] (0/0)
Melkor and Feanor: The Gifts and Curses of Intelligence <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/19 @ 2:21] (0/0)
destructive vs constructive <Penthe> [8/18 @ 23:14] (0/0)
Deceit of the Fair and Wise <Tar-Telperien> [8/18 @ 23:06] (0/0)
Interesting question <Menelwyn> [8/18 @ 19:02] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 7: Of the Silmarils-The Shadowing of the Trees. <Inferno> [8/18 @ 11:55] (4/12)

I think it is a metaphor (No Text) <Galadriel1a> [8/19 @ 7:42] (0/0)
The dimming of the light <Kimi> [8/19 @ 0:30] (2/2)

I agree, and I turn once again... <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 10:58] (0/0)
I like this <CelebornsMirror> [8/19 @ 9:55] (0/0)

shadows of evil <Lúthien_Rising> [8/18 @ 21:40] (0/0)
First-time reader question <Arevanye> [8/18 @ 13:03] (3/6)

My thoughts and a question <Aeliyana> [8/18 @ 13:38] (1/2)

A quick thought on breaking and entering: <squire > [8/18 @ 15:38] (1/1)

escape routes <Penthe> [8/18 @ 22:55] (0/0)

Morgoth's Ring has a partial answer <drogo_drogo> [8/18 @ 13:26] (0/0)
This is fine. <Inferno> [8/18 @ 13:09] (1/1)

'K. Thanks! (No Text) <Arevanye> [8/18 @ 14:36] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 7: Of the Silmarils-A description <Inferno> [8/18 @ 11:54] (4/12)

Blessing? <Lady Scaper> [8/19 @ 14:53] (1/1)

Blessing of Varda <Inferno> [8/19 @ 23:23] (0/0)

creating life, or just borrowing it <Penthe> [8/18 @ 22:51] (1/3)

a form of subcreation <Elen> [8/19 @ 3:46] (1/2)

Oh I agree, an amazing feat of art <Penthe> [8/19 @ 18:11] (1/1)

*standing ovation* <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 10:55] (0/0)

The Silmaril... <Chip of Dale> [8/18 @ 18:14] (1/3)

Don't forget the Star of Africa, <Curious> [8/19 @ 5:11] (1/2)

Never thought of that <Chip of Dale> [8/19 @ 5:45] (1/1)

There is also the Arkenstone <Curious> [8/19 @ 12:54] (0/0)

silme <hills> [8/18 @ 12:52] (1/1)

silme is starlight (No Text) <Ascarwen> [8/23 @ 10:56] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Snared in Melkor's Web <Inferno> [8/18 @ 0:00] (5/7)

Feanor Insecure? <Lady Scaper> [8/19 @ 14:42] (0/0)
Hatred and confusion <Penthe> [8/18 @ 22:32] (1/2)

Wow. I love this because it has exposed... <Ascarwen> [8/20 @ 13:42] (1/1)

Love your enemy <an seileachan> [8/21 @ 6:23] (0/0)

Of Feanor-Snared....... <missymoose> [8/18 @ 22:02] (0/0)
Fëanor must have spoken to Melkor <nerdanel_50> [8/18 @ 12:34] (0/0)
Feanor believed rumors <Curious> [8/18 @ 3:04] (0/0)

Smith of Wootton Major: Not an obvious choice <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/17 @ 23:59] (3/11)

Is Fairy in the West? <N.E. Brigand> [8/18 @ 15:59] (2/4)

Living on the margins <Penthe> [8/18 @ 22:28] (0/0)
Is Faery Valinor? <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/18 @ 16:45] (1/2)

Quibbling with MM. <N.E. Brigand> [8/18 @ 19:05] (1/1)

some old Nokes tries to figure it out <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/19 @ 11:37] (0/0)

Tolkien didn't know his father. <Curious> [8/18 @ 4:16] (2/4)

"the land of Daybreak" <N.E. Brigand> [8/18 @ 18:14] (1/1)

Good catch! (No Text) <Curious> [8/19 @ 3:24] (0/0)

It's a wise man who does <Kimi> [8/18 @ 5:05] (1/1)

Thanks for those details. <Curious> [8/18 @ 5:29] (0/0)

Some thoughts <Kimi> [8/18 @ 0:37] (0/0)

So what does everyone think of Aredhel? <Melesta> [8/17 @ 21:37] (4/5)

Not many women in Tolkien, but they're all interesting, <erather> [8/18 @ 18:54] (1/1)

"It was said that she was <Curious> [8/19 @ 11:35] (0/0)

An Elven diva if there ever was one <PhantomS> [8/18 @ 15:56] (0/0)
Not wholly innocent. <Curious> [8/18 @ 2:21] (0/0)
there's a little bit about her below (see link) <Lúthien_Rising> [8/17 @ 21:46] (0/0)

What about............. <IRANGER> [8/17 @ 16:16] (3/3)

calendar <Entwife Wandlimb> [8/17 @ 20:10] (0/0)
All the time. <erather> [8/17 @ 18:34] (0/0)
Yes we do. <Curious> [8/17 @ 16:22] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Hero or villain? (long) <Inferno> [8/17 @ 10:08] (14/40)

"needless baggage on the road" <an seileachan> [8/19 @ 6:55] (0/0)
Fëanor’s just this guy, you know? (long) <Kimi> [8/19 @ 1:57] (0/0)
Feanor may be a hero, but he is also a villain. <Gerontius> [8/18 @ 16:35] (1/6)

Invoking Godwin's Law. ;) <Inferno> [8/18 @ 23:29] (3/5)

About Hercules, <Curious> [8/19 @ 3:44] (0/0)
Yes. And Hercules was punished for his villainy... <Gerontius> [8/19 @ 1:46] (0/0)
Invoking the "Inappropriate Use of Godwin's Law" response: <Kimi> [8/19 @ 0:07] (1/2)

Hence the winky. <Inferno> [8/19 @ 0:13] (1/1)

Isn't that a house-elf <Kimi> [8/19 @ 0:32] (0/0)

A quote which may explain why some respect Feanor: <Curious> [8/18 @ 5:37] (0/0)
Fëanor the villain <Atlas> [8/18 @ 2:28] (2/7)

He doesn't fit the definition fully... <Aeliyana> [8/18 @ 11:22] (1/1)

He abandons his principles, though <Curious> [8/18 @ 11:31] (0/0)

Interesting, but I disagree <Inferno> [8/18 @ 10:50] (2/4)

It's the Kinslaying. <Atlas> [8/19 @ 0:49] (1/1)

Hercules <Inferno> [8/19 @ 13:05] (0/0)

His altercation with Fingolfin is <Curious> [8/18 @ 11:17] (1/1)

Delving into the reasons for his <Ascarwen> [8/19 @ 12:18] (0/0)

another vote for tragic hero <Menelwyn> [8/17 @ 19:39] (0/0)
what heroic deed? <an seileachan> [8/17 @ 19:02] (0/0)
A handful of quotations and thoughts on heroes (LONG) <Lúthien_Rising> [8/17 @ 12:51] (2/9)

Would you consider Gollum for antihero? <squire > [8/17 @ 14:22] (2/7)

Gollum the Taxi Driver.."You talkin' to me, precious?" <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 16:08] (1/2)

link, oops (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 16:09] (1/1)

Interesting list (OT). <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 18:01] (0/0)

Gollum's archetype <Inferno> [8/17 @ 14:25] (2/3)

I don't know; he's not so <Ascarwen> [8/19 @ 12:46] (0/0)
"Antihero: <Curious> [8/17 @ 14:49] (1/1)

And yet <Lottelita> [8/18 @ 15:41] (0/0)

Antiheroes often appear in comedies. <Curious> [8/17 @ 13:10] (0/0)

Tragic hero <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 12:08] (0/0)
Tragic hero and Melkor's dupe. <Curious> [8/17 @ 11:58] (0/0)
I don't know <Lady Scaper> [8/17 @ 11:28] (0/0)
Well, when you put it that way... <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 10:53] (1/1)

Isn't it interesting how <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 11:48] (0/0)

No flames here... <Celandine Brandybuck> [8/17 @ 10:38] (1/3)

Yes, Feanor is cuts his own Gordian knot <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 12:16] (1/2)

psst, drogo <Lúthien_Rising> [8/17 @ 12:53] (1/1)

From here, with a little help from Photoshop (No Text - Link Inside) <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 13:35] (0/0)

I don't think Feanor is an anti-hero. <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 10:26] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of the Unchaining of Melkor <Inferno> [8/17 @ 10:07] (2/7)

if one chooses good or evil, one can comprehend <an seileachan> [8/17 @ 18:03] (1/2)

But that was before he went mad. <Curious> [8/18 @ 8:13] (1/1)

OK, good point (No Text) <an seileachan> [8/18 @ 11:27] (0/0)

Does Manwe buy it? Or like Frodo <Curious> [8/17 @ 11:37] (2/3)

But it does specifically say... <irpacynot> [8/22 @ 11:26] (0/0)
If so, <Lúthien_Rising> [8/17 @ 12:26] (1/1)

In Morgoth's Ring, <Curious> [8/17 @ 12:41] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-The Line of Indis <Inferno> [8/17 @ 10:06] (3/4)

Hmm, no Fingolfin or Finarfin... the doomsday scenario <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 16:39] (1/1)

To quote Gandalf, and agree with every one else so far, <Kili's aunt> [8/17 @ 21:03] (0/0)

More speculation time. <Curious> [8/17 @ 14:37] (0/0)
I think it's significant that... <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 14:05] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Miriel's Death <Inferno> [8/17 @ 0:35] (1/11)

Miriel's death is unique. <Curious> [8/17 @ 4:23] (2/10)

i agree w/curious <hills> [8/17 @ 9:00] (0/0)
her death would lead to trouble, or? <an seileachan> [8/17 @ 5:53] (1/8)

not quite suicide <eowynthegreat> [8/17 @ 8:41] (2/7)

Agree, parallel with Tolkien's mother?? <Elen> [8/18 @ 3:52] (1/1)

Good point! <Curious> [8/18 @ 6:18] (0/0)

Tolkien referred to it as suicide <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 10:21] (2/4)

Wasn't that later, though? <Cressida> [8/20 @ 0:14] (1/1)

honestly, I don't remember. <Ascarwen> [8/20 @ 10:51] (0/0)

And yet the Valar did not blame <Curious> [8/17 @ 11:09] (1/1)

suicide... <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 11:44] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 7: The Silmarils-Formenos <Inferno> [8/16 @ 13:06] (3/7)

OK, speculation time. <Curious> [8/17 @ 4:10] (1/1)

Your description (with which I agree) implies <nerdanel_50> [8/18 @ 12:43] (0/0)

Formenos <Penthe> [8/16 @ 18:50] (0/0)
12 "Years." <N.E. Brigand> [8/16 @ 13:41] (1/3)

I realize this <Inferno> [8/16 @ 13:46] (1/2)

The usual Sil problem? <N.E. Brigand> [8/16 @ 14:11] (1/1)

Yes, it would. <Ascarwen> [8/20 @ 10:53] (0/0)

trapped in Isengard - left to starve?? <Isengard Unveiled> [8/16 @ 12:41] (4/8)

Yes, I believe so; short rations, certainly <Liath> [8/19 @ 17:01] (2/2)

and again <Isengard Unveiled> [8/20 @ 9:36] (0/0)
re: the Quality of Mercy <Isengard Unveiled> [8/20 @ 9:31] (0/0)

re: Trapped <Isengard Unveiled> [8/16 @ 16:09] (1/2)

Of Saruman and the Prison of Orthanc <The Black Captain > [8/17 @ 4:38] (1/1)

And Frodo tries... <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 10:25] (0/0)

Not all flooded <PhantomS> [8/16 @ 14:48] (0/0)
Orthanc's a big building. <N.E. Brigand> [8/16 @ 13:35] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Occupation: Main Character <Inferno> [8/16 @ 11:24] (6/38)

Tolkien's fascination with artists <squire > [8/17 @ 9:37] (2/6)

No, you can´t be serious Fëanor a nazi??? <Galadriel1a> [8/19 @ 14:46] (0/0)
Lovely, but Aule does have disciples; <Curious> [8/17 @ 10:38] (1/4)

Rarely focuses, indeed. <squire > [8/17 @ 15:05] (2/3)

To merge threads.... <Ransom> [8/17 @ 18:09] (1/1)

Ooo...cross-textual commentary! (No Text) <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 18:32] (0/0)

Aule and Morgoth <Curious> [8/17 @ 15:29] (0/0)

Whether hero or not, Feanor is the Focal Point of Everything... <Finrod Felagund 5> [8/17 @ 1:50] (1/1)

I agree that Melkor and Feanor are <Curious> [8/17 @ 4:33] (0/0)

There is no hero. <Ascarwen> [8/16 @ 13:54] (0/0)
Morgoth is even more influential. <Curious> [8/16 @ 13:30] (2/11)

Feanor as Alexander the Great in histories <drogo_drogo> [8/16 @ 18:03] (1/3)

Well, as I said, Morgoth <Curious> [8/17 @ 3:49] (1/2)

Morgoth as the antagonist <drogo_drogo> [8/17 @ 6:21] (1/1)

You can't have it both ways. <Curious> [8/17 @ 7:37] (0/0)

The question of point of view <Ascarwen> [8/16 @ 13:56] (1/6)

Except <Inferno> [8/16 @ 14:25] (3/5)

I have to say that I agree <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 8:49] (0/0)
Sure doesn't sound like Bilbo. <N.E. Brigand> [8/16 @ 15:44] (2/2)

Read Unfinished Tales. <Curious> [8/17 @ 7:52] (0/0)
I like that part where Feanor's servant <squire > [8/16 @ 17:00] (0/0)

a translator is not necessarily the narrator <Modtheow> [8/16 @ 15:44] (0/0)

Finwe awoke at Cuivienen? <N.E. Brigand> [8/16 @ 13:29] (0/0)
Feanor as the catalyst in the fight agaisnt the darkness <drogo_drogo> [8/16 @ 11:47] (2/14)

Enemies that are not evil <Penthe> [8/16 @ 18:44] (2/12)

*falls over laughing* <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 10:12] (1/2)

Yes, but... <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 10:58] (1/1)

well, of course...it's really fun to... <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 11:37] (0/0)

In your footer, <Curious> [8/17 @ 8:30] (2/8)

definitions <Penthe> [8/17 @ 20:26] (1/2)

Well then, Bilbo and Frodo <Curious> [8/18 @ 10:39] (1/1)

Middle-class fantasies <Penthe> [8/18 @ 22:13] (0/0)

Me too <squire > [8/17 @ 9:57] (2/4)

Ah, it's a joke? <Curious> [8/17 @ 10:44] (0/0)
Er? <N.E. Brigand> [8/17 @ 10:16] (2/2)

footers <Penthe> [8/18 @ 23:08] (0/0)
Oops. Right, Penthe's footer. (No Text) <squire > [8/17 @ 10:23] (0/0)

Yes, certainly, writing <Ascarwen> [8/16 @ 13:58] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Title Characters <Inferno> [8/16 @ 11:24] (6/28)

Without Fëanor it would become uninteresting. <Elen> [8/17 @ 7:05] (1/16)

We *do* relate to Feanor, and <Curious> [8/17 @ 7:48] (3/15)

Don't relate... <CelebornsMirror> [8/17 @ 14:47] (1/4)

Tom Wolfe's The Right Stuff, <Curious> [8/17 @ 15:09] (1/3)

just so <squire > [8/17 @ 16:24] (1/2)

Here's a quote <Curious> [8/17 @ 16:51] (1/1)

*is impressed ... very impressed* (No Text) <CelebornsMirror> [8/17 @ 17:03] (0/0)

I disagree. The entire tale... <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 9:28] (1/4)

But not liars and murderers, <Curious> [8/17 @ 10:50] (1/3)

Well, once you allow for <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 11:40] (1/2)

Not so. <Curious> [8/17 @ 12:07] (1/1)

Okay; you've convinced me! (No Text) <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 12:27] (0/0)

Fëanor's human side <Lúthien_Rising> [8/17 @ 8:19] (2/4)

Well, I know this is getting ahead <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 9:29] (0/0)
I've never understood that quote. <Curious> [8/17 @ 8:45] (2/2)

To me, it simply means that <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 10:00] (0/0)
do you sleep, Curious? <Lúthien_Rising> [8/17 @ 9:13] (0/0)

Heros, anti-heros and, um, main characters <Penthe> [8/16 @ 18:38] (2/2)

*standing ovation* (No Text) <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 10:01] (0/0)
Feanor would be in the lab after hours. <Curious> [8/17 @ 4:41] (0/0)

Feänor: A-type personality. <Orm Irian> [8/16 @ 16:19] (4/4)

Ack. He's my boss. <Orm Irian> [8/17 @ 1:58] (0/0)
Business? No way. <erather> [8/16 @ 21:31] (0/0)
Sounds a bit like <Arevanye> [8/16 @ 18:12] (0/0)
Businessman? Perish the thought! <Curious> [8/16 @ 16:38] (0/0)

A towering figure... <Ascarwen> [8/16 @ 13:50] (0/0)
There is no one hero of The Sil. <Curious> [8/16 @ 12:47] (0/0)
In the story of the Silmarils, Feanor gets the ball rolling <drogo_drogo> [8/16 @ 12:00] (0/0)

The Silmarillion, Chapter 6: Of Feanor-Minor characters <Inferno> [8/16 @ 11:23] (7/23)

Miriel had a premonition about her son <an seileachan> [8/17 @ 4:08] (1/2)

I love your cartoon! <Kili's aunt> [8/17 @ 21:14] (1/1)

sure! I blatantly copied it <an seileachan> [8/18 @ 6:16] (0/0)

First trouble in paradise <Elen> [8/17 @ 2:35] (0/0)
When Finwë remarried... <Aeliyana> [8/17 @ 0:17] (1/2)

The cause and effect here <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 9:24] (1/1)

Feanor is the only motherless Elf <Kimi> [8/17 @ 18:43] (0/0)

Fëanor idolized his mother, <nerdanel_50> [8/16 @ 23:52] (1/6)

It's so interesting to me that you... <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 9:26] (1/5)

It may or may not be my idea of gender . . . <nerdanel_50> [8/17 @ 14:07] (2/4)

One can certainly see a strong... <Ascarwen> [8/19 @ 12:16] (0/0)
What about Galadriel? <Inferno> [8/17 @ 14:31] (2/2)

She does but she's no Fëanor. <nerdanel_50> [8/17 @ 18:45] (0/0)
And Nerwen <Kimi> [8/17 @ 18:41] (0/0)

The problem with having two elder sons <Modtheow> [8/16 @ 15:00] (2/3)

I noticed that <Lúthien_Rising> [8/16 @ 18:30] (0/0)
politics and psychology <Penthe> [8/16 @ 18:27] (1/1)

oooo, yeah. (No Text) <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 9:27] (0/0)

I think Feanor, to use a little... <Ascarwen> [8/16 @ 13:46] (1/2)

about ages <Menelwyn> [8/16 @ 19:39] (1/1)

Hee hee <Ascarwen> [8/17 @ 9:21] (0/0)

High testosterone. <Curious> [8/16 @ 12:38] (1/1)

Finwe's passion for Feanor <Lúthien_Rising> [8/16 @ 18:08] (0/0)